Mexico travel... February 05, 2012, 04:17:29 pm Yahoo Message Number: 128403Just a comment: Border towns are unlike most other towns and cities in the interior of Mexico; making short visits to U.S.-Mexican border towns for shopping, eating in the restaurants, or having dental, vision, or medical work done is *nothing* like traveling for long time periods and distances into the interior of Mexico. IMO, too many people base their opinions of "Mexico" on what they hear about or experience, good or bad, in one or another of the border towns. Border towns are what they are, and what they always have been; their "services" cater to the demands of the clientele! Yes, one has to cross through one of the border points to enter the mainland of Mexico, but, if one has done all the "homework" and is properly prepared, it's generally an uneventful experience. If one is considering RV/road travel past the the border towns into the interior of Mexico, the resources I mentioned in a previous post may be very helpful in deciding whether to make the trip, and, if one does, how to best prepare to stay as safe as possible and to enjoy the people and the country.Joan
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #1 – February 05, 2012, 04:39:18 pm Yahoo Message Number: 128404Quote "...making short visits to U.S.-Mexican border towns for shopping, eating in the restaurants, or having dental, vision, or medical work done is *nothing* like traveling for long time periods and distances into the interior of Mexico."Joan To Joan and others... I don't mind saying that I am prejudice! My life experiences have made me that way. Sorry if that offends anyone. When it comes to travel outside the U.S. I'll go north. At lease the folks up that way speak my language *to a degree*. Although I don't always agree with their 'Customs Regulations' I'll have no trouble abiding by them. I'm certainly more comfortable not having to concern myself with Drug Cartels, border panhandlers and thieves or even corrupt LEOs. And I won't have to compete with Tioga George for camping space, morning noon or night.Standing down here.Steve S. Lazy Bones & Jiggs
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #2 – February 05, 2012, 05:28:56 pm Yahoo Message Number: 128405In a message dated 2/5/2012 2:17:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes:If one is considering RV/road travel past the the border towns into the interior of Mexico, the resources I mentioned in a previous post may be very helpful in deciding whether to make the trip, and, if one does, how to best prepare to stay as safe as possible and to enjoy the people and theHello Joan, Many, many years ago, I remember reading RV magazines, and in them were advertising's about going into Mexico on flat bed train cars with your RV anchored on the car. Was that the case, or do I not remember correctly? If it was true, are there anymore such excursions into Mexico? Escondido, CA John LD 2003 MB 26.5[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #3 – February 05, 2012, 05:37:15 pm Yahoo Message Number: 128406At 03:28 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote:QuoteMany, many years ago, I remember reading RV magazines, and in them were advertising's about going into Mexico on flat bed train cars with your RV anchored on the car. Was that the case, or do I not remember correctly? If it was true, are there anymore such excursions into Mexico? My folks took that trip probably 15-20 years ago and loved it, but I don't know if it is still offered. Given the political situation and other serious issues in Mexico, it might not be still available.Sonsie
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #4 – February 05, 2012, 05:43:33 pm Yahoo Message Number: 128407I have tomorrow off from work. Shayne and I are going to the border city of Juarez, but we are paying someone to watch the pets and we are walking across. If you don't hear from me again, well you can guess that it wasn't such a great idea.http://timehasshownme.com__
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #5 – February 05, 2012, 06:16:37 pm Yahoo Message Number: 128409Sonsie Conroy wrote: My folks took that trip probably 15-20 years ago and loved it, but I don't know if it is still offered. Given the political situation and other serious issues in Mexico, it might not be still available. --- The company which offered the "put your rig on the flatcar and go" was called "Tracks to Adventure"; Larry and Maria Olsen, the company's owners, retired and Tracks to Adventure merged with Adventure Caravans in 2011. http://www.adventurecaravans.com/mexico/mexico.aspAFAIK, the flatcar RV tours aren't offered anymore, but Adventure Caravans does offer several tour options.Joan
