Extender help December 11, 2007, 08:59:36 pm Yahoo Message Number: 87066All the valve extender talk leads me to ask the question: What are the different types of valve extenders...? We had planned a trip to Ridgecrest to seen the tireman, but the weather 2 weeks ago convinced us not to take her up there in high wind. This week we stopped in at Bob's RV in Hemet and he says he has a less expensive fix. I don't know enough to know what the options are and what is recommended. I have searched the archive and cannot find a simple explanation! Any help appreciated. By the way, we picked up in October and within the month had a follow up letter and questionairre from LD. I thought that was pretty good.Thanks for the help in advanceDeborah in IDY.
Re: Extender help Reply #1 – December 11, 2007, 09:16:38 pm Yahoo Message Number: 87068"deborah gmeiner" wrote: "All the valve extender talk leads me to ask the question: What are the different types of valve extenders...?"Deborah, this file (in the Files section of this message board) explains the differences:http://tinyurl.com/2ph4wt"This week we stopped in at Bob's RV in Hemet and he says he has a less expensive fix. I don't know enough to know what the options are and what is recommended."I have no idea what Bob's "less expensive fix" might be, but, IMO, the long valves (*not* "extenders") are the only way to go; the payback in convenience and ease of checking and airing the tires are well worth the cost."I have searched the archive and cannot find a simple explanation!"Well, I can't say how "simple" any explanations might be, but using the "searchable archive" link on the home page of the message board and plugging in "valve extenders", "long valves", "tire valves" or a few other search phrases will bring up more than you ever wanted to know about this topic. ;-)Joan
Re: Extender help Reply #2 – December 11, 2007, 09:22:47 pm Yahoo Message Number: 87069DeborahThere are 2 types. There are valve extenders and extended valves. As I understand it, a valve extender goes onto an existing tire valve (which may be metal or rubber). The extender itself may be metal or rubber or a braided material. What you have is a 2 piece system, the original valve and the extender. This leaves more room for failure. An extended valve is a one piece system, usually brass or metal that replaces the original valve in the tire, a one piece system with less room for failure. This is what the Tireman installs.Hope this helps (and I hope I explained it correctly)Kate http://cholulared.blogspot.com &http://www.cholulared.comWant to find us? Click below, we're #3096 http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=3096
Re: Extender help Reply #3 – December 12, 2007, 02:23:29 am Yahoo Message Number: 87075--- Kate Klein wrote: "There are 2 types. There are valve extenders and extended valves." Kate's explanation is clear as usual. Read Joan's msg# 81750 for another clear explanation. I'll just add links to photos (click on photos to enlarge). Valve extender: http://tinyurl.com/28zoafExtended valve: http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~tire-man/kit3_instructions.htmlAndrew 1999 23.5' TK, SF Bay Area
Re: Extender help Reply #4 – December 12, 2007, 08:40:55 am Yahoo Message Number: 87078Hey Kate, thanks for that explanation but how do these extenders/extended valves effect tire rotation? I've heard that tire rotation on a RV really isn't cost effective. Any input would be appreciated. TIA..............mike lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com, Kate Klein wrote:Quote DeborahThere are 2 types. There are valve extenders and extended valves.As I understand it, a valve extender goes onto an existing tire valve Quote(which may be metal or rubber). The extender itself may be metal or Quoterubber or a braided material. What you have is a 2 piece system, the Quoteoriginal valve and the extender. This leaves more room for failure.An extended valve is a one piece system, usually brass or metal that Quotereplaces the original valve in the tire, a one piece system with lessQuote > room for failure. This is what the Tireman installs.Hope this helps (and I hope I explained it correctly) >Kate > >http://cholulared.blogspot.com > & >http://www.cholulared.com >Want to find us? Click below, we're #3096 >http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=3096 >
