CAMP or GLAMP July 31, 2016, 08:53:43 pm Hi Folks,Now this is an interesting topic and our views on the matter may differ, but here goes.Do LD and RV'ers in general Camp or Glamp? I have a coworker who insists that RV'ers Glamp. I disagree that we Glamp in as much as being outside among the wildness of nature and sitting beneath the stars next to a "campfire" is the essence of camping at its most premitive level.I've check Wikapedia and their definition of Glamping speaks not of RV but about lavish luxury in a tenting environment. On other inner web sites there are definite distinctions made between "roughing it" camping and "RV Glamping".I've backpacked and camped all my life and I don't think I have ever Glamped a day in my life. Or have I? Any thoughts on this "huge" controversy?Kent
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #1 – July 31, 2016, 09:30:35 pm The ultimate answer:Glamping: How to Camp in Luxury - SunsetVirtual hugs,JudieQuoteDo LD and RV'ers in general Camp or Glamp? I have a coworker who insists that RV'ers Glamp.QuoteI've check Wikapedia and their definition of Glamping speaks not of RV but about lavish luxury in a tenting environment.On other inner web sites there are definite distinctions made between "roughing it" camping and "RV Glamping".
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #2 – July 31, 2016, 11:29:24 pm I think people who have those retro trailers and pull them with retro cars are into "glamping." Me? Not so much as I sometimes dry camp en-route to a destination at a casino or Wal*Mart...
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #3 – August 01, 2016, 02:26:57 am Fun topic! Maybe some self examination would help:Do all your lawn chairs match?Do you eschew picnic tables for one you bring along?Do you put a flower vase on your outdoor table?How cute are the lights you use to light up camp?Is the decor of your RV period correct? Can your decor scheme be labeled?Are you fastidious about changing your outfit at least twice a day?Are your plaid flannel shirts pressed?Do you wear new Redwing boots?Do you setup your camp like a TV commercial set?There are other test questions I am sure. Help me out here...But don't be fooled, even backpackers glamp when they plan gourmet meals and carry coffee grinders espresso equipment. (Yes, that's a thing. I speak from personal experience )
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #4 – August 01, 2016, 09:21:33 am Compared to most tenters, I suppose we are glampers. We have a comfy bed and bath, can stand up to get dressed and have enough power to use all of our electronic toys. And yes, we do have a coffee grinder. Also an electric griddle for pancakes, a electric skillet for making spaghetti sauce, rice cooker, electric mixer, electric percolator, and a blender.All that 120v stuff and we mostly dry camp.Our chairs have never matched, we have no flower vases, we have both 12v and solar rope lights, but they have not been out much. We do have a solar spot light that I sometimes remember to put out to illuminate the passenger side to discourage mischief makers.Our decor is 2007 Lazy Daze. I do try to change pants once a week, t-shirts as required. I wear Crocs most days. We may be glampers, but we are not concrete campers, the ones that use the easy-off easy-on parks.Your turn.
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #5 – August 01, 2016, 10:31:10 am Basic, basic.The only stuff we carry that requires electricity are two phones, two iPads and one GPS all operating on 12v. I suspect I could count using just fingers and toes, the number of campsites we have stayed in that have had electricity over the last few years. We go to great lengths to avoid commercial campgrounds; that's sort of a challenge we make for ourselves as we travel. I will take the state park site next to the dumpster over a Jelly Stone/KOA anytime. Appliances?A stove top coffee percolator that's so old the smoke stains from campfires will never come off the sides and bottom. A hand operated wisk to mix things up.For me, the fewer things that can break, the better. Years ago we visited an Amish hardware store in PA. The vast majority of household appliances and doodads they sold did not require electricity to operate. A very interesting place to poke around. Ed
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #6 – August 01, 2016, 11:06:37 am When we were backpackers, we camped.When we got into sea kayaks and found we could travel the backcountry with over a hundred pounds of gear each, we glamped.Parking your LD, way out in the desert or mountains, is camping.Parking your 40' DP, in a RV resort, is clamping. If they offer bar service, it is deluxe glamping.Enjoying a virgin screwdriver...the drink that is.Larry 2 Likes
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #7 – August 01, 2016, 11:27:50 am We are more in line with the posts from Don Malpas and Ed D. We carry two (2) chairs that don't match and an outdoor mat which are our total outside "stuff." We have an electric fry pan that we use outside to keep heat and such outside. When it's cool, I really like to cook over a fire to include bake potatoes and corn on the cob ... ain't very good however. We search for COE and State Park CGs as our preferred places ... staying at commercial "spots" in lieu of Walmart and truck stops.On the other hand, we've seen tent campers with AC units, beds, tents larger than our LD, and outdoor kitchens to rival any large RV. Some of those campers have more lights strung around their campsite than on our SB home at Christmas time. It's kind of fun to watch these kind of campers unload and organize their campsite with chairs, hammocks, bikes, scooters, and on and on. As you know, their setup process can be an all day event!So at the end of the day, DW and I traveling in our LD feel like we are in the lap of luxury. We actually don't feel like we're camping as we did when we slept on the ground. So I guess we're in the Glamp Camp, which is a new word for me.