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #6 – February 06, 2012, 06:30:03 am Yahoo Message Number: 128412See: http://www.lazydazers.com/index.cfm?fa=avcNo longer done.best, paul"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive... to breath, to think, to enjoy, to love."~ Marcus AureliusHello Joan, Many, many years ago, I remember reading RV magazines, and in Quotethem were advertising's about going into Mexico on flat bed train cars with your RV anchored on the car. Was that the case, or do I not remember correctly? If it was true, are there anymore such excursions into Mexico? Escondido, CA John LD 2003 MB 26.5 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #7 – February 06, 2012, 06:39:22 am Yahoo Message Number: 128413In a message dated 2/6/2012 4:30:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes: See: _http://www.lazydazers.com/index.cfm?fa=avc_ (http://www.lazydazers.com/index.cfm?fa=avc)No longer done.best, paulToo bad. Would loved to do it. Wondering if there were any hookups, or was it train dry camping. Escondido, CA John LD 2003, MB 26.5[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #8 – February 06, 2012, 07:08:52 am Yahoo Message Number: 128414Dry camping on the flatcars. But we pretty much went out to dinner every night while on the train. The wagon master limited the train speed to 19mph for safety purposes. We were on the train only 5 days. The rumor is the Mexican government stopped it because of concern about an accident casting a bad light on tourism. We never heard any accident had happened. It was pretty amazing to stand out in front of our LD, holding on to its grill, and see the whole panorama unfold in front of me. We were warned not to sit on our camp chairs ;o)We did have to sign a liability release.This was an interesting day: http://www.lazydazers.com/index.cfm?fa=ShowItem&ID=1541best, paul"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive... to breath, to think, to enjoy, to love."~ Marcus AureliusSee:Quote _http://www.lazydazers.com/index.cfm?fa=avc_ (http://www.lazydazers.com/index.cfm?fa=avc)No longer done.best, paul Too bad. Would loved to do it. Wondering if there were any hookups, or was it train dry camping. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #9 – February 06, 2012, 07:23:46 am Yahoo Message Number: 128415There was an accident in Copper Canyon not with the train . A large landslide which closed the canyon. This was second hand info.Betty Jeanon the train only 5 days. The rumor is the Mexican government stopped it because of concern about an ccident casting a bad light on tourism. We never heard any accident had appened.Quotebest, paul Too bad. Would loved to do it. Wondering if there were any hookups, or was it train dry camping.Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #10 – February 06, 2012, 11:08:32 am Yahoo Message Number: 128416Tracks To Adventure, owned by Larry and Maria Olsen, were the pioneers with the piggy-back train ride through the Copper Canyon and offered this trip for more than 25 years. As mentioned, they retired and allowed Tracks to merge with Adventure Caravans. We enjoyed this amazing train trip in 2006 and I believe it was stopped in 2007 or possibly 2008. A senior WagonMaster with Tracks told me the Mexican government ordered these trips stopped because of a concern for liability. We were not aware of any accidents on our trip but certainly did witness some shaky situations that OSHA would not approve of....but it was Mexico. We did have armed guards. Several tour caravan groups continued to offer Copper Canyon trips, but they just aren't the same without the train ride. At the present time venturing into Mexico, in my opinion, is not worth the risk. I agree with the RVer who said "travel north of our border where the folks are friendly and they speak our language". All the Mexican citizens we encountered were very friendly and helpful and, hopefully, we will be able to travel there in the future. Gale 2002IB
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #11 – February 06, 2012, 02:39:08 pm Yahoo Message Number: 128417just returned from Juarez!!!!! Yes, all in one piece. We didn't have any issues. We did what we had to do, walked around a bit in the downtown, had lunch, crossed back into El Paso, and drove back to Deming. No issues to report here.http://timehasshownme.com
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #12 – February 06, 2012, 02:57:36 pm Yahoo Message Number: 128418In a message dated 2/6/2012 12:39:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes:just returned from Juarez!!!!! Yes, all in one piece. We didn't have any issues. We did what we had to do, walked around a bit in the downtown, had lunch, crossed back into El Paso, and drove back to Deming. No issues to report here.Back in 1965/1966 when I was stationed at Holloman AFB, Alamagordo, NM we used to go the Zaragoza for some cheap shopping. Crossing was very easy and safe back then. Escondido John LD 2003, MB 26.5[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Mexico travel... Reply #13 – February 06, 2012, 07:09:07 pm Yahoo Message Number: 128420Neat read Paul, thanks.
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