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Tire Brand Question
Yahoo Message Number: 47935
Can someone tell me the brand of tire that comes on the 2005 model

year chassis I forget.

Thanks

JC
Re: Tire Brand Question
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Yahoo Message Number: 47937
Both the 2004 and the 2005 Ford E-450 MH cutaway chassis I have seen on the showroom floor at the LD factory have been equipped with Michel
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Yahoo Message Number: 47944
Steve,

Thank you for replying to my question, as well as for the added

information you provided. I had a senior moment and just couldn't

remember what kind they were.

Thanks again

JC
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Yahoo Message Number: 47952
I certainly like Michelins as you do, and for many more years, but I recall an earlier discussion here pointed out that Michelin recommended another tire for RVs.  They did not recommend against using LTXs on RVs, just no recommendation for.

Or did I remember something before it happened?  Again? :)

best,  paul
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Yahoo Message Number: 47954
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I certainly like Michelins as you do, and for many more years, but I recall an earlier discussion here pointed out that Michelin recommended another tire for RVs.  They did not recommend against using LTXs on RVs, just no recommendation for.

Or did I remember something before it happened?  Again? :)

best,  paul
My research, and that by others, strongly indicated that an all steel tire was the best overall choice for an RV. The Michelin LTX is not an all steel tire. In addition, the recent Consumers Report study on LT/SUV tires rated the LTX rather poorly. Based on these two facts, I decided against the LTX as a replacement tire. The Michelin XPS-Rib is all steel tire as well as the Goodyear Unisteel Series & 647 RSA.
The Goodyear tires are made in America plus the RSA tire is formulated specifically for RV use.
Hence my personal choice.

As always, your mileage may vary.

Ed
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Yahoo Message Number: 47955
My research, and that by others, strongly indicated that an all steel tire was the best overall choice for an RV. The Michelin LTX is not an all steel tire. In addition, the recent Consumers Report study on LT/SUV tires rated the LTX rather poorly. Based on these two facts, I decided against the LTX as a replacement tire. The Michelin XPS-Rib is all steel tire as well as the Goodyear Unisteel Series & 647RSA.
The Goodyear tires are made in America plus the RSA tire is formulated specifically for RV use. Hence my personal choice.

As always, your mileage may vary.

Ed

Hi Ed,
 A certain individual who owns a tire business just south of China Lake NAS believes that the Goodyear 159 is the best choice and uses it on his own SOB RV. This is his own opinion, his recommendation to me and I am not suggesting that his choice is the correct one for anyone else.
 For info on this tire: http://tinyurl.com/6ysp2

Peace, NH Paul
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Yahoo Message Number: 47967
Aspect ratio refers to the width of the tire at its widest point which is not the same as the width of the contact patch (the footprint of the tread on the pavement).  The widest part of the tire is somewhere
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Yahoo Message Number: 47969
Interesting stuff, Ed.  I would love to read that Consumer's Report article.  I would like to know what criteria they used.

Admittedly, my usage may differ from others.  The LTX will provide superior traction in snow compared to the XPS Rib.  My LD makes frequent visits to Mammoth Mountain, CA, so I have that need.  If I were not taking my LD to the snow, I would definitely give the XPS a long look.  My experiences with the LTX M/S on a 3/4-ton Suburban and a 4X4 Jeep G.C. have been outstanding.  A motorhome is a different animal, however.

I suspect a LD with its inherent lower profile/lower center of gravity and balanced layout will not be adversely affected by a non- all-steel tire the way a top-heavy class A would.
 Lastly, that Ford supplies their E-450 MH cutaway with the LTX as OE speaks volumes to me, especially after the bloodbath they took over the Firestone Wilderness A/T.  No knock on the XPS Rib, however, but I suspect they are heavier.  Check out Michelin's website to compare their different models side-by-side.
 Believe me, I will gladly swap my Goodyear G159's with 90% tread for anyone's comparable LTX's.

Certainly, there are LD owners out there who have real world experience with the LTX - what can you add?

