Newer model enhancements? January 28, 2008, 08:15:58 pm Yahoo Message Number: 88985I am about to buy a new 30' LD. What options have you found indispensible? Also any thought on 2007 vs. 2008? Thanks, Margaret
Re: Newer model enhancements? Reply #1 – January 28, 2008, 08:59:08 pm Yahoo Message Number: 88986"I am about to buy a new 30' LD. What options have you found indispensible?" If you use the Yahoo search button on this group's website to look for 'options', you'll find plenty of discussion and advice on this subject. Also, in the group's Files area (accessible via the text link on the left of every page), if you open the "Buying & Selling" folder you'll find a list of available options. (You may also want toy download the document "Lazy Daze factory tips: Motels, campgrounds, restaurants, car rental places and so on in the vicinity of the factory," which can be very useful when yo ugo to pick up your rig!)"Also any thought on 2007 vs. 2008?"In the Files > Lazy Daze Information folder you'll find a document called "LD models over the years" that lists, among other things, all known changes between 2007 and 2008 models.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: Newer model enhancements? Reply #2 – January 28, 2008, 09:47:56 pm Yahoo Message Number: 88990Quote "I am about to buy a new 30' LD. What options have you found indispensable?" MargaretMargaretOn my 30' the electric steps and two solar panels were the Number 1 & Number 2 priorities.Steve S. Lazy Bones & Jiggs
Newer model enhancements? Reply #3 – January 29, 2008, 02:52:34 pm Yahoo Message Number: 88999Electric control mirrors (hated the manual mirrors on our '99 RB), back up camera, manual satellite antenna (draw backs
Re: Newer model enhancements? Reply #4 – January 29, 2008, 03:01:59 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89000Quote Rather than have a telephone jack, I'd see if LD can rig an A/B switch so that you could also use an outside satellite dish for when in the woods. No need for an A/B switch...Lazy Daze will put in an outside hookup for a portable satellite dish. This isn't on their list of options (which is surprising, considering how many people travel with satellite TV these days), but they WILL do it if asked (we had the factory install it on our 2004 TK even though we also ordered the roof-mounted manual satellite dish).Linda Hylton http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin beds Reply #5 – January 29, 2008, 04:35:56 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89003Robert briefly mentioned the unpublicized 30' Twin Bed floorplan. I strongly urge you to take a close look at that model before you decide on the 30' Island Bed. Unfortunately, the factory has never had a 30' TB on the showroom floor--that's why I called it "unpublicized"--but if you can get an owner to show you theirs, you should. I know that a number of 30' Island Bed owners, upon seeing a Twin Bed for the first time, have said they would have bought the TB if only they'd known about it. On the other hand, I've never met a TB owner who wished they could switch to an IB. It's not easy to visualize rig interiors from the skimpy floorplans in the LD website (that's why we recommend visiting the factory or a get-together of one of the regional LD clubs), and the TB configuration has some advantages that aren't obvious until you set foot in one. First and foremost, the TB's rear space is much more usable during the day, because with the addition of a few throw pillows, the beds serve as pretty good couches. That means you're not dedicating one third of your coach solely to nighttime use.The TB's rear section also feels brighter and more open, perhaps because of the differing wardrobe locations and full-width back window. Admittedly this is an individual preference (after all, the IB has larger side windows in that section of the coach)... but that's my point: you really need to see a Twin Bed model first hand before you make up your mind.There are plenty of people who are happy with their 30' Island Bed rigs, and the Twin Bed layout may or may not be right for you... but you should at least check it out.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/ 1 Likes
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin beds Reply #6 – January 29, 2008, 07:45:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89004"Robert briefly mentioned the unpublicized 30' Twin Bed floorplan. I strongly urge you to take a close look at that model before you decide on the 30' Island Bed. . . .(after all, the IB has larger side windows in that section of the coach)..."Andy, Sorry to correct you but the rear side windows are identical in the TB and the IB (30ft). The back window is the only one that's different, and that is, as you pointed out, due to moving the closets forward in the Twin Bed.Kate http://cholulared.blogspot.com &http://www.cholulared.comWant to find us? Click below, we're #3096 http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=3096[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin beds Reply #7 – January 29, 2008, 08:56:57 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89005I have 3 pictures of the twin bed option and one diagram of the option on the 30 ft. Island Bed website. Just click the link below and go to the photos folder titled "Bedroom" , then go to the second page of thebedroom photos and you'll find them there.Here's the link: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/THE_LAZY_DAZE_30_FT_ISLAND_BED/If you're already a member of this group click this direct link:http://tinyurl.com/29z6mzJC
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin beds Reply #8 – January 29, 2008, 09:20:04 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89006JC,There's also a somewhat larger 30TB floorplan here http://www.cholulared.com/AboutCholulaRed/AboutCholulaRed.html or http://tinyurl.com/2zp9mvThis one shows a bit more detail. It's about halfway down on the page.Kate http://cholulared.blogspot.com &http://www.cholulared.comWant to find us? Click below, we're #3096 http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=3096
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin beds Reply #9 – January 29, 2008, 09:40:45 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89007"the rear side windows are identical in the TB and the IB (30ft)." I should know better than to argue, but the floorplan drawings on the LD site show the IB's side windows as 33% wider than those of the TB. So the floorplans are wrong, I take it? :: sigh :: I wish they'd put some decent 3-D cutaway floorplans on their site, the way other RV makers do.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin beds Reply #10 – January 29, 2008, 10:14:51 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89009I just looked online and it doesn't mention "not to scale" but when we got our brochures in 2005, it clearly stated "not to scale". Sorry for any confusion.Kate http://cholulared.blogspot.com &http://www.cholulared.comWant to find us? Click below, we're #3096 http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=3096[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin beds Reply #11 – January 29, 2008, 10:34:12 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89012Remember that those floorplans on the LD site specify that they are "NOT TO SCALE". This was proven to me when I looked at the walk around on the bed in the 26.5IB. On paper, it looked nice and roomy, but in real life, it's pretty tight.Kate http://cholulared.blogspot.com &http://www.cholulared.comWant to find us? Click below, we're #3096 http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=3096
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin bed window size Reply #12 – January 29, 2008, 10:45:07 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89014JC and Kate provided good links for the photos and floorplan of the 30'TB plan. The three bedroom photos are from our LD when it was new. I just went back to the bedroom, woke up my husband, and had him hold one end of the tape measure so I could measure the back window. It is (in the dark) 85"W X 27"H. The side windows are 47"W X 37"H.Bob said he hopes you appreciate this information.Sharon N.
