Banks exhaust system to 30'? October 22, 2010, 10:12:12 am Yahoo Message Number: 117673Anyone find a big difference in the addition of adding a banks system to your 30' LD? We just drove our new used 2006 30' home and went up a 7% grade. Also the unit was pretty much empty of everything. Or is going 45-50 mph up a grade normal for an E450 with 2300 miles on it? Also does the banks system add more mpg? Thanks for looking.
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #1 – October 22, 2010, 10:59:14 am Yahoo Message Number: 117674Quote "Anyone find a big difference in the addition of adding a banks system to your 30' LD? We just drove our new used 2006 30' home and went up a 7% grade. Also the unit was pretty much empty of everything. Or is going 45-50 mph up a grade normal for an E450 with 2300 miles on it? Also does the banks system add more mpg? Thanks for looking." Sounds about right for a 7% grade. If you were towing a car, you'd be in a lower gear and going slower. I can usually go up a 5-6% grade at 50-55 mph with cruise still engaged (not towing). Above 6%, it slows down. Others will have opinions, but I don't think the investment in a Banks add-on is worth the gain in speed going up mountain grades - or worth the other benefits that may come from Banks. It may take a little longer without Banks, but it's a lot cheaper. You can work out the math for yourself.Chris Horst 2002 30' IB Arvada, CO
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #2 – October 22, 2010, 11:38:13 am Yahoo Message Number: 117675"is going 45-50 mph up a [7%] grade normal for an E450 with 2300 miles on it?"Sounds about right to me. What's your hurry? :-)"does the banks system add more mpg?" I don't have one myself, but most people who have these systems don't seem to find fuel economy improving. In fact, some have reported that it goes down a bit, just because of the temptation to take advantage of the increased power.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #3 – October 22, 2010, 11:59:54 am Yahoo Message Number: 117678Quote "Or is going 45-50 mph up a grade normal for an E450..." adnd1952 (is that a name?)adnd1952 Well, regardless of how many miles it has (my '04 has 50,000) the E450 is one powerful engine. And, after 50k miles I have yet to see a 6-7% grade that was perfectly straight. So what I'm reading is that you wish to travel up such a grade at speeds of 45-50 mph. In my estimation that is downright dangerous (or foolish) and should be given many second thoughts. A 14,000 lb GVWR vehicle is not designed for that kind of performance. Afterall, isn't the object of RVing all about enjoying the ride and the scenery???Steve S. Lazy Bones & Jiggs
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #4 – October 22, 2010, 12:18:41 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117679From: adnd1952 Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 7:12 AM To: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com Subject: [LD] Banks exhaust system to 30'?Anyone find a big difference in the addition of adding a banks system to your 30' LD? We just drove our new used 2006 30' home and went up a 7% grade. Also the unit was pretty much empty of everything. Or is going 45-50 mph up a grade normal for an E450 with 2300 miles on it? Also does the banks system add more mpg? Thanks for looking.There's much in the archives on this, but basically the Banks system gains a small amount of extra fuel mileage - - probably take near forever to pay for itself. However, it allows you to go up any "normal" hill just as fast as you would like! Um, while burning a proportionately greater amount of fuel, of course. I have a Banks on my 26 MB.bumper Yonder Minden, NV[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #5 – October 22, 2010, 02:17:00 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117681"...the object of RVing..."We are driving along Skyline drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway in full color, feeling a little sympathy for anyone who hasn't had the chance.Then we realize that the real loss is the folks who are flying by at 50 or better and missing most of it.from the EVO[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #6 – October 22, 2010, 03:27:33 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117682George Peters wrote: We are driving along Skyline drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway in full color, feeling a little sympathy for anyone who hasn't had the chance. Then we realize that the real loss is the folks who are flying by at 50 or better and missing most of it. --- Not only are the ones who blast through missing "scenery", but they're usually driving way too fast for conditions! The speed limit on the BR Parkway is 45, like it is through Yellowstone and on a whole lot of roads in a whole lot of other places! Not that this apparently makes any difference to a lot of these "gotta get there!" types; I can't count the numbers of times that I have been driving the motorhome *at the speed limit*, but have been tailgated, honked at, flipped off, and passed on a curve (*and* on the right more than once by some dipstick on a motorcycle!) by fools who were in a big yank to get down the road! Too bad the factory doesn't offer a few James Bond-type "get this jerk off my tail" options; I have had plenty of occasions to put the "oil spew" and "rear turret gun" into play! ;-)Joan
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #7 – October 22, 2010, 04:30:50 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117683We added the Banks to our '06 30IB AE this summer. Could we have done without? Yes. However, I like it. Definitely have more power climbing hills/mountains while towing our '05 Sube Outback. We have experienced a gain of just over 1 mpg while traveling from CA, to NV, UT, CO, WY, MT, ID, British Columbia, WA and back to FL via Yellowstone, the Tetons, and other scenic by-ways.We are not NASCAR rated. Generally take our time. Try to stay off the interstates when we can and when we are on the interstates we run between 60 and 65 while aiming for about 62 as the rig seems to like that speed. Generally run 50 to 55 on the secondary byways is the speed limit permits. Bob - Now Back in Florida after seven months on the road loving every minute of it! {:>)__
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #8 – October 22, 2010, 07:11:29 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117685On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:27:22 -0000, "jctaylor1941" jctaylor1941@...> wrote:QuoteI can't count the numbers of times that I have been driving the motorhome *at the speed limit*, but have been tailgated, honked at, flipped off, and passed on a curve How very odd. I drive below the speed limit and have only had about three such events happen in the last five years. And two of those were in the South. We find western drivers to be more tolerant of slow drivers. It seems that my mileage does vary.
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #9 – October 22, 2010, 07:13:51 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117686On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:12:00 -0000, "adnd1952" adnd1952@...> wrote these inspiring words:QuoteAnyone find a big difference in the addition of adding a banks system to your 30' LD? Try a LS9 engine. About 25m for the engine and another 35m to install it and you will be passing them all up a 7% grade.
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #10 – October 22, 2010, 08:40:47 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117687QuoteTry a LS9 engine. The LS9 is only appropriate for a General Motors plastic car (aka Vette ) not our aluminum clad motocoach. ;>)Malcolm Blue02MB
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #11 – October 22, 2010, 11:55:48 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117689FWIW, I bought my 26.5 2002
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #12 – October 23, 2010, 10:29:51 am Yahoo Message Number: 117695Joan said "Too bad the factory doesn't offer a few James Bond-type "get this jerk off my tail" options; I have had plenty of occasions to put the "oil spew" and "rear turret gun" into play! ;-)" I suppose one could tap into the black water tank and arrange a spray to the rear...Ken F in NM[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #13 – October 23, 2010, 12:24:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117701Kenneth Fears wrote: I suppose one could tap into the black water tank and arrange a spray to the rear... --- Ah, Ken, I like your thinking! I see a "rear traffic management" kludge in the early stages of development... ;-)Joan
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #14 – October 23, 2010, 04:49:59 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117713"Ah, Ken, I like your thinking! I see a "rear traffic management" kludge in the early stages of development... ;-)"JoanMany things are possible. We have the technology. You will be contacted.LarryIn the bunker at the RV Skunk Works
Re: Banks exhaust system to 30'? Reply #15 – October 23, 2010, 04:57:05 pm Yahoo Message Number: 117714Actually you can buy an LS9 from Scoggin-Dickey for $22,985.00Installation on the other hand - yikes.Maybe there are engine builders that sell hot-rodded V10 Tritons...
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