Re: Extender help Reply #5 – December 12, 2007, 10:11:42 am Yahoo Message Number: 87079Quotehow do these extenders/extended valves effect tire rotation? I've heard that tire rotation on a RV really isn't cost effective. It makes it much more difficult. If the tires are to be rotated in the *normal* fashion, that would mean that the tires would have to be dismounted from the rim so that the extenders could be moved to a new tire. What you could do, if you were interested in rotating the tires is to just switch them from one side to the other; i.e., the two front tires would remain on the front, but on the opposite side...the same with the back tires. This way, the tire stems wouldn't have to be removed. However, I wouldn't worry about rotating the tires unless you see some really unusual wear...and, in that case, there's something wrong and you need to find out what the problem is. Since RV tires should be changed out around every 5 years regardless of how good they look, I personally think that rotating tires is a waste of time. YMMV.Linda Hylton http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
Re: Rotating Tires Reply #6 – December 12, 2007, 10:19:49 am Yahoo Message Number: 87080Quote "Hey Kate, thanks for that explanation but how do these extenders/extended valves effect tire rotation? I've heard that tire rotation on a RV really isn't cost effective. Any input would be appreciated. TIA..............mike" Mike, you will find differing opinions, but I'm with Joan; I don't rotate my tires as long as they continue to wear evenly.Chris
Re: Rotating Tires Reply #7 – December 12, 2007, 11:06:18 am Yahoo Message Number: 87082"Chris Horst" wrote:"I agree with Joan..." Chris, did you mean that you agree with *Linda*? Well, I do, too! I do rotate the front tires on the rig every few thousand miles, but not the rear duals; having the long stems mounted on the wheels does make rear dual rotation more time-consuming and expensive, and offers a tire guy all kinds of opportunity to screw up the valves. IMO, it's not necessary to rotate the rear duals *unless* there's an indication of unusual wear patterns. If there were any signs of abnormal wear, I'd try to find the underlying problem and correct it *before* rotating the rears. This web page shows common tire wear patterns: http://www.goodyeartires.com/kyt/maintainingATire/#3If someone does decide to rotate all 6 wheels/tires, be sure to have the tire guy follow the correct tire rotation pattern; many of them have no idea how a 6-wheel rotation should go. This page offers a diagram of the rotation order (scroll to "6 wheel..." and look at the "normal" diagram):http://tinyurl.com/2tpo6nOf course, it does little good to rotate tires that are showing a great deal of wear or are indicating a problem with alignment, imbalance, under/overinflation, whatever, if the problem *causing* the uneven wear isn't diagnosed and corrected. If the rear duals are wearing evenly (and show no unusual wear patterns on the treads or on the *sidewalls* that would indicate a problem), I suggest leaving them alone. ;-)Joan
Re: Extender help Reply #9 – December 12, 2007, 02:18:59 pm Yahoo Message Number: 87093"All the valve extender talk leads me to ask the question: What are theQuotedifferent types of valve extenders...?" I found that the flexible "extenders", sold by Lazy Daze, did work, but not well and were a hassle. They leaked and sometimes were difficult to inlfate. I think the one piece, all-metal "extended" valve stems are much better and worth the cost. I did not go to "The Tireman", since it seemed to be a long drive for such a simple fix. I went to Pete's Road Service, 2230 Orangethorpe, Fullerton, CA (714-446-1200) and they installed them for about $130 parts and labor, as I remember. I don't rotate my tires, it is not an issue. They work great and I recommend that type of valve. By the way, Pete's Road Service has a number of locations in SoCal and I am sure many tire stores have this type of valve stem. Good luck,Chris Hunter
Re: Extender help Reply #10 – December 12, 2007, 07:45:13 pm Yahoo Message Number: 87102Thank you all for the quick and helpful responses. I'll feel much better now about not rotating the rear tires. I may do the front but maybe not, I haven't decided on that yet.....................mike
Re: Rotating Tires Reply #11 – December 12, 2007, 08:18:40 pm Yahoo Message Number: 87104Quote "Hey Kate, thanks for that explanation but how do these extenders/extended valves effect tire rotation? I've heard that tire rotation on a RV really isn't cost effective. Any input would be appreciated. TIA..............mike"Mike, you will find differing opinions, but I'm with Joan; I don't rotate my tires as long as they continue to wear evenly.Chris I do rotate my tires once a year. I have the extenders that were sold at Lazy Daze. this makes it possible to rotate tires with no problem. Its just a matter of moving the extenders to the proper position. I'm on my second set of tires. When I bought the new tires, I replaced the extenders with new ones. No problems. I bought my tires from Discount tires and it included free rotation for four years. I take advantage of the offer. Tire wear is even all the way around. I do monitor the rotation very carefully and supervise the installation of the extenders.Ron in Ohio 2000 26' MB diesel
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