1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle December 20, 2012, 12:52:17 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135791Saw this for sale on Craigslist in Seattle. Looks a bit rough cosmetically but otherwise in decent condition. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/rvs/3470044182.html
Re: 1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle Reply #1 – December 20, 2012, 01:05:07 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135792"Saw this for sale on Craigslist in Seattle. Looks a bit rough cosmetically but otherwise in decent condition.> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/rvs/3470044182.html"Oh man, what a basket case! There is rust and damage apparent in most of the photos. It looks to be a total reconstruction project, suitable for someone who needs an expensive, long-term project. Older LDs had serious problems with roof and window sealing. It doesn't look like this rig was well taken care of and one would be well advise to think carefully and do a detailed inspection before purchasing. It is guaranteed that the repairs will easily exceed it value. Parts for the 45 year-old 1968 Dodge chassis are very rare, especially anything to do with the cab (window regulators, rubber seals, heater and mechanical parts).Larry
Curtain Guides Reply #2 – December 20, 2012, 03:09:35 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135793Has anyone found a source fot the small plastic curtain guides inside the curtain track system around the cab windows and in front of the overhead bed? Several of these guides on my 2001 RB have broken. I took one out & searched for them by Google & Amazon, and have not found the same guides. Similar small plastic guides cost about $10 for 100. I contacted LD, and LD charges $0.75 each, so I would like to find another source if possible. The parts man at LD said he had no idea who made them.I hope someone else has solved this problem.Barry[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Curtain Guides Reply #3 – December 20, 2012, 03:48:01 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135794At 01:09 PM 12/20/2012, you wrote:QuoteHas anyone found a source fot the small plastic curtain guides inside the curtain track system around the cab windows and in front of the overhead bed? Several of these guides on my 2001 RB have broken. If you have a drapery maker or supplier in your town, they would carry these. That's where I got them the last time I needed to replace some.Sonsie
Re: Curtain Guides Reply #4 – December 20, 2012, 03:51:22 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135795While I don't know exactly where you can get them, I've got four suggestions:1. Take one to a well-stocked RV store/Camping World...LD cannot possibly be the only user of this item.2. Take one to a well-stocked curtain shop or talk with a reliable interior decorator...they lilkely have seen these used outside of an RV.3. Call LD again and ask for Steve...no doubt he'll know where they buy them, but my guess is that you'd have to buy them by the box of 100...4. Call LD and get the name of the "new" upholstery shop they now use...they're probably the ones who also make the curtains, install and supply the hardware.Please advise the rest of us what the answer is!TinaP 2006 MB[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Curtain Guides Reply #5 – December 20, 2012, 04:17:27 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135796Quote Has anyone found a source fot the small plastic curtain guides inside the curtain track system around the cab windows and in front of the overhead bed? Several of these guides on my 2001 RB have broken. Barry, I spent a lot of miles and gas looking for these 1/4" guides you describe and never could find them. Call LD and they will fix you up. They are sold separately.Joe Hamm
Re: Curtain Guides Reply #6 – December 20, 2012, 04:46:23 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135797Quote "Has anyone found a source fot the small plastic curtain guides inside the curtain track system around the cab windows and in front of the overhead bed?"Barry Barry This has been discussed a number of times here on the board. A search should find it. The Mother Ship has a sub-contractor who makes the curtain sets. I purchased a new set of curtains and they came with the plastic guides installed. Therefore the gal that makes them should have a source for them. Sorry I do not have the makers vitals at this time.Steve S. Lazy Bones & Jiggs
Re: Curtain Guides Reply #7 – December 20, 2012, 04:46:53 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135798wrote: I spent a lot of miles and gas looking for these 1/4" guides you describe and never could find them. Call LD and they will fix you up. They are sold separately. --- I agree that calling LD and ordering "parts" from Vickie is the simplest, least hassle-filled way to get whatever needs replacing. If LD doesn't have the article, they can usually tell you where to get the item or at least a substitute that will fit/work. These posts remind me that I need to send Vickie a check for a screen door handle and slider! ;-)Joan
Re: Curtain Guides -- Follow up Reply #8 – December 20, 2012, 06:12:22 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135801Quote "Has anyone found a source fot the small plastic curtain guides inside the curtain track system around the cab windows and in front of the overhead bed?"BarryBarry"The Mother Ship has a sub-contractor who..." Okay, here's the scoop! The folks who make the curtains are;Creative Draperies 1718 Hillside P.O. Box 5024 Norco, CA 92860 951) 735-2705Ask for 'Verne'They should have or know where you can obtain the guides you need.QuoteSteve S. Lazy Bones & Jiggs
