Re: Security of toad... Reply #25 – April 29, 2015, 07:27:31 pm Yahoo Message Number: 152491"Another advantage to towing a Fiat 500 besides weight (2500lbs) is the steering wheel does not lock and no key is needed in the ignition."Some cars today use the chip in the key for security and do not lock the steering column. New Jeep Wranglers do not need a key for towingWith more and more cars coming with keyless ignition, the locking column problems will continue. My wife's Forester has keyless ignition and it's steering column lock is electric, setting automatically when the ignition is turned of and unlocking when the ignition button is pushed. There is a key-type door lock but just an ignition button and nothing resembling a key lock. If it had a manual transmission, it would be towable except for the steering column lock.It is getting more difficult every year to find suitable toads. The automatic CRV was a favorite toad, with its great interior space and high ground clearance. Honda's switch to the CVT transmission has left a empty hole in that class of toad.Larry
Re: Security of toad... Reply #26 – April 29, 2015, 09:30:50 pm Yahoo Message Number: 152492I hope the new generation of Fiats is better built and more reliable than the old ones. Many years ago (in my Coast Guard days) I owned an 850 Fiat Spyder. The car was fun to drive and it gave me lots of excuses for being late to my duty station. It broke down at least once a week. My CO eventually assigned me a Government Vehicle to commute to the base and back. I don't know what they did to my poor Fiat. Maybe used it as an anchor for the 378' high endurance cutters.I'll stick with my old Jeep Cherokee Toad. No complications towing or locking.Bob
Re: Security of toad... Reply #27 – April 30, 2015, 03:17:46 am Yahoo Message Number: 152498Bob,I use to poo poo Fiats because they looked so small. I went with my friend to check them out as she wanted to buy one. I have to say the Fiat is an awesome ride. When you get in it it does not feel small and it rides like a sports car.. Very, very awesome car and gets GREAT gas milage. If you get a chance, take one for a spin. She's owned her Fiat since Nov. 2012, no problems what so ever..JO
Re: Security of toad... Reply #28 – April 30, 2015, 11:28:58 am Yahoo Message Number: 152499Jo, That is good news. I hope her experience pours over into some of the new Jeep models which are built by Fiat. I usually love all things Italian Ducati Motorcycles, the food, fashion, etc. I wonder if the new Alfa Romeo's could be flat towed. Now that would be in my eyes an awesome Toad.bobmoore14
Re: Security of toad... Reply #29 – April 30, 2015, 09:28:31 pm Yahoo Message Number: 152512Thanks to all responses! I got my key blank today, and took it to the Honda dealer to have it cut. When I tried to start the car with it using every possible position of the real transponder key, it was no-go. I always got the 'green key of death' symbol. However, my blank was described as a 'transponder' key, even though it had no buttons, so thinking battling transponders, I carefully pried apart the casing. Inside there was a small chip against the key shaft, which I indelicately removed. Snapping the case back together, I retried the experiment, and this time it worked! For me, the position which worked was inserting the fake key with the 'H' symbol facing away. I then placed the 'H' symbol of the true key against the blank key, at right angles, and turned to 'on'. Once the green key winks out, I take away the true key and start the engine So, I do this, run through the pre-tow procedure, then turn back to accessory. If the key is then turned back on, the green key reappears.Steve
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