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Towing receiver hitch problems
Yahoo Message Number: 148451
On our travels this summer, I meet a metal fabricator who works for the company that does LDs steel work, such as frame stretching and roll bars. He told me that there have been problems with the bolts that hold on the towing receiver loosening and/or snapping off.
In more severe cases, the bumper itself can be bent and even break apart. I have seen this myself on a few LDs.  Art's (older fossil) LD  bumper ripped apart from towing his Jeep. The bumper required major surgery and reinforcement.

The receiver is secured to the bumper with four bolts, the front two being 3/4" diameter vs. the forward ones that are a smaller 1/2" diameter.
The problem is mostly seen on rigs that use hitch adaptor that raise the attachment point for the type of towbars that stay on the RV.
Example http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Roadmaster/RM-048-6.html The fabricator said the receivers are designed to resist down-forces but not for heavy up-forces, On the receiver, when the adaptor is used to raise the hitch, a lot of leverage is applied to the smaller rear bolts under hard braking.

What to do? First, make sure the existing attachment hardware is in good shape and torqued to SAE specs.
Our LD's receiver came with grade-5 bolts. They can be upgraded to grade-8 hardware.
The rear 1/2" bolts can be replaced with 3/4", after the holes are enlarged.
1/4" steel backing plates can be made to help spread the load over more of the bumper.
If any distortion, bending or cracking is noticed in the rear bumper, get to a trailer-hitch shop and have it repaired and upgraded before towing.
If you tow a heavy vehicle and use a hitch adaptor, that raises the attachment point, consider reinforcing things before damage can occur.
Also consider upgrading the bumper attachment hardware too. We almost lost our rear bumper several years ago when the stock hardware failed, while towing the Jeep..
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/sets/72157605167526411/show

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 148452
Are there any particular years that this problem appears on? This has me scared as I tow my Jeep on rough roads all the time. I know my hitch has been beefed up but not sure how much. Guess I'll crawl underneath and have a look.

Bob 01 23.5 TK  with toys in tow

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 148482
Larry, do you have pictures if the hitch reinforcement that is explained in the LD Companion? In particular, I'm trying to picture the doubler that you mention. I tow an 85 CJ-7 using an 8" inverted drop receiver so your recent post has me wondering. Thank you.  Larry in Monument, CO 2008 24' FD
Larry in Monument, CO
2008 24' FD

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 148485
" do you have pictures if the hitch reinforcement that is explained in the LD Companion? In particular, I'm trying to picture the doubler that you mention. I tow an 85 CJ-7 using an 8" inverted drop receiver so your recent post has me wondering."

Larry

http://lazydazearticles.blogspot.com/search/label/Hitch The  reinforced hitch and doubler, talked about in the Companion, is from someone else, my contribution is about the connection of the bumper to the frame rail and the receiver bolts.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/sets/72157605167526411/show

With such a long inverted dropped receiver, I would definitely want to beef us the rear mounting bolt of the receiver. I use a conventional ball hitch, with a minimal drop, so I have not yet done this but it's will be done at some point with Flickr pics.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 148486
Thank you, Larry. My drop receiver is a Blue Ox, and I had a machinist drill a new hole for the pin to shorten the distance that it sticks out past the bumper. I got an okay from Blue Ox on that mod. I can get a shorter part that goes from the tow bar into the receiver, also Blue Ox, to shorten the assembly by another 4". The whole set up runs dead level. I plan to do your suggested work on the existing hardware and then beef up the hitch per the article in the companion. I'd really hate to tear up the rear end of our rig or see the Jeep going down the road on its own. Right now it pulls very nicely.  Larry in Monument, CO 2008 24' FD
Larry in Monument, CO
2008 24' FD

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 148488
Larry--
 Great of you to share this important information.  Would you please clarify one point?  You document a "bumper extension" in the photos, but I do not see any mention of it in your message.  What is it and how does it fit  into the upgrade/repair task?  Thanks--Ted

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 148502
Does anyone have any pictures of a receiver installation that replaces the bumper hitch?  I have an appointment with a custom hitch shop to have them give me an estimate for installing a replacement hitch.  I am curious as to how the hitch mounts to the frame.  Thanks

Steve

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 148506
"Does anyone have any pictures of a receiver installation that replaces the bumper hitch? "

Steve

LD has used a receiver-type hitch for a long time Here are photos of our 2003 LD's hitch.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/14973421249/in/set-72157605167526411 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/15137657566/in/set-72157605167526411/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/15160693775/in/set-72157605167526411/

Four bolts secure it to the bumper. Notice the two forward bolts are much smaller than the rear two.
In the receiver itself, two 5/8" holes were drilled and 5/8" nuts welded to the receiver. This allows the use of two 5/8" bolts to tighten against the hitch's insert, removing all play in the area.
It really makes a noticeable difference, when towing.
You can get similar results with anti-rattle clips.
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Roadmaster/RM-061.html

There are a few things you can do to beef up the existing hitch receiver, without spending a fortune, that should eliminate most potential problems.
Bigger forward mounting bolts, upgraded hardware (grade-8), a 1/4" plate between the bumper and receiver and using backing plates, behind the bolts, can all be done by a handy home mechanic.

Making sure the hardware is in good shape, torqued to specs and either Locktite or locking nuts are used to secure the nuts, should be part of a tow rig's regular maintenance program.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 148514
IMO the fact that LD has always installed a hitch attached only to the bumper and not the frame tells me LD does NOT encourage towing or carrying more than a minimal load.

Bob Siegel Santa Fe New Mexico

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #9
Yahoo Message Number: 148515
"IMO the fact that LD has always installed a hitch attached only to the bumper and not the frame tells me LD does NOT encourage towing or carrying more than a minimal load."

Bob

The bumper is attached to the frame with extensions. The pull goes directly to the frame.
It is perfectly adequate for the Factory rated 4000-lbs.
I'm suggesting beefing up the connection between the receiver and the bumper to offset the stress caused by raised hitch adaptors, something the original design did not take into account.
Also suggest beefing up the connection between the bumper and frame extensions, as shown in the previous bumper links.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #10
Yahoo Message Number: 148518
"I'm suggesting beefing up the connection between the receiver and the bumper to offset the stress caused by raised hitch adaptors, something the original design did not take into account."

In addition to the previous posting, the bending and breaking problem is increased with some hitch-mounted tow bars, the type where the two telescoping arms stay on the RV.
Many of these tow bars have long shanks, placing the pivot point much farther away from the bumper, compared to a coupler or ball hitch. Extra length means greater leverage and stress on the bumper and  receiver. Having as short a tow bar shank as possible, with adequate clearance so the toad does hit the RV in tight turns, is worth pursuing especially when towing a heavy-weight vehicle and or towing down a lot of rough roads.
The majority of us tow vehicles at or near the 4000-lbs bumper/receiver capacity.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

 
Re: Towing receiver hitch problems
Reply #11
Yahoo Message Number: 148519
I did not know that. Thanks. (Sold my 2004 LD and waiting for a 2015 LD. Diesel pushers (BEEFY) in between.)