Re: Curtain Guides -- Follow up Reply #9 – December 20, 2012, 08:14:09 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135802A word of caution about buying the plastic clips for the Mothership. Three years ago, I got a bag of 25, thinking i would be a lifetime supply. Now, I have less than five. The replacements were as brittle as the original slides. What LD provided appeared to be original stock...old and yellow-looking. LD switched to a different type of slide several years ago and there is a good chance LD is/was selling old stock. If buying in person, at the Mothership, make sure they are white and new looking. I have not found a supplier of them after checking several sewing and fabric shops. If some one finds a supplier of fresh slides, and are only available in boxes of 100, I will gladly buy 25 at a fair price. I'm sure the rest could easily be sold to other owners of aged LDs. It occurs to me that a large percentage of common LD problems (and RVs in general) are due to the failure of plastic parts. Lazy Daze has done a good job of eliminating the use of most plastic parts in areas exposed to sunlight. The plastic curtain clips were an exception and once again, the plastic part failed. "There's a great future in plastics. Think about it. Will you think about it?" From the "Graduate"Larry
Re: Curtain Guides -- Follow up Reply #10 – December 20, 2012, 09:08:47 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135803Quote"There's a great future in plastics. Think about it. Will you think about it?" From the "Graduate" Larry I believe I ordered 10 last year and have not had a failure. Maybe the old stock is gone. Was the Graduate about plastic?Joe Hamm
Re: Curtain Guides -- Follow up Reply #11 – December 20, 2012, 11:56:57 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135804We got some for our 2004 mb from camping world. Jack
Re: Curtain Guides -- Follow up Reply #12 – December 21, 2012, 04:38:25 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135809Thanks Jack. I also found some in the New Braunfels, TX Camping World. They are not exactly the same, but seem to work, and are much cheaper than from LD.Barry
Re: Curtain Guides -- Follow up Reply #13 – December 21, 2012, 04:41:09 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135810Thanks Steve, As I mentioned in another post, I found some that work from Camping World. The curtain make address could be helpful in the future however.Barry[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Curtain Guides Reply #14 – December 21, 2012, 04:44:20 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135811Thanks Tina, #1 worked. Camping World stocked a surprisingly large assortment of different plastic slides, so it must be a common problem.Barry
Re: Curtain Guides Reply #15 – December 21, 2012, 04:47:37 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135812I guess New Braunfels is too country. I tried a couple of drapery shops here and neither one had a clue of where I could look.Barry
Re: 1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle Reply #16 – December 22, 2012, 12:44:14 am Yahoo Message Number: 135816not a basket case .... this is an amazing find, and a great restoration project. obviously someone has been spoiled and has only owned new LD's ... I've seen much worse for this age, that clean up really well if the person doing the restoration knows what they're doing.if I had the cash, I'd buy it for sure....no smog![Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: 1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle Reply #17 – December 22, 2012, 01:49:10 am Yahoo Message Number: 135817"not a basket case .... this is an amazing find, and a great restoration project. " Unless it has been it inspected by a qualified tech, no one can make that judgement. Sorry, but the CL's photo do not look promising. $4500 is pure fantasy. I will let you in a little secret about LDs, unless the roof is regularly resealed, it WILL leak and then the framing will rot. This is guaranteed. This LD does not appear have been garage, looking at the buildup of dirt and rust. Being located in rainy Seatle does not give me much hope nor do I see any indication of pride of ownership by the existing owner. Notice how there were not any photos of the ceiling or roof. BTW, I do know a few things about repairing old LDs. I have owned both a used and a new LD for a total of over 18 years and have worked on dozens of them, including some extensive rot repair jobs. Knowing the little I do, I would urge any potential buyer to have an extensive inspection of both the coach and chassis, unless throwing money away is entertaining. Since you have never posted before listing this LD for sale, I need to ask, do you have any relationship with this LD? Wouldn't happen to be yours?Larry
Re: 1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle Reply #18 – December 22, 2012, 12:27:36 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135820Quoteobviously someone has been spoiled and has only owned new LD's ... I've seen much worse for this age, that clean up really well if the person doing the restoration knows what they're doing. Actually, the person you are referring to probably has more experience than anyone else here with restoring and rebuilding their's and many other older LD models belonging to folks on this group, many with considerable damage due to leakage, neglect, or accident (the rigs - not the folks!). Although some external staining MAY be cosmetic, the severe visible rust on the cab body speaks of a lot more that can't be seen. I say, get a loan and go for it - prove us wrong!Steve