-Steve '98 26.5' MB

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My research, and that by others, strongly indicated that an all steel tire was the best overall choice for an RV. The Michelin LTX is not an all steel tire. In addition, the recent Consumers Report study on LT/SUV tires rated the LTX rather poorly. Based on these two
facts, I
 
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decided against the LTX as a replacement tire. The Michelin XPS- Rib is all steel tire as well as the Goodyear Unisteel Series & 647
RSA.
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Yahoo Message Number: 47976
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A certain individual who owns a tire business just south of China Lake NAS believes that the Goodyear 159 is the best choice and uses it on his own SOB RV. This is his own opinion, his recommendation to me and I am not suggesting that his choice is the correct one for anyone
else.

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For info on this tire: http://tinyurl.com/6ysp2

Hi, Paul:
Personally, I would prefer the 657 over the 159, because of it's M+S thread pattern. The 159 will possibly get a little higher mileage, or be a little more silent, but certainly the 657 would give me more peace of mind when not in "highway, sunny days" situations. Take a look at the threads of both models, at Goodyear's site.

Wishing you the best,

Eudoro
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Yahoo Message Number: 47984
Probably the best way to get good info. on Michelins is to go directly to their RV Customer Service dept for RV information. When I did that this last spring for my '95  23 1/2 FL, I was replacing the original (9 yr.old) 225/75/16 load range E LTX (All Season - not Mud and Snow)Michelins. The Michelin RV Rep was very specific: The only tires my size that they recommend for RV's is the LTX All Season and the XPS steel belts. They specifically do not recommend the M/S, and this is the one that Consumers tested and found to have a longer braking distance. My impression at the time was that Michelin most strongly recommends the XPS for RV's, but was not very specific about it.

When we purchased our LD in 95 I did the weight calculations and determined that the LR D tire would carry the load with considerable weight to spare. I believed that tire would give a softer ride than the E range. But Ed said that they only order "E" and if the tires are inflated by weight according to the inflation table, the ride does not suffer.  I think he was right. My personal experience with Michelins on three different vehicles is that they ride well, wear well, and hold air better than some other brands I've used.

By the way, I'm not advocating 9 year tire life for RV's. My 95 FL lives in the moderate San Francisco Bay area and with low miles, may have accounted for my original's long life - Les Bowers
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Yahoo Message Number: 47987
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"...but don't the Michelin LTX series have a lower profile than the XPS Michelins?  Would that be a problem
with the rear tires touching/rubbing together?"

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Bill H.
Bill,

I'm not a tire expert and others may have a different preception of your question but FWIW I'd say that a given aspect ratio on one brand of tire would be the same as that on another, given that they were the same size. (Manufacturers tolerances not withstanding).
 I just happen to use the Michelin XPS Rib and have had probably 3 or 4 sets on two different vehicles, the current one a Ford E-350 Club Wagon. I like the tire, it has served me quite well and if I had a complaint it would be in the stopping distance on wet streets.

My XPS Ribs are not LT225s however, but rather LT245/75R16s. They are about an inch taller than the LTXs. When the day comes to trade the new LTXs on Lazy Bones I will seriously consider replacing them with the XPS Rib in an appropriate size.

Steve S.
Lazy Bones
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
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Yahoo Message Number: 47995
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Believe me, if Ford supplies its E-450 MH cutaway with Michelin LT225/75R16 LTX M/S L.R. E tires as OE, they have engineering that combination to work.  Although I am not the biggest fan of Ford, I would put much more faith in their engineers than in any tire store salesperson.  Enough said.

-Steve '98 26.5' MB
Steve, I also use and like Michelin tires. But it would be prudent to remember those same Ford engineers had a part in the Firestone tire fiasco, especially setting the tire pressure settings for the Explorer lower then the that called for by Firestone. If you call Michelin they will probably tell you they do not recommend the LTX for RV use. That's what they told me several years ago. Our 04 LD has the LTX tires, and they ride and track just great, but I don't like the fact that the manufacturer will not recommend their use on an RV. So personally, I've become even more paranoid in assuring correct air pressures and doing visual inspections.
My next set of LD tires will be XPS RIB. I went through two sets of XPS RIB tires previously on our earlier LD, and they provided excellent service and performance in all catagories. Other brands may do just as well, but as you have mentioned, there are other attributes worth considering.
Tom.