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Blow Out Hose
Yahoo Message Number: 156140
I'm trying to find a picture of the Blow Out Hose (or fitting) used to connect to the water supply line at the water pump for winterizing.  Google hasn't helped me so I'm back here with my hat in my hand asking for help.  As always, thanks in advance.

Ed & Margee Fort Worth

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 156141
Just asking a question on winterizing in Ft. Worth, TX, i.e., is it necessary? Overnight temperatures in Ft. Worth may dip below freezing, but doesn't the temperature climb during the day to above, sometimes well above, 32 degrees? I don't live there, but climate charts for the region seems to suggest that November-February temperatures don't consistently remain at or below freezing.

Here in the south Bay Area of CA, we often get many successive nights of below freezing overnight temperatures, but because it "warms" up during the day, there's no need to winterize.

I can definitely see the need to winterize the rig in many parts of the country, but I was surprised at the need to do the procedure in Ft. Worth. ???

Joan
2003 TK has a new home

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 156143
I'm a fan of the anti-freeze method (see my file in Maintenance section). When I originally researched winterizing options back in '12, I decided against the blow out method because it doesn't guarantee that all water gets blown out of the system (esp pump) and also the high air pressure could disrupt the plumbing connections. If you must winterize, I vote in favor of having a "bypass kit" installed and using the antifreeze method. It's quick, easy, and reliable. (Cost about $10/season for 3 bottles of anti-freeze).
 Quick Turn By-Pass Kit 
Todd
Todd (and Steve)
'17 Winnebago Minnie Winnie and '13 Honda CRV
(Former '99 RB owners from 2012-2016)

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 156147
I bought my blowout hose at the Mothership. Perhaps they do still sell them. I'd be happy to text or email you a photo of it if you wish. Let me know off forum.

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 156148
Hello Joan.

Temperatures in the Dallas Fort Worth area have reached the teens and stayed below freezing for several days.  Some of my neighbors have experienced frozen plumbing for example.  Last year, we may have had snow and ice 4-6 times.  So it get cold enough to be worrisome.  Too much of a risk for me.

Ed & Margee Fort Worth

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 156149
"Temperatures in the Dallas Fort Worth area have reached the teens and stayed below freezing for several days".

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Well, since that's the case, I agree that winterizing is definitely advisable! ;-)  Good to know the real scoop.

Joan
2003 TK has a new home

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 156151
my LD is at home and I will try to take a picture of the hose tomorrow.  Taking the picture is not the hard part. Remembering to do it is the hard part.
I am a fan of the blow out method.  Once the fresh water system is dry and before I hook the pump back into the system I pump antifreeze into the pump via the filter ( I will take a picture of that setup too. Someone bug me if the pictures do not come up in a reasonable amount of time).
(Assumes empty holding tanks) ... Disconnect the pump.
... Blow the system per the manual.
... Disconnect the filter bowl and empty any water still in the bowl.
... Place a shop towel next to the output side of the water pump .... Run the pump dry (a few seconds).
...  Fill the filter unit with antifreeze ... Re-attach the filter to the fresh water system ... Lift the filter assembly in such a way the antifreeze flows down to the pump.
... refill filter bowl and repeat as necessary until line takes no more antifreeze (or cheat and hook up a hose to the antifreeze container) ... Run the pump until bright pink antifreeze comes out on a fresh shop towel.
... re attach the output side of the pump to the fresh water system.
... (optional step.  If you have a hose connected to the filter run more antifreeze into the line) ... pour antifreeze into the traps.  Be liberal.  It is not bad to have some in the holding tanks ... pour antifreeze into the toilet bowl.  Flush so some is in the black tank.
... pour antifreeze into the toilet bowl for storage.

I use a little over a gallon.  I could use less but I put a fare amount in the lines and in the holding tanks.  If I go camping in cold weather (like on the way to Florida) I just use bottled water for drinking and flush toilet with antifreeze.
I live in northern VA.  Temperatures hover around freezing most of the winter but it is not uncommon for us to have a week or two of highs below 20 degrees (Potomac river freezes over, the people from GA think the world is coming to an end, the folks from AZ have fled; and all the New York refugees, aka dearly beloved, laugh).
John
Currently: 2008 36' Tiffin Open Road
Previously: 2007 Mid Bath


Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 156154
Hello etdcaw.  That pictures looks like a blow out hose that might be used at the city water connection?  Is that correct?  I'm looking for a picture of a blow out hose to use with the "disconnected water supply line at the pump location."  (quote from LD manual).  I'm thinking it must be just a regular air hose fitting like the small male fitting in your picture which attaches to a compressor hose and inserts into the water supply line.

Ed & Margee Fort Worth

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #9
Yahoo Message Number: 156156
Ed, No the system does not hook to city water.  It hooks to the fresh water line that was disconnected from the water pump.
There are fittings that will hook to the city water line but I don't think those are not as good. It would seem that the water between the pump and the place where the city water and on board water would not be blown out.  The factory system takes care of that issue if you follow the procedure in the manual.

My pictures to include the fill line that goes to the filter unit.

https://dac.smugmug.com/Cars/Individual-cars/Lazy-Daze-improvements-gadgets/Winterizing-stuff/
Currently: 2008 36' Tiffin Open Road
Previously: 2007 Mid Bath

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #10
Yahoo Message Number: 156158
This hose connects to the water pump discharge line.
It may fit the fresh waster inlet as well. I didn't try. When I winterized recently, I removed the line attached to the pump discharge side then attached the blow-out line to the fitting on the that line.

Ed

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #11
Yahoo Message Number: 156159
I forgot to add that the big end screws into the freshwater line.  The little end goes into the air hose chuck.
Sorry.  I need to learn how to proof read.
By the way the whole process takes about a hour if you go slow.  Of course the first time you do it you will take a lot longer but once you've done it a few times it takes no time at all.
John
Currently: 2008 36' Tiffin Open Road
Previously: 2007 Mid Bath

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #12
Yahoo Message Number: 156160
It's like John said.
After you remove the discharge line from the pump, you will be left with a female fitting on the water line. That female fitting screws onto the corresponding male fitting on the blow-out line.

Ed

Re: Blow Out Hose
Reply #13
Yahoo Message Number: 156161
Hello johndacrema.  Thank you for taking the time to make those clarifications, which now makes sense to me. You been very helpful.  I suppose I'll check with LD on Monday and see about ordering that piece, which I haven't seen around here. Btw, I learned a few years ago that my eyes proof read well enough, it's my fingers that misbehave.

Take care.

Ed & Margee Fort Worth


 
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Reply #15
Yahoo Message Number: 156163
Ed and Not Margee, Do you have an owners manual? It is important to do the procedure as described.  You do not want use to much air pressure.  Also there is a "touch" to bleeding the water out of the lines.  I missed the part in the manual that said to open the faucet just a little the first time I did the process.   I had to keep going back and doing it over because while some water would come out the force of the air quickly overcomes the water and the water some water just goes to the bottom of the fresh water system.  That required me to do the process all over a few times more than necessary.
Even following the book I let everything rest a bit (NASA would call it a system hold or some such phrase) and then blow the lines according to the book again.  I repeat until there is no water puddeling in the lines.
Currently: 2008 36' Tiffin Open Road
Previously: 2007 Mid Bath