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #8 – August 01, 2016, 12:11:19 pm There is a thing up in our neck of the woods called "Blue tarp campers". It is from an insurance company commercial, and perfectly captures camping in the Pacific Northwest. The setting is a relentless rain, with campers standing under a dripping blue tarp in front of a smokey fire trying to cook hot dogs.It's a lifestyle statement out on the peninsula, where I hunted for years. In November, the rainiest month. Where annual rainfall is 99.54 inches. Blue tarps are everywhere! I've spent many nights under blue tarps. How many here are blue tarp campers?
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #9 – August 01, 2016, 01:25:25 pm When we are home, we are not camping. When we stay at our mountain cabin, we are not camping. When we stay in a variety of locations in the small, mobile room that is otherwise parked in our driveway, we are not camping, whether at Walmart, in front of a friend's house, in a remote wilderness site, or at a formal campground. When we used to backpack, we carried everything with us, mostly on our backs, and that WAS camping. When we pitched a tent and spread the contents of our vehicle all over the extended campsite, that was camping too, I suppose.The definition of camping is whatever YOU want it to mean, and I won't embroil myself in the Glamping issue.Steve
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #10 – August 01, 2016, 02:31:14 pm Quote from: Steve - August 01, 2016, 01:25:25 pmWhen we are home, we are not camping. When we stay at our mountain cabin, we are not camping. When we stay in a variety of locations in the small, mobile room that is otherwise parked in our driveway, we are not camping, whether at Walmart, in front of a friend's house, in a remote wilderness site, or at a formal campground. When we used to backpack, we carried everything with us, mostly on our backs, and that WAS camping. When we pitched a tent and spread the contents of our vehicle all over the extended campsite, that was camping too, I suppose.The definition of camping is whatever YOU want it to mean, and I won't embroil myself in the Glamping issue.StevePerfectly stated, Steve.Chris
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #11 – August 01, 2016, 06:59:01 pm Quote from: Steve - August 01, 2016, 01:25:25 pm"The definition of camping is whatever YOU want it to mean..."SteveExactly right. When I was a "Yout", so much younger than I am now, I backpacked every year for a week or two at a time. I wasn't camping. "Camping Out" was something that my Father would take us to do-Unload the car, pitch a tent and cook on a open fire. No RV...just the old "Yogi" ice box and some bacon and eggs. Reminds me of an old skateboard I once (do) had (have). It started out in pieces that I assembled piece by piece. Board, trucks, wheels-skateboard. I eventually ditched the board and put the trucks and wheels on a new, stiffer board. Same skateboard, just improved. Eventually the trucks and later the wheels were changed-same skateboard.This is how I feel about camping. Same "fire" just improved a bit. Pigeon hole me-I think not. Label who I am...ok fine.I'm a camper. Just new and improved.It's all good. Just sayin'Kent 1 Likes
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #12 – August 01, 2016, 07:24:57 pm My father, who started camping (backpacking in Boy Scouts) near Philadelphia in the mid 1930's, told me that when he was young folks would say they would go to camp, meaning a cabin in the country. When people told him that switching from a tent to the 62 F250 around 1970 that was sort of a class C was not camping. He would reply that to many people camping was trading a city's hustle and bustle for the quiet solitude and fresh air of a wild place. He would say that by that definition that he was still camping, but instead of using a camp cabin on a bit of property, like those simple folks the Roosevelt's and the Rockefeller's, his camp cabin was far superior because it was not limited to a single place. He was a bit of a joker, so I am sort of sure that Teddy or John D. would not have been willing to trade cabins had they been alive. John (still camping) DaCrema07 green MB called "DaVee" 1 Likes
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #13 – August 02, 2016, 02:14:18 pm Before I got my Lazy Daze I spent 7 years living on motorcycles and traveling the world.Most of that was on a BMW R1100GS, which is not a cheap bike to begin with. I put a lot of effort into making it as comfortable as possible for the long years ahead. I had a lot ofvery pricey backpacker gear as it was light, compact and pretty rugged. Very little clothing and al that was easy to pack and clean. I had a roll up solar panel to charge my laptop, GPS and mp3 player.Every once in awhile I would go to moto rally. These were not your typical Harley, Sturgis type thing butwith people like me that had been to many places on their bikes. It was fascinating to see just how everyone outfitted their bike to do what they wanted to do. I was considered pretty hardcore as I was the only one with solar, this was back in 2000 and 2001. I was glamping it pretty good back then. considering.Now, I live in luxury with my LD. I bought my first pair of jeans in 7 years, have more clothes than I know what to do with.More pairs of shoes, more, more, more. I also try hard to maintain a less is better lifestyle, but it is hard when you have so much space to use. I'm still glamping these days, just differently. I think we should all aspire to glamp, why wouldn't you want to as comfortable as possible?
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #14 – August 02, 2016, 02:35:05 pm I guess it is all a mater of perspective. For backpackers on the east coast hammocks have started replacing tents because of weight. From my daughter I learned about how far they had come as compared to the Army Jungle hammocks of my youth in the 1960s. I was surprised to learn that some now came with forced air cooling systems.
