Fiamma Levelers Revisited May 01, 2006, 11:02:05 am Yahoo Message Number: 66165I am considering ordering a set of Fiamma levelers, specifically the Magnum System. I note on their website that they have a "Jumbo" System which is intended for the dual rear wheels. Has anyone any experience with the Jumbo Fiamma leveler? You can see it at: http://partners.fiamma.it/en/homeng.asp Click on English (Europe), Level Systems, Level Systems Jumbo.Chris Horst Denver
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #1 – May 01, 2006, 02:23:14 pm Yahoo Message Number: 66194Chris, For our rear duals it would take a ramp almost twice as wide as those are. I think those are made for the smaller tires of European RVs. The other problem is that the Fiamma's tend to slide forward on asphalt. Without a level area to stop on, it would be a lot harder to keep them from sliding.-- Jonna in Tortuga, 2001 Teal RB Find us MAPhttp://map.datastormusers.com/user2.cfm?user=1013> Follow the BLOG herehttp://www.baddog.com/blog/blog.html>
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #2 – May 01, 2006, 03:42:44 pm Yahoo Message Number: 66204"I note on [Fiamma's] website that they have a 'Jumbo' System which is intended for the dual rear wheels." The Jumbo ramps are only ten inches wide. I don't know what Fiamma thought these would be used for, but Jonna is correct in saying that on a Lazy Daze or other American vehicle, you'd still need one ramp per wheel! The Jumbos would work, but they'd be a waste of money. If you're buying Fiamma ramps, you want either Level System Magnum or Level Up--the ones labeled as being 20 cm. wide. The Level System Standard ramps are too narrow at 14.5 cm.--your tires' sidewalls will be damaged by hanging over the edges of the ramp. "The other problem is that the Fiamma's tend to slide forward on asphalt." I ran into that problem once or twice. I solved it by buying a cheap rubber doormat at Wal- Mart--the kind with big lugs molded into it--and cutting it into 9"-wide strips that fit under each ramp. Put the lug side downward, set the ramp on top and drive onto it--no more skidding problems! And the strips roll up pretty compactly for storage.Andy BairdCity of Rocks State Park, NM
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #3 – May 02, 2006, 01:59:09 am Yahoo Message Number: 66242Quote I am considering ordering a set of Fiamma levelers, specifically the Magnum System. I note on their website that they have a "Jumbo" System which is intended for the dual rear wheels. Has anyone any experience with the Jumbo Fiamma leveler? You can see it at: http://partners.fiamma.it/en/homeng.asp Click on English (Europe), Level Systems, Level Systems Jumbo.Chris Horst Denver Chris -We also have the Fiamma Level Up Plus levelers. They each are 20 cm wide which is just wide enough for one LD tire. As the others have said, the Jumbos at 26 cm would not be nearly wide enough. BTW, we purchased our Fiammas levelers and chocks through Nolan's RV there in Denver. Nolan's orders them from Coast catalog: http://www.go-rv.com/coast/do/catalog/page?dealerId=338&pageNum=482Bob White 2004 26 RK Albuquerque
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #4 – May 02, 2006, 09:16:58 am Yahoo Message Number: 66247QuoteThe Jumbo ramps are only ten inches wide. I don't know what Fiamma thought these Quotewould be used for, but Jonna is correct in saying that on a Lazy Daze or other AmericanQuotevehicle, you'd still need one ramp per wheel!The Jumbos would work, but they'd be a waste of money. If you're buying Fiamma ramps, Quoteyou want either Level System Magnum or Level Up--the ones labeled as being 20 cm. Quotewide. The Level System Standard ramps are too narrow at 14.5 cm.-- your tires' sidewallsQuotewill be damaged by hanging over the edges of the ramp."The other problem is that the Fiamma's tend to slide forward on asphalt."Quote I ran into that problem once or twice. I solved it by buying a cheap rubber doormat at Wal- QuoteMart--the kind with big lugs molded into it--and cutting it into 9"-wide strips that fit Quoteunder each ramp. Put the lug side downward, set the ramp on top and drive onto it--no Quotemore skidding problems! And the strips roll up pretty compactly for storage.Quote Andy Baird City of Rocks State Park, NM Yes, after I did the conversion into inches I realized they are too narrow. Think I'll order the Magnums - and thanks for the tip on the anti-skid doormat, Andy.Chris
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #5 – May 02, 2006, 10:18:34 am Yahoo Message Number: 66252"Chris Horst" wrote: Think I'll order the Magnums - and thanks for the tip on the anti-skid doormat, Andy. --- Chris, from my experience with "wedge" levelers, putting a non-skid doormat strip under the leveler will usually work on pavement, but the leveler will still usually "scoot" on gravel, with or without a non- skid strip. Lynx levelers (not the yellow cheapos from CW that crack and split) are a only a tiny bit more "work" to stack and line up, but they stay where they're placed and don't need to be blocked. YMMV.Joan
