Ford V10 vs V8 September 29, 2011, 08:40:08 pm Yahoo Message Number: 125565The LD we are considering comes with a Ford V8 with the V10 optional.Any recommendations, we plan on towing a vehicle.
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #1 – September 29, 2011, 11:29:47 pm Yahoo Message Number: 125569Greg, I'd figure out what you're going to tow first, how often and where. A Smart car or something like a Wrangler or something
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #2 – September 30, 2011, 01:08:03 am Yahoo Message Number: 125573"The LD we are considering comes with a Ford V8 with the V10 optional."GregWe have a 23.5' LD, with a V-10 and tow a Jeep. There are times I wished it had a V-12. If you live in the West or plan on extensively touring out here, get the V-10.Larry
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #3 – September 30, 2011, 09:07:04 am Yahoo Message Number: 125577I tow a PT behind my V10, 26RB 2000. As Larry said in another post depends n where you plan to go & tow. I live about 2 hours from Banks and had them install a Banks kit on my LD. It gave me more torque, a tiny bit better on gas milage but the BIGGY was going over 2 mountains from Palm Desert on the routes I go to the north. Prior to the Banks kit I was slugging along the Cajon Pass (near San Berdardino) at sometimes a whopping 35 -40 mph or the Grapevine outside of Bakersfield a bit slower than that. I now go over those passes at 55 easy (legal limit in California while towing). We have traveled over some passes in Colorado and points north that exceed 7,000 ft and it still chugs up. To the point on one pass in Colorado we unhooked and I drove the PT to the summit more because of the tight twists at points the LD would be going around the bend while the PT was still just starting into the bend.Betty Jean
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #4 – September 30, 2011, 09:23:51 am Yahoo Message Number: 125578Greg, In addition to what has already been said about the V-10, I will add this. We are close to completing a 10,000-mile trip in the western states soon to return home to Florida. We tow a 3500lb Honda CRV with our 2010 27' RB V-10 LD. We have gone over several 6000 to 11,000 ft. passes (most on non-interstate roads). We never had the first problem ether up or down the grades. Tow/haul transmission setting is essential on the downgrades though. On flat open roads we tow around 65 to 70 mph getting fuel mileage between 7.5 to 8.6 mpg. Hills & high grades will slightly lower this. 6.8 mpg is the lowest we have had on the entire trip. We drove the same way pulling the same car with another 26' class "C" with the Ford 6.0 diesel for six years before getting the LD. The diesel had less power than the V-10 and got about the same overall mileage (not any higher). Add the higher expense and mess of the fuel, the V-10 is a better choice. Mike
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #5 – September 30, 2011, 10:34:04 am Yahoo Message Number: 125582wrote: I tow a PT behind my V10, 26RB 2000. As Larry said in another post depends n where you plan to go & tow. I live about 2 hours from Banks and had them install a Banks kit on my LD. It gave me more torque, a tiny bit better on gas milage but the BIGGY was going over 2 mountains from Palm Desert on the routes I go to the north... --- A Banks system might well offer the performance improvements that you listed, but the OP's question was whether the V-10 or the V-8 was the better engine choice for the 24'. IMO, the choice is clear; towing or not, get the V-10.Joan
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #6 – September 30, 2011, 12:15:08 pm Yahoo Message Number: 125585QuoteWe have a 23.5' LD, with a V-10 and tow a Jeep. There are times I wished it had a V-12. Now, if you've ever ridden with "Leadfoot Larry," you'd fully understand his preference. Jon (he of the light throttle)
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #7 – September 30, 2011, 12:25:30 pm Yahoo Message Number: 125586I am also considering a V8. Wonder what the gas mileage difference would be, if you are not towing anything and the terra
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #8 – September 30, 2011, 12:43:44 pm Yahoo Message Number: 125588"I am also considering a V8. Wonder what the gas mileage difference would be, if you are not towing anything and the terrain is almost flat? Like traveling Interstate 5 in CA."Steve I doubt if you are going to get much useful information about the V-8's mileage since E450 V-8 LDs are next to non-existent. My gut feeling is there will be little difference in mileage. Pushing 12,000-14,000 lbs down the road (plus the weight of any toad or trailer) takes a lot of power and will stress the V8 more than the V10. We owned an 1983 LD, with the underpowered 350 V8. It was constantly under heavy throttle and got consistently worse mileage than our 2003 V10 powered Ford, even though it weighed much less and was very slow on grades. The motor was also worn out at 105,000 miles. I would also be concerned about the V8 effecting resale value.Larry
