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Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 134741
"Larry"  wrote:
See Level Model 709

http://www.adventurerv.net/see-level-tank-monitor-709-p-536.html ---

Larry, this is from the See Level product description:
 "LPG tank connection compatible with existing electric senders. Calibrate LPG at first fill of tank or it can be factory calibrated."
 The first sentence I get; the second, I don't; how is the LPG tank calibrated when the See Level is an after-market installation?  And, which "factory" does "factory-calibrated" refer to?  See Level?  Manchester Tank? The coach manufacturer, i.e., LD?

Please explain; thank you!

Joan
2003 TK has a new home

Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 134742
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"LPG tank connection compatible with existing electric senders. Calibrate LPG at first fill of tank or it can be factory calibrated."
 The first sentence I get; the second, I don't; how is the LPG tank calibrated when the See Level is an after-market installation?  And, which "factory" does "factory-calibrated" refer to?  See Level?  Manchester Tank? The coach manufacturer, i.e., LD?

Joan, read as "calibrate LPG function of SeeLevel gauge". Or, the gauge can be calibrated for you if you know the sensor characteristics.
 Note that with ours, the gauge readout does not correspond well with the mechanical gauge on the tank. Our install is still too recent for me to figure out which reading is more accurate. However, either method beats the vent-hood idiot lights.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit

Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 134743
Has anyone in the Seattle or NW Washington area had a SeeLevel Gauge installed at a local shop? Any recommendations? Or in Oregon?  I'm thinking this could be a great Christmas upgrade for our 2011 midbath but we sure don't know how to install it ourselves! Found one for $170 plus $13 shipping at www.dyersonline.com

Thanks!

Marti in Seattle



"what model SeeLevel gauge are folks installing on LDs?"

Model 709:
 http://www.rvupgradestore.com/Garnett-Technologies-Model-709-SeeLeveL-II-p/7 09-1003.htm

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/

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Marti
2011 Blue MB
Seattle

Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 134745
I'm not Larry, but here verbatim is the calibration instructions from the manual:

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To calibrate the LPG sender:
 • The LPG tank must be full when the sender is calibrated, otherwise the calibration will be invalid. Fill the LPG tank by using an alternate measurement method, such as weight, a spit valve, or a mechanical gauge on the tank.
 • To calibrate, press and hold down the LPG button, the display will show some LPG level.
 • While continuing to hold down the LPG button, press and hold down the BATT button. Continue to hold down both buttons for about 5 seconds until the display shows "LPG".
 • When this occurs release both buttons, the display will show "CAL" for a second and then shut off, completing the calibration procedure.
 • The LPG can be recalibrated as many times as desired, although recalibration should not be needed unless the LPG tank sender or the display has been replaced.

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 Basically, it's saying to the Seelevel panel that the voltage from the LPG tank you see now represents a full tank, i.e. 100%.

Alex Rutchka, SE #4 '05 MB

Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 134748
"Please explain; thank you!"

Joan

Well, I was beat to it, RTFM.
Now the the agreement between the LED panel, tank gauge and SeeLevel is really iffy. They change all the time and never agree.
The problem seems to be with float/sensor inside the propane tank. It moves when the RV moves. It also appears to change according to the ambient temperature, expanding as it gets warmer. Maybe its magic.
One would think it being the same design as a car's fuel gauge, it would be as accurate but it isn't.
I pay attention to the SeeLevel and mostly ignore the tank's gauge and the LEDs. The electrical part of the fuel sender seems to be more accurate.
I was happy to install a extra 3-gallon auxiliary tank, no more worry about the guess reading of the main tank.

Larry
2001 MB
* Not to be confused with Larry W (3000 of my posts are actually from expert Larry W due to Yahoo transition mis-step)

Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 134749
"Larry"  wrote: RTFM.
--- Ah, of course; the *See Level* manual holds the calibration secrets! Thanks, Alex, Steve, and Larry! Makes sense now! ;-)

Joan
2003 TK has a new home


Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #10
Yahoo Message Number: 134754
"Do these need extra sensors for the white/grey/black water tanks? Or is a single 12" enough for each?"
 A single strip per tank was sufficient for my 2003 26.5' midbath and Kate Klein's 2005 30.5' twin bed. Dunno about other models... Larry?

Andy
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #11
Yahoo Message Number: 134755
"Do these need extra sensors for the white/grey/black water tanks? Or is a single 12" enough for each?"
 The water tank is usually the tallest. A 12" strip fits all I have looked at.
The black and gray tanks are shorter.
If you can, measure the height of your LD's water tank to confirm.

Larry
2001 MB
* Not to be confused with Larry W (3000 of my posts are actually from expert Larry W due to Yahoo transition mis-step)


Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #13
Yahoo Message Number: 134758
"Where did you install the auxiliary tank? That sounds like a great idea."

Don

Well, first you move the batteries to another place....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/sets/72157602104740457/ Use the now empty compartment for a 3-gallon propane canister.
Run a hose from the new tank to an 4-port brass tee, located between the propane's valve and regulator. Leave the new tank's valve closed and open only when the ma
2001 MB
* Not to be confused with Larry W (3000 of my posts are actually from expert Larry W due to Yahoo transition mis-step)

 
Re: SeeLevel Gauge
Reply #14
Yahoo Message Number: 134773
In my'07 TK, the fresh water tank is about 22" high. I thought I'd need another sensor, the instructions cover how this is done. When I called See Level to order, they told me just to mount the 12" sensor about an inch from the bottom of the tank. It registers 100% until it reaches about half when it goes to 90%. From there we just do the math. We have never run out of water or had any problem. A new sensor at the time cost $62.
Good luck installing it. It is well worth it's cost.

Beverly '07 TK