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #15 – August 02, 2016, 05:22:44 pm As a young pup I loved throwing a few light things in a backpack to head off into the wilderness. When I 'joined' (remember the draft) the military a 'group' of us would throw a few things (weight wasn't the top of their consideration) to spend a night or two in the country side enjoying the locals welcomeing parties. When I rotated by to 'normal' life I married. A job allowed us to own a car, tents, and all sort of comfy camping equipment. At retirement with kids out of college we could afford a Lazy Daze. Today I have no love for being uncomfortable on our camping trips. I like have a cold brew, ice cream and a hot well cooked meal with company of someone I love. Sooooo is it camping or glamping I don't care. It's my money and time. 2 Likes
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #16 – August 02, 2016, 06:40:27 pm Like many my age I dodged the draft... I joined the Air Force. Better room service. I even got to go backpacking (as a college student would, not like other enlisted guys in the other services) in the jungle survival area while stationed in the PI at Clark. I did a lot of backpacking when I got out and went to college. Gamping was sneaking a expresso maker in my friends backpack. Hay he started it with with a pint in a glass bottle in my pack. Now with no knees left to speak of I really enjoy the Lazy Daze and make no excuses about enjoying the wilder spaces - if not the wilderness - in my Lazy Daze.John
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #17 – August 02, 2016, 07:25:08 pm Twenty some years ago with my DW, young daughter and 10 good friends, we would "clamp" (?) all around California.Yosemite, Sequoia, Kings Canyon, Big Sur...we would set up "camp" and rest and relaxate till the cows came home. Even had a surprise birthday party once with all the trimmings.Eventually we sold our TT and our little class C and settled into city life. No camping, no glamping, no clamping...We were hotel folk then. Bed & Breakfasts, white water rafting, kayaking Wooden Cabins (with a bath) in Curry Village (that's right...CURRY VILLAGE) any way we could get to the great outdoors be it ocean front, river view or tall pines. No RV, no tent, no backpack...just surrounded by peace and serenity. Fresh air and wide eyes taking it all in. My daughter and I are avid fans of Yosemite. For about a decade, we made our yearly pilgrimage (sometimes twice a year) to the Valley. With my "camping" list in hand, I would pack everything into the SUV bag after bag of "essential" items and off we'd go. For a week, each visit, we wandered, hiked, and took it all in from every angle. The most important thing here is that we get out there and enjoy life one breath at a time...one trip at a time and share where we have been with others to encourage them to do the same. I always come back with my phone packed with videos and images of where I have traveled. I live to and love to share my outdoor experiences. This thread reminds me of how much we at LDO have in common. Thank you for sharing. With that here are a few of my favorite shots I have taken over the past few years. Enjoy.Kent 2 Likes
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #18 – August 02, 2016, 09:28:13 pm Maybe the sentiment of Greg Brown's Eugene is what some of you have experienced?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwmcz1BY89g 2 Likes
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #19 – August 03, 2016, 02:37:47 am Quote from: paul banbury - August 01, 2016, 12:11:19 pmThere is a thing up in our neck of the woods called "Blue tarp campers". It is from an insurance company commercial, and perfectly captures camping in the Pacific Northwest. The setting is a relentless rain, with campers standing under a dripping blue tarp in front of a smokey fire trying to cook hot dogs.It's a lifestyle statement out on the peninsula, where I hunted for years. In November, the rainiest month. Where annual rainfall is 99.54 inches. Blue tarps are everywhere! I've spent many nights under blue tarps. How many here are blue tarp campers? I must admit we have Blue Tarp Camped in the Olympic peninsula many times in the rainy season and not so rainy season but still raining. Our greatest achievement (most use of Blue Tarps) was on the shore of Lake Crescent 10 years ago where we used over 12 tarps to cover three camp sites, tables and fire rings for about twenty five people around 15 being children. We cooked, ate, slept in tents and read or told stories around the fire rings and yes some times it was not raining but most of the time it did. Karen~Liam 98 - 26.5 MB
Re: CAMP or GLAMP Reply #20 – August 03, 2016, 11:59:21 am Quote from: G Plam - August 02, 2016, 05:22:44 pmAs a young pup I loved throwing a few light things in a backpack to head off into the wilderness. When I 'joined' (remember the draft) the military a 'group' of us would throw a few things (weight wasn't the top of their consideration) to spend a night or two in the country side enjoying the locals welcomeing parties. When I rotated by to 'normal' life I married. A job allowed us to own a car, tents, and all sort of comfy camping equipment. At retirement with kids out of college we could afford a Lazy Daze. Today I have no love for being uncomfortable on our camping trips. I like have a cold brew, ice cream and a hot well cooked meal with company of someone I love. Sooooo is it camping or glamping I don't care. It's my money and time.Glen, thanks for posting a photo of your passenger side Coolaroo in use. Obviously, that installation worked well and no worries about wind gust damage to a $1600 awning.Chris
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