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #6 – May 02, 2006, 11:07:19 am Yahoo Message Number: 66255Quote "The other problem is that the Fiamma's tend to slide forward on asphalt." I place my Fiamma Level up ramps on a 2 x 10 board slightly longer that the ramp and beveled at one end with a screwed and glued piece of 1 x 1 on the other end to act as a stop. Once the tire hits the beveled plank the board does not skid and ramp will not move because of the block at the other end, Plus, another 2" of height from the plank. Has worked well so far.Joe Hamm
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #7 – May 02, 2006, 11:28:34 am Yahoo Message Number: 66256Fiamma sells a non skid attachment for the level up ramps that I am thinking about getting. They are small pieces of the same plastic that attach to the front of the levels. Usually what will work for us is to put one of the lynx levelers in front of the Fiamma but on gravel it's really tough.-- Jonna in Tortuga, 2001 Teal RB Find us MAPhttp://map.datastormusers.com/user2.cfm?user=1013> Follow the BLOG herehttp://www.baddog.com/blog/blog.html>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #8 – May 02, 2006, 01:01:02 pm Yahoo Message Number: 66262"Chris, from my experience with 'wedge' levelers, putting a non-skid doormat strip under the leveler will usually work on pavement, but the leveler will still usually 'scoot' on gravel, with or without a non-skid strip." My experience has been different--perhaps because of the doormat I chose, which has big, aggressive lugs. I'm parked on a sand/gravel mix right now, and the mat strips worked fine with my Fiamma Levelup ramps. I agree that Lynx levelers also work well, and they do give you more flexibility than ramps. On the other hand, they take up more storage space per inch of height gained--because with leveling blocks, you must essentially build a two-way ramp for each tire, so the bulk of the blocks required to reach a given height is roughly twice the bulk of an equivalent-height ramp. It's a trade-off, as with many things. :-)Andy BairdCity of Rocks State Park, NM
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #9 – May 02, 2006, 01:56:11 pm Yahoo Message Number: 66270wrote: ".... which has big, aggressive lugs." ---- I've known a couple of those in my time!Joan
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #10 – May 02, 2006, 05:20:23 pm Yahoo Message Number: 66275Quote From: "Chris Horst" To: Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:59 AM Subject: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Fiamma Levelers RevisitedI am considering ordering a set of Fiamma levelers, specifically the Magnum System. I note on their website that they have a "Jumbo" System which is intended for the dual rear wheels. Has anyone any experience with the Jumbo Fiamma leveler? You can see it at: http://partners.fiamma.it/en/homeng.asp Click on English (Europe), Level Systems, Level Systems Jumbo.Chris Horst Denver-- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited Reply #11 – May 02, 2006, 06:26:50 pm Yahoo Message Number: 66284QuoteI am considering ordering a set of Fiamma levelers, specifically the Magnum System. I note on their website that they have a "Jumbo" System which is intended for the dual rear wheels. If you get these, I think what you want is the Jumbo rather than the Magnum...I'm not sure the Magnum is wide enough to support the entire footprint of the tires on your LD. What we got was the Level Up Plus (Item 97901-33) and the chocks (Item 97901-046). They have a higher rise that either the Magnum's or the Jumbo's.Linda Hylton2004 Red 23.5' TK http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited - to Bob White Reply #12 – May 06, 2006, 05:47:11 pm Yahoo Message Number: 66422Quote Chris -We also have the Fiamma Level Up Plus levelers. They each are 20 cm wide which is just wide enough for one LD tire. As the others have said, the Jumbos at 26 cm would not be nearly wide enough.BTW, we purchased our Fiammas levelers and chocks through Nolan's RV there in Denver. Nolan's orders them from Coast catalog: http://www.go-rv.com/coast/do/catalog/page? dealerId=338&pageNum=482Quote Bob White 2004 26 RK Albuquerque Bob, thanks for the tip. I now remember you mentioned Nolan's before. I picked up two sets of Level Ups yesterday. As someone mentioned, they give the most lift of any of the Fiammas.Chris Horst Denver2002 30' IB
Re: Fiamma Levelers Revisited - to Bob White Reply #13 – May 06, 2006, 11:58:48 pm Yahoo Message Number: 66430QuoteChris -We also have the Fiamma Level Up Plus levelers. They each are 20 cm wide which is just wide enough for one LD tire. As the others have said, the Jumbos at 26 cm would not be nearly wide enough.BTW, we purchased our Fiammas levelers and chocks through Nolan's RV there in Denver. Nolan's orders them from Coast catalog: http://www.go-rv.com/coast/do/catalog/page? dealerId=338&pageNum=482Bob White 2004 26 RK AlbuquerqueBob, thanks for the tip. I now remember you mentioned Nolan's before. I picked up two sets of Level Ups yesterday. As someone mentioned, they give the most lift of any of the Fiammas.Chris Horst Denver 2002 30' IB Chris, glad to hear it worked out.Bob White 2004 26 RK Albuquerque
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