where is the rot, electrolysis August 14, 2009, 10:03:28 am Yahoo Message Number: 104821On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:23:32 -0000, hemlock8lane wrote:QuoteAsk me where the rot, electrolysis is on certain models and I'll post. That might be of interest to some, IF you know the age of each rig, it's location. I would expect some damage on 10 plus year old rigs that live in rainy climates, parked uncovered, level and seldom used. We know from an owners survey last fall that most LD's fall into the seldom used category - occasional weekends and vacations.Cheers, Don
Re: where is the rot, electrolysis Reply #1 – August 14, 2009, 10:48:04 am Yahoo Message Number: 104824"We know from an owners survey last fall that most LD's fall into the seldom used category - occasional weekends and vacations."Here's the survey:http://vote.sparklit.com/popup_poll/1092821> Weekends and vacations (first three categories) account for 44% of responses, while trips of one month or longer (last four categories) account for 56%.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: where is the rot, electrolysis Reply #2 – August 15, 2009, 01:11:39 am Yahoo Message Number: 104842I've lurked here for many years and have always wanted an LD. Well we found a 1992 E350 23.5 FL with generator and in great condition. Over 2 years of searching.Time line, Our first SOB Didn't have a clue about RV's and I've been a Dealership and Fleet Tech for over 30 years. 20 as a Driveabilty Tech (GM) and then a Fleet Tech with Onan experience. The SOB had major balsa wood but it servered us well for our first rv! Looked at many early 80's>90's and there are alot of them with electrolysis and wood rot issues. Mostly on the seams and windows which you may have already known. It seems water intrusion on the edge seams let water in and electrolysis and wood rot sets in.TK, Lower window area and kitchen. Mp, Bad in the bath window lower area and rear ceiling vent. FL, Both lounge windows lower area, bath bottom of the window. When you inspect you need to check all windows and over cab areas. The best advise is to push "lightly" around any area where there is a sealing area. You can tell when the wood is compromised from water intrusion it'll be soft.We are new LD owners. Plan on Eternabond and window reseal this fall to preserve our investment.Blue and white to the Northwest this fall.No name but, I'm a fan of the Christmas Vacation Movie.She's a beaut Clark on the back window.
Re: where is the rot, electrolysis Reply #3 – August 15, 2009, 09:47:53 am Yahoo Message Number: 104847On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 05:11:30 -0000, hemlock8lane wrote:QuoteLooked at many early 80's>90's and there are alot of them with electrolysis and wood rot issues.TK, Lower window area and kitchen. Mp, Bad in the bath window lower area and rear ceiling vent. FL, Both lounge windows lower area, bath bottom of the window.Blue and white to the Northwest this fall. I asked that you post the information you had gathered looking at various models, but I also asked that you post model year and location. Someone could take your post as a blanket allegation that LD's leak. That is NOT the case. I would say that older models that have been continually exposed to moisture may absorb water. I could surmise from your note that you were only looking at 20 year old models in the northwest. That is the age and location I would expect to find water damage. [I love the NW, but I would not store an RV outside there]And to everyone not living in the desert SW, when storing your rig park it so water can drain off the roof.Cheers, Don
Re: where is the rot, electrolysis Reply #4 – August 15, 2009, 02:20:23 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104863On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Don Malpas wrote:QuoteI could surmise from your note that you were only looking at 20 year old models in the northwest. That is the age and location I would expect to find water damage. [I love the NW, but I would not store an RV outside there] Don, you pick on the Great Northwest, but I might remind you that (outside of the desert SW) Northwest cities like Seattle (37.19") amd Portland (36.3") get less annual precipitation than most of the rest of the country. Take Southern cities like Mobile, AL (63.96") or Little Rock, AR (50.86 ") Florida cities almost all over 50", East Coast cities like NYC (47.25") or even Midwest cities like Cincinnati (41.33") or Indianapolis (39.25"). Add to that we do not have the temperature extremes of the East Coast or Midwest or even the UV problems of the SW, so I think it is one of the best places to store your LD outside if inside storage is not an option. Just my opinion, maybe tainted a bit since I live here. (Source of data NOAA, Climatography of the United States, No.81) Rich Gort - 2000 MB (Stored outside 9 years with no leaks) Birch Bay, WA