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #9 – September 30, 2011, 12:48:45 pm Yahoo Message Number: 125589"Now, if you've ever ridden with "Leadfoot Larry," you'd fully understand his preference. Jon (he of the light throttle)" I noticed how slow you old guys drive. Some of us have places to see and can't spend forever getting there.Larry
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #10 – September 30, 2011, 01:20:21 pm Yahoo Message Number: 125590Thanks Larry... what you say make sense. I am looking to buy my first MH and was considering a used V8 24' LD for sale that was only a few years old. Also thanks Mike... you give us all a pretty good idea of what kind of gas mileage to expect. I guess nothing over 10 mpg as a rule of thumb and
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #11 – September 30, 2011, 01:21:07 pm Yahoo Message Number: 125591Joan is spot on. The V10 will not prove more expensive to operate as it will not have to work as hard as the V8. The extra power will serve you well.Bob__
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #12 – September 30, 2011, 08:14:48 pm Yahoo Message Number: 125602Yes, Joan. I did understand that statement.Betty Jean
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #13 – October 01, 2011, 12:32:23 am Yahoo Message Number: 125607Assuming this is NOT a new LD, then I would recommend the V10. I do all of my own maintenance, so I know the V10 pretty well. Its a sturdy engine and quite reliable. I have a 97 which is the first production year and it has 91K miles on it. The newer V10s have about 50 more hp than the older ones, along with more torque. I would recommend headers and a more free-flowing air intake system on the older engines. It does make a difference if you plan to tow. OTOH, I even think the new rigs are still underpowered. An engine of at least 400 HP and 400 lb-ft of torque near 3K RPM would be a LOT better with these rigsChuck Myers 97RB Skye Hartford, IA[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #14 – October 01, 2011, 12:40:11 am Yahoo Message Number: 125608I have always wondered if anyone has installed a turbo charger on the V-10.Dick
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #15 – October 01, 2011, 09:42:12 am Yahoo Message Number: 125611CC wrote: I even think the new rigs are still underpowered. An engine of at least 400 HP and 400 lb-ft of torque near 3K RPM would be a LOT better with these rigs --- I would, too, but I think this is probably as close as Ford will get to that objective. Snipped from the 2011 E450 "motorhome chassis" spec sheet:ENGINE, GASOLINE (Standard) Displacement 5.4L Triton® (330 CID) V8 Fuel Injection Sequential Electronic Fuel Injection (SEFI) Horsepower (SAE Net) 255 @ 4,500 RPM Torque (lb.-ft.) (SAE Net) 350 @ 2,500 RPMENGINE, GASOLINE (Optional) Displacement 6.8L Triton® (415 CID) V10 Fuel Injection Sequential Electronic Fuel Injection (SEFI) Horsepower (SAE Net) 305 @ 4,250 RPM Torque (lb.-ft.) (SAE Net) 420 @ 3,250 RPMJoan
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #16 – October 01, 2011, 11:01:50 am Yahoo Message Number: 125615"I have always wondered if anyone has installed a turbo charger on the V-10."Dick Never seen a turbo E450. There really isn't much room for the plumbing and certainly no space for a large inter-cooler. If there was available room, Ford's inter-cooled turbo diesel would probably have been fitted. Without an inter-cooler, a turbo gas or diesel engine is crippled. I have seem superchargers for the V10 but, once again, the tight engine bay is a big problem. Supercharger are more of a pickup truck item, due to having a larger engine bay and more hood clearance. A Bank's system is a proven way to increase power. Most every owner I have talked with has reported the same or less mileage. It's hard not to use the extra power.Larry
Re: Ford V10 vs V8 Reply #17 – October 01, 2011, 11:17:35 am Yahoo Message Number: 125616Ford supplies a higher hp version on their F53 chassis, as used on the Winnebago Vista line. From the Vista brochure:Ford® F53 Chassis 362-hp 6.8l Super duty V10 SeFi Triton® engine, torqShift™ 5-speed automatic transmission w/tow/haul, 175-amp. alternator My current Class C with trailer weighs 14,000lbs, giving 62 lbs/hp with the 225 hp V10 (1997). Steep hills mean slowing to 45-50 mph, but it's worked well for 170,000 miles, and I get 10 mpg cruising at 60 mph, with the trailer. A new LD at it's GVWR, towing a Wrangler, would be about 17,500 for 57 lbs/hp, and probably could continue up those hills at 55-60 mph. Using the V8, it'd 69 lbs/hp, so I suggest getting the V10 if you intend to tow, and be happy. Less stress on the engine at all times, and more power when you want it, and only $1000 additional purchase cost.Eric Greenwell
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