Making offer-thoughts October 19, 2016, 08:14:45 pm We have found a 97 LD with 113,000 that has passed our hired RV inspection. It is priced $1,500 below suggested price listed here. The seller stated he lowered it due to the CB is broken and the knock sensor is not working. Our inspector said it is just the sensor and no other issues.However, it does not have a generator. How I am just now finding this out, I guess shows that I assumed some things would be standard. The RV is out of state and it is the inspector who told me. Considering it is priced $1,500 below the suggested asking price listed here do you think it is fair to offer even less considering there is no generater? As this is our first RV purchase I am in need of advice. Thank you in advance.
Re: Making offer-thoughts Reply #1 – October 19, 2016, 08:21:40 pm Depends. Is a generator import to you? To me it is a neutral feature. No generator, great. We don't use one and appreciate the extra storage and weight capacity. If we had one that was in good running order we would not remove it. It is really a personal preference. If I had needs to be sure to have AC always available then a different story. 1 Likes
Re: Making offer-thoughts Reply #2 – October 19, 2016, 08:36:32 pm We hope to full time in it and do some boondicking. As I am getting older I have hot flashes so AC is important to me. It does have 2 - 85 watt solar panels. So to be honest I don't know if I need a generator.
Re: Making offer-thoughts Reply #3 – October 19, 2016, 08:44:47 pm While we are still in an early LD learning curve, we've spent 125 nights on the road this last year. I'd say that 25-30 days were dry camping. We have not used the generator once, except to exercise it once every 4-6 weeks. Now, if we had traveled to places with high temperatures and wanted to dry camp, I suppose we'd run the generator. So far, our travel plans have been to travel to cool places in the heat and warm places in the cold. So as Paul has suggested, if you need AC and you plan to dry camp, then it sounds like you might miss a generator. Hope this helps a bit. 1 Likes
Re: Making offer-thoughts Reply #4 – October 19, 2016, 08:54:21 pm Thank you. So even if I don't need it do you think it's fair to assume the price should be lower since it doesn't have one?
Re: Making offer-thoughts Reply #5 – October 19, 2016, 09:04:03 pm "We hope to full time in it and do some boondocking. As I am getting older I have hot flashes so AC is important to me."170 watts of solar panels would be very useful, but they won't be able to run your air conditioner. To add enough panels and batteries to run an air conditioner even for a short period would cost you more than you'll pay for a used RV in your budget range. For practical purposes, it's just not feasible.That means if you're dry-camping and you need air conditioning, you'll need a generator.You could buy a separate generator, such as Honda's popular EU2000i. Drawbacks are that it's easily stolen, and you need to find a place to store it and its gasoline supply.It is possible to add a built-in generator to a Lazy Daze that doesn't have one. It'll cost you a couple thousand dollars (in round numbers), and is not a do-it-yourself job. It wouldn't be my first choice, but if you have found a rig that seems really well suited in all respects except for that one omission, it is a possibility. Personally, if a generator were important to me, I'd look for a rig with a generator already built in.Alternatives are to 1) stay in campgrounds with electric power (commercial RV parks or state/national parks), or 2) head north and/or to higher altitudes. I dry-camp almost exclusively, and even though I do have a generator and an air conditioner, I almost never used them. They're noisy and make it hard to sleep. Instead, I move around with the seasons to keep my surroundings comfortable... and I use a variety of small 12 VDC fans to keep cool when a hot spell hits. 2 Likes
Re: Making offer-thoughts Reply #6 – October 19, 2016, 09:22:04 pm Quote from: H20lovingchick - October 19, 2016, 08:54:21 pmThank you. So even if I don't need it do you think it's fair to assume the price should be lower since it doesn't have one?This is just my opinion, which is worth about as much as the paper it's written on. Nevertheless, you and the seller are engaging in the beginning of a LD financial transaction. The price (value) from the buyer's point of view might be based on how close the LD matches up with your wish list, the quality of maintenance and service records and the results of the inspection. Suppose the results of the inspection reflects a need for $3-$4,000 in repairs or services, then this information gives the buyer bargaining chips. If on the other hand, this is a turn-key LD that smells like roses, then this gives the seller bargaining chips. So once you have identified all your bargaining chips, to include that generator, then spend some time thinking about an initial offer (price). If this was my situation and I found that the ONLY item of concern was the generator, then I would be prepared to make an offer after I had fully inspected the LD for myself. In my experience, most sellers are prepared to accept an offer and perhaps counter offer. Hope this helps and best of luck on this next phase of your LD adventure. 1 Likes
Re: Making offer-thoughts Reply #7 – October 19, 2016, 11:25:15 pm I placed an offer 10% below asking. They accepted. In 10 days I will be a Lazy Daze owner! 7 Likes
Re: Making offer-thoughts Reply #8 – October 20, 2016, 12:32:58 pm Hi Melissa...I travel solo, w/my Dobergal, Junah, in a 1998 30ft. IB, and have been semi full timing [like 6-9mo. out of the year]. Mostly in the hotter summer months.I do have the old Emerald gennie, and it is quite a bit louder than the Micro. That said, I also have three 100 watt solar panels. I do consume elec. by using the TV, DVR, my laptop, etc., and the two fantastic overhead fans.While during the sunny summer days, that is more than sufficient solar power for all things, except the AC and the microwave, [which I do use on a regular basis] I find that the gennie is an indispensable item to have for just those days it is too hot to not have AC. This past summer, it was hard to find places along the way to my various destinations that didn't require some heat relief. And I exclusively boondock. I can't afford RV parks except rarely to fill fresh water, do laundry, flush tanks, etc That's generally once every month and a half.I've camped with a few other rigs who didn't have a gennie, and they handled it just fine--they are set up for not having one and their useage is predicated along that line. However, several have traded in their rigs for ones that DO have a gennie eventually, for the reasons I posted above.A gennie is insurance that if you need that power, you have access to it, instead of having to plan around NOT having that choice. Me, I love the freedom that having solar AND a gennie gives me to go where ever I want to go, regardless of available sun power, or weather control. As Joan says, YMMV! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gini Free and Junah, canine xtrodinaire "CHERRYOTTE" our litte red home on wheels "Growing old is mandatory. Growing wise is optional." 1 Likes
Re: Making offer-thoughts Reply #9 – October 21, 2016, 12:31:57 pm Hi Melissa. Congratulations on your' new to you' Lazy Daze. I have a '99 TK 23.5 and after 16 years I finally hit 100 hours on the generator, so I changed the oil (just kidding). I usually end up in full hookup campgrounds with electric, or in nice quiet campgrounds where I try to avoid running my generator. I try to avoid hot places. When I am traveling through hot places and I need to stop for a break, that's when I run the generator. Noisy, just off the highway types where a running generator wouldn't be noticed much. For my previous (SOBrand) motorhome, I added a used 2.8 KW Onan Microlite. It was just enough for a 13.5K A/C that I added also. (I didn't have a Microwave). It was a lot of work because it wasn't set up to ever have one. The person I sold it to still uses the genset and has had no problem with it. You didn't say which floor plan your new coach was, but in '97 it might have been prepared to have a generator. At least an empty space where it would have been. Adding a generator isn't a monumental pain, but could be expensive. In the meantime you'll have time to find out if you really can get along without it. Hope this helped. RonB
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