Re: where is the rot, electrolysis Reply #5 – August 15, 2009, 03:03:49 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104864Quote Don, you pick on the Great Northwest, but I might remind you that (outside of the desert SW) Northwest cities like Seattle (37.19") amd Portland (36.3") get less annual precipitation than most of the rest of the country. Take Southern cities like Mobile, AL (63.96") or Little Rock, AR (50.86 ") Florida cities almost all over 50", East Coast cities like NYC (47.25") or even Midwest cities like Cincinnati (41.33") or Indianapolis (39.25"). Add to that we do not have the temperature extremes of the East Coast or Midwest or even the UV problems of the SW, so I think it is one of the best places to store your LD outside if inside storage is not an option. Just my opinion, maybe tainted a bit since I live here. (Source of data NOAA, Climatography of the United States, No.81)Rich Gort - 2000 MB (Stored outside 9 years with no leaks) Birch Bay, WA Rich - You're giving away our secrets! People who don't live here think it rains all the time. If they find out it doesn't, we'll be inundated with people who want to live in God's country. :-) As usual, YMMV.--Al in (sunny) Bremerton --2002 26.5 MB (stored outside for 7 years with no leaks)[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: where is the rot, electrolysis Reply #6 – August 15, 2009, 03:17:44 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104865Let's not get too carried away with the "dryness" of the PNW. The year we left Eugene Oregon we had already received 55 inches. That was mid-year. Our heavy shake wood roof (7 years old) was covered with thick, green moss. When we hired a guy to clean the sidewalk and driveway of the black mold so we could list the house, he shoveled up about 40 gallons of black mud. This was on a small, city lot, and the home was in the home show in 1992 when it was built. That's why we live in Arizona.Dick
Re: where is the rot, electrolysis Reply #7 – August 15, 2009, 03:26:37 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104866QuoteYou're giving away our secrets! People who don't live here think it rains all the time. Well, it DOES rain all the time! It's just that it drizzles rather than coming down in buckets. ;-) Earl was raised in Seattle, and I lived there for many years. When we got transferred around the country, people would ask us about Seattle weather. We started out by telling the truth: It rains during the winter, but summer is usually a great time of year. No one believed us. So Earl started telling everyone that in the 30-some odd years that he lived in Seattle, he was lucky to see the sun once a year. The response? "Oh, yeah, I've heard that about Seattle!"People believe what they want to believe, regardless of the truth.Linda Hylton http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
Re: where is the rot, electrolysis Reply #8 – August 15, 2009, 04:01:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104867You guys are pretty funny. I'm sitting here in Useless Bay on Whidbey Is. WA looking for our perfect L.D. (and think maybe the one in "files" etc., in Seattle could be it) having only lived here for a year and a half as recovering So. Californians. We don't even have webbed feet yet and loving it! Thanks for your input on the leaks and rot! It's encouraging. Holly of Holly and Howard
I love the NW Reply #9 – August 15, 2009, 04:09:45 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104868On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:40:52 -0700 (PDT), Rich Gort-W7JVL wrote:QuoteDon, you pick on the Great Northwest Not at all Rich. Did you read that I wrote:Quote[I love the NW, but I would not store an RV outside there] I lived on the Hood Canal way back in 1965. It was a dry summer, but when November came, so did the rain and it did not stop until after I left in February. I lived in rain gear. We have made three trips there since and plan to go again next year. On the last two trips, we spent over five months in Oregon. We have driven most every road in the state of Oregon - both the dry desert and the wet coast. Total rainfall is more elsewhere, but coastal areas in the NW have more mist, fog. Total rainfall may be less, but you get trace amounts a lot days. That's why the trees and flora are so outstanding.So we do love the NW, rain or shine. Right now we are loving the mountains around Silverton, CO.And Al, no worries about us moving there. Dorothy likes to see the grand kids too much.BTW, we cover KoKo when at home - rain in the winter, blazing heat and humidity in the summer.Cheers, Don
Re: where is the rot, electrolysis Reply #10 – August 15, 2009, 06:45:56 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104870Weather is a fun topic, and admittetly, Eugene is a pretty wet place. It is not as shielded from the Pacific Storms as most of the major cities of the Pacific Northwest are. The Coast range (Olympic Mountains here) takes the brunt of the rain for us, there is even a minor desert on the Olympic Peninsola near Sequim (pronounced Squim) not 75 miles from the the Hoh rain forest. That's why I picked bigger cities to make comparisons across the country. As far as the number of wet days go, Cleveland, Ohio wins that one with 156 with Portland (153) and Seattle (151) not far behind. Putting us back on topic, best to have inside storage for our LD's nomatter where we keep them.Rich Gort - 2000 MB - Birch Bay, WA
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