Re: 1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle Reply #19 – December 22, 2012, 05:57:50 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135822QuoteSorry, but the CL's photo do not look promising. $4500 is pure fantasy. Larry, I concur. In fact, I wouldn't take that vehicle even if the owner paid me. I mean, where you would you put it? Where would you even begin? It's shot; a total basket case. In case anyone wants some free advice, my #1 rule, whether it's a used car, house, surfboard, what-have-you, is it has to be from the original owner. If the original owner isn't selling, I'm not interested. Rule #2 is that the owner had to provide basic maintenance and demonstrate some level of pride of ownership. Anything less is an invitation to misery & grief. The only reason I jumped on our LD is (a) because of the rare combination of it being one of the smallest LDs made (22') coupled with the optional upgrade drivetrain package (454/4L80E). It doesn't take a genius to see that the original owner really loved this baby. Just the thought & effort that went into thinking through the idea that one could have a hot rod RV is compelling enough. So, if you're buying, think twice & do some research, not just on the vehicle, but the owner who is selling.
Re: 1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle Reply #20 – December 22, 2012, 10:40:06 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135823While the merits of this particular LD could be debated (I agree it looks pretty rough and not worth the asking price), I would like to put in a positive plug for older LDs. In 2007 I bought a 1979 LD that needed some TLC. It was certainly not the prettiest LD in the world, but, being an LD, it had "good bones." It was a labor of love to restore it inside and out, and has in return given me five years of great RVing, and is still going strong. I don't have a total figure handy for what it cost me to fix it up, but it by far way less than any newer LD would have cost me for the same return of use. If you're low on cash but are able to do a lot of the work yourself for whatever fixing up it needs, buying an older LD is the way to go. The conventional wisdom on this list is that you need to have an X amount of money saved up before buying an older RV because you can count on putting much that into it after you purchase it. The truth is, you won't be spending all that money at once, so you don't need to have that much cash in hand before buying. You can do what you can afford to do right off the bat, and do the rest as you can afford and/or have time to do it. An older LD is obviously not for everyone. But for those of you like me who look at pictures of older LDs like this cute little 1968 LD and find its vintage look appealing, AND have the wherewithal to restore it, I say go for it (especially if you can get it for lots less money than the asking price on this one). I'd love to see more vintage LDs given new life rather than rotting away in backyards. And for someone wanting an older LD that is already restored, or who wants to try out RVing without investing a lot of money, stay tuned. Mine will be up for sale in the near future. Email me privately if you have any interest. There are a few pictures of it here on the LD Yahoo group:photos/album/2116945726/pic/list> Why am I selling? Due to the generosity of a dear friend (Susan Fain, who sold me the 1979 LD; yes, it even came with a great friend!), I am now the proud new owner of her second LD, a 2003 MB. Unfortunately her health has declined to the point of no longer being able to RV, but she is now enjoying a beautiful ocean view from her new Florida condo.Fern 1 Likes
Re: 1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle Reply #21 – December 23, 2012, 09:54:15 am Yahoo Message Number: 135826"for someone wanting an older LD that is already restored, or who wants to try out RVing without investing a lot of money, stay tuned. Mine will be up for sale in the near future." Fern's 1979 Lazy Daze is absolutely beautiful inside and out. She and her family did a fantastic job restoring it! It would be a great first motorhome for someone on a budget.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: 1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle Reply #22 – December 25, 2012, 01:50:53 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135847Fern Send me your email I have followed this ld every since Susan first bought it and was considering it when you bought it. I'd love to discuss if with you Was involved when she was doing copper flares.... I even popped over and said hi to her at Gambler Rodgers park in in Florida but she was in her new one then. Ted popped in to my camper the same trip.gmfoster at gmail dot comThanks Garry Sent from Garry's iPhone
Re: 1968 Lazy Daze on CL Seattle Reply #23 – December 26, 2012, 12:43:19 pm Yahoo Message Number: 135852What a beautiful job you did on this old LD! It's lovely. I know someone who might be interested too, hope you will share the info when you are ready to sell!Kristin
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