[ Re: 30' island bed vs. twin bed window size Reply #13 – January 30, 2008, 08:50:49 am Yahoo Message Number: 89027Quote "JC and Kate provided good links for the photos and floorplan of the 30'TB plan. The three bedroom photos are from our LD when it was new.Quote I just went back to the bedroom, woke up my husband, and had him hold one end of the tape measure so I could measure the back window. It is (in the dark) 85"W X 27"H. The side windows are 47"W X 37"H.Quote Bob said he hopes you appreciate this information. "Sharon N. OK, we've had this discussion before so would someone with a 30' IB at home or being traveled in please measure those rear side windows so we can compare them to Sharon's IB measurements above and then post them here. Also, note in the floorplan link below that the rear TV location has now been moved to the nightstand by the rear window instead of using a flip-down table on one of the wardrobes. http://www.lazydaze.com/Floorplans/30tb.htm I can vouch for what Andy said; if we were buying a new 30' we would get the TB this time around for the reasons he mentioned. It's really not that far to "cross the aisle".Chris Horst 2002 30' IBArvada (Denver) CO
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin beds Reply #14 – January 30, 2008, 11:47:45 am Yahoo Message Number: 89030Hi Margaret, I'm not sure where you are located, but we have an '06 30' Twin-bed Anniversary edition. If you are anywhere around the S.F. bay area, we'd be happy to show it to you if you are interested.Mike S. 1 Likes
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin bed window size Reply #15 – February 15, 2008, 06:40:31 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89465Well, no one ever posted the 30' IB window sizes so I stopped by storage today and measured our 2002. The IB sizes are next to the ones Sharon posted below for the TB. My measurements are actual glass size; frame measurements would add about 1 1/2 inches in height or width. Interestingly, the side windows have about the same glass area in sq. inches (at least on the 2002s). The big difference is the larger rear window on the TB.ChrisQuote"I just went back to the bedroom, woke up my husband, and had him hold one end of the tape measure so I could measure the BACK WINDOW. It is (in the dark) TB 85"W X 27"H. (IB: 44 1/2" W X 24" H) The SIDE WINDOWS are: TB 47"W X 37"H. (IB: 50 1/2" W X 34" H)"Quote Sharon N.
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin bed window size Reply #16 – February 15, 2008, 08:33:36 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89469Thanks for clearing that up, Chris! So the 30' Twin Bed's side windows are almost 4" longer that the Island Bed model's--the factory's floorplan graphics are indeed correct--but they're 3" less tall. As you said, the big difference is in the Twin Bed's rear window, which is almost twice as wide as the IB's. That's why the TB's bedroom is so much brighter.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin bed window size Reply #17 – February 15, 2008, 08:57:28 pm Yahoo Message Number: 89470Quote Well, no one ever posted the 30' IB window sizes so I stopped by storage today and measured our 2002. The IB sizes are next to the ones Sharon posted below for the TB. My measurements are actual glass size; frame measurements would add about 1 1/2 inches in height or width. Interestingly, the side windows have about the same glass area in sq. inches (at least on the 2002s). The big difference is the larger rear window on the TB.Chris"I just went back to the bedroom, woke up my husband, and had him hold one end of the tape measure so I could measure the BACK WINDOW. QuoteIt is (in the dark) TB 85"W X 27"H. (IB: 44 1/2" W X 24" H) The SIDE WINDOWS are: TB 47"W X 37"H. (IB: 50 1/2" W X 34" H)"Sharon N. Quote "Thanks for clearing that up, Chris! So the 30' Twin Bed's side windows are almost 4" longer that the Island Bed model's--the factory's loorplan graphics are indeed correct--but they're 3" less tall. As you said, the big difference is in the Twin Bed's rear window, which is almost twice as wide as the IB's. That's why the TB's bedroom is so much brighter."Quote Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/ Andy, check my numbers again. The side windows in the IB are actually wider than the TB but the IB's side windows are not as tall - unless either Sharon or I measured wrong. Now I could make a mistake but I know Sharon couldn't! I was surprised when I compared the measurements because I thought the TB's side windows would be wider than the IB's. And, the floor plans on the LD site show the IB side windows graphically wider than the TB.I'm so damn glad we have this really important issue settled now so we can tackle the world's problems.Chris
Re: 30' island bed vs. twin bed window size Reply #18 – February 16, 2008, 12:11:52 am Yahoo Message Number: 89478"Andy, check my numbers again. The side windows in the IB are actually wider than the TB" You're right! I got confused and misread--shoulda just kept my mouth shut, instead of sowing more confusion. ;-)Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
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