Valve Stems December 01, 2004, 09:24:37 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47180*Reading the LD digest There is allot of talk regarding Borg and Tireman and thought I would add my two cents. Tireman created the stems and installs them. Borg just sells them. So when Ford changes things the person who does the installs is the first to know. Since Borg has broken the agreement with Tireman I don't think they will find out what changed from him. Tireman went into an agreement with Borg, because Borg had the contacts in China to have them manufactured. Tireman was to handle the RV customers, and Borg could have everyone else. Borg has broken the agreement and from what I have heard has advertised in the RV community. On top of busting the agreement they are also marketing the product for a couple bucks less. To me this is bad business! When we were there I watched Chuck do the install and there is a few things he did not tell Borg. Thirty years ago I use to sell tires and I saw how they were installed. Tireman takes a few extra steps to insure there will be no problems with his product. Who do you want working on your RV some guy who gets paid by the hour to install something you bring him.... Or the guy who invented it and can adapt the product to the changes. I am not selling this product or get any kick backs for promoting his product. Someone also asked how to get in touch with the tireman so I added that information.The Tireman http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~tire-man/default.html STORE LOCATION: 517 W. Inyokern Rd. - Ridgecrest, CA 93555* *STORE HOURS: Monday-Friday 8:00am-6:00pm, Saturday 9:00am-3:00pm* *PHONE: (760) 446-3546* *E-MAIL: tire-man@...>*
Re: Valve Stems Reply #1 – December 01, 2004, 09:30:18 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47181Tireman was to handle the QuoteRV customers, and Borg could have everyone else. Borg has broken the agreement and from what I have heard has advertised in the RV community.QuoteOn top of busting the agreement they are also marketing the product forQuotea couple bucks less. I contacted Borg a couple months back and they put me in touch with Tireman to buy my stems. I then bought my stems from Tireman. Don't know where you are getting your info but that is my experience.DaveRuby the red 04 RK
Re: Valve Stems Reply #2 – December 01, 2004, 09:52:27 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47183Don't know where you are getting your info but that is my experience.Dave Ruby the red 04 RKYeah, Dave, there is some "history" between Borg and The Tireman that doesn't need rehashing here.I'm still happy I went to Ridgecrest as I enjoyed meeting the Carvitto's and their poodles (Sue says poor Mikey's lost now that Danny's gone), having our picture taken for the Tireman LD scrapbook, the drive up and back and I am driving with complete confidence that my tire pressures are just right. I got the steel valves, the metal extensions, air-through caps on the rear and metal caps on the front.I did post some pix of the shop and master in the photos section.Paul
Re: Valve Stems Reply #3 – December 01, 2004, 09:56:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47184I got my information straight from the horses mouth... I could have went further with the attorney stories that Chuck told me, but why. Call Chuck ask him yourself. He is Tireman. I am not hear to argue or dampen anybodys day. Read other posts where Borg sold them the stems and suggested they go to Petes to have them installed? IMHO after watching him and talking to him I would not go anywhere else.
Re: Valve Stems Reply #4 – December 01, 2004, 10:01:34 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47185Hey Paul, we saw your picture
Re: Valve Stems Reply #5 – December 01, 2004, 10:17:37 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47186Quote Hey Paul, we saw your picture in the scrape book. So did you give Chuck a penny. You are right he is the master. , having our picture taken for the Tireman LD > I did post some pix of the shop and master in the photos section.Paul Ah Jim, don't jinx me now. No "scrapes" yet on Polliwog. I must have missed the penny story. What's that all about?Paul
Re: Valve Stems Reply #6 – December 02, 2004, 10:04:26 am Yahoo Message Number: 47195Quote from: Jim Sedillos"So did you give Chuck a penny. Ah Jim, don't jinx me now. No "scrapes" yet on Polliwog. I must have missed the penny story. What's that all about?Paul Ooopps!!! Sorry! When we were there and the work was all done and we were getting ready to leave. He asked me for a penny. ? ? ? ? Okay I handed him a penny and he gave me a pocket knife, and said something about can't give something away for free. I thought this was worth far more than a penny. So I gave him something a friend of mine invented and sells them at the RV shows. A gift for a gift and we went on our way. He is really a nice guy, just wish he didn't charge so much to install the extended stems.
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Valve Stems Reply #7 – December 02, 2004, 10:15:44 am Yahoo Message Number: 47197At 04:00 PM 12/2/2004 +0000, you wrote:QuoteHe asked me for a penny. ? ? ? ? Okay I handed him a penny and he gave me a pocket knife, and said something about can't give something away for free. My grandmother would never give a person a knife without asking for a penny in return. It had something to do with knives in particular...not being able to cut you if you paid for them with a penny. She told me it was an old Scots tradition.Sonsie
Asking for a penny Reply #8 – December 02, 2004, 11:31:18 am Yahoo Message Number: 47199I found this on digsmagazine.com: "As for the knife, the folk lore goes like this: if you give a knife to a friend, the recipient is supposed to give you a penny as a symbolic gesture to avoid cutting the friendship. But, you're also not supposed to give knives as housewarming presents to your neighbors, because superstition says it'll make the new neighbor your enemy."Interesting...Joyce1981 20' "Maeve"
Re: Valve Stems Reply #9 – December 02, 2004, 11:58:10 am Yahoo Message Number: 47200Quote I got my information straight from the horses mouth... I could have went further with the attorney stories that Chuck told me, but why. QuoteCall Chuck ask him yourself. He is Tireman. I am not hear to argue or dampen anybodys day. Read other posts where Borg sold them the stems and suggested they go to Petes to have them installed? IMHO after watching him and talking to him I would not go anywhere else. Quote I contacted Borg a couple months back and they put me in touch with Tireman to buy my stems. I then bought my stems from Tireman. Don't Quoteknow where you are getting your info but that is my experience.DaveRuby the red 04 RKInteresting! I did talk with Chuck a couple times in the process of buying from him. I don't remember whether I told him that Borg referred me to him or not.Dave
Re: Valve Stems Reply #10 – December 02, 2004, 12:26:51 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47202QuoteInteresting! I did talk with Chuck a couple times in the process of buying from him. I don't remember whether I told him that Borg referred me to him or not.Dave Some of his customers even showed mag's with Borg's advert. Chuck has contacted a Patient Attorney and is going back and forth with Borg on unit prices. Everything talkes time. I wish Chuck the best and hope he secures what is his.
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Valve Stems Reply #11 – December 02, 2004, 03:45:26 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47209Oh please, pullleeeze, could we put the Tireman/Borg/valve stems/valve extenders/donut posts to rest. Pretty PLEASE!Thanks, Lorna
Re: Valve Stems Reply #12 – December 02, 2004, 10:21:29 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47221Quote from: Jim Sedillos" He asked me for a penny. ? ? ? ? Okay I handed him a penny and he gave me a pocket knife, and said something about can't give something away for free. I thought this was worth far more than a penny.Oh Gee! I wish I had known about that tradition. When he gave me my knife it really surprised me and my response was thanks. Nice work, Paul!Paul
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Valve Stems Reply #13 – December 02, 2004, 10:27:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47222QuoteOh please, pullleeeze, could we put the Tireman/Borg/valve stems/valveQuoteextenders/donut posts to rest. Pretty PLEASE!Thanks, Lorna Sure, Lorna. What would you like to talk about?Paul
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Valve Stems Reply #14 – December 02, 2004, 10:41:28 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47223Quote from: Lorna DunhamOh please, pullleeeze, could we put the Tireman/Borg/valve stems/valve extenders/donut posts to rest. Pretty PLEASE!Thanks, LornaSure, Lorna. What would you like to talk about?Paul How about "Healing Flowers"? (Sorry, the devil made me say it)Chris
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Valve Stems Reply #15 – December 03, 2004, 01:11:51 am Yahoo Message Number: 47225We have encountered the Borg ......... valve stems that is.Resistance is Futile ! You will be assimilated !I couldn't help myself, he he !JC
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Valve Stems Reply #16 – December 03, 2004, 10:40:12 am Yahoo Message Number: 47230Quote Oh please, pullleeeze, could we put the Tireman/Borg/valve stems/valve extenders/donut posts to rest. Pretty PLEASE!Thanks, LornaAMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN Eudoro "bored to death" Lemos, Jr.
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Valve Stems Reply #17 – December 03, 2004, 11:36:17 am Yahoo Message Number: 47233Chris Just want you to know that you made my day! I even woke up in the middle of the night and started laughing. Even as I write this, you are making me smile.Pat (Mac) No Cal. Thanks..............
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Valve Stems - Healing Flowers Reply #18 – December 03, 2004, 09:01:50 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47264Quote Oh please, pullleeeze, could we put the Tireman/Borg/valve stems/valve extenders/donut posts to rest. Pretty PLEASE!Thanks, LornaSure, Lorna. What would you like to talk about?PaulHow about "Healing Flowers"? (Sorry, the devil made me say it)Chris HE HE HE HE! You're a bad boy!Dave
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Valve Stems Reply #19 – December 03, 2004, 09:27:16 pm Yahoo Message Number: 47265Yeah, I have a one-cult maximum and I already belong to the Lazy Daze cult. The Tireman cult is not for me, I know there are always two sides to any disagreement. I've heard quotes from him on this forum that I felt were just wrong and some of his requirements in the early days were not what I will accept from someone I'm paying money to. This leads me to believe that his statements require salt of various proportions. I bought the stems from Borg, had them installed when and where I wanted and went on about my business. They work great. It's not rocket science.Jonna, in Guadalajara
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