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My "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the End Cap" Project
After many months of worry and reading up on how-tos, I finally decided to take on sealing the end caps yesterday. I have done numerous caulking jobs in the past, so I’m not sure why I was so nervous about this project, other than the fear the caps could crack or break.

So I printed out the LD Companion steps, read and and re-read them, got all my supplies together and set off from home. The rig is parked remotely, so I had to make sure I had everything with me before I left. I didn’t do too badly in this regard, I only bought a caulking gun.

To the supplies list on the Companion, I would only add or confirm what helped me:

•   Air compressor (to blow out any debris)
•   10oz tube of 5200 Fast cure (much more than enough, but I didn’t know at the time how much I’d need)
•   Painters tool & a putty knife
•   A caulking gun (depending)
•   Stainless steel screws & drill
•   Brake cleaning fluid – maybe overkill, since I also used a compressor, but for $3 more, why not?

I ended up not using the DAP 3.0 crystal clear sealant on the colored area - I wasn’t troubled by the thin line of white that the 5200 left in the blue sections. I brought clamps, thinking I could use them at least up near the cab, but there’s no way to do that, so I went with stainless steel screws of various lengths, ¾” to 1.5”).

The prep work was pretty easy, I started on the driver’s side end cap next to the cab because there was a good amount of separation which gave me space to work and see what was underneath. I didn’t get it all the sealant but I got enough so the new stuff would adhere to the surfaces. I used an acetone-soaked cloth wrapped around a putty knife to clean out the area as good as possible and finished it off with the brake cleaning fluid that’s mentioned in the Companion.

After I cleaned the first area, I went to the rear end caps which is what I had been afraid of for so long. I did the same cleaning steps, using a razor knife, putty knife, acetone soaked putty knife and scraped as much as I could. I didn’t think to have a rag handy to catch drips when spraying the brake cleaner so it ran down the side of the end cap and appeared to stain it. I wiped it off as quickly as possible with acetone and a rag, but probably not fast enough. Other than that, prep work went well.

Now I was nearly ready to start with the 5200 sealant. I had gone through the steps in my head because I wanted to work as efficiently as possible. Plus it was hot and the layers of nitrile gloves were dripping sweat pretty early in the process. It was about this time I realized I had left the caulking gun at home.

With my new $5 caulking gun, I taped off my work areas (I could have done this before I started but didn’t). On the front end cap I pre-drilled two holes thinking they would be enough to secure the end cap. I underestimated by 4 screws. I wish I had thought through their placement sooner, but I was already in progress with an open tube of sealant.

I moved to the back and began work on the area that gave me the greatest amount of fear. It actually didn’t go too badly at all. I had a spot up at the top of the coach that had considerable separation and I was able to fill it and pop in a screw. I’ll cover it with Eternabond next. I added screws as shown in the photos – I hope the LD community isn’t too horrified at how I defaced her with the screws. In my defense, there were already screws in other parts of the end caps, so I wasn’t the first one to do this. Not sure if this was done by the factory when it was built or sometime thereafter. Instead of removing the screws, I think I will be painting over them once I can get some matching paint. Here’s hoping they don’t crack the end caps, which may be the reason that I should remove them and fill in the holes. Any thoughts from the community on this are appreciated. I sank the screws in (not too snugly) only after I had filled the gaps with sealant to ensure that they would have sealant on the threads.

I went back today to take a look at it and I don’t feel too terribly about it. I’ve included some before and after photos of how it looks.

Long story short, it’s not the most professional-looking job, but it should stop water intrusion, which is the goal. I think I’m satisfied enough with the result. I probably wouldn’t do this on a 90 degree day either, but I was also wanting to get the project checked off the list.

I used a good deal of 5200 on the front end cap, if I hadn’t needed to do this, I would have gotten the small tube. I think I only used 2/3 of the 10 oz tube, which cost $25. All in all, a pretty low-cost, not-overly complex project.

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2003 MB
Formerly 1997 TK

 
Re: My "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the End Cap" Project
Reply #1
screws are fine, the job looks really well done, and motivating for me to do the same.

did you remove the end cap all the way, or just lifted a bit to fill in with 5200?

I was planning on using 4200 on mine just to make it not super permanent in case more work is ever needed.........
1995 23.5 Rear Lounge

Re: My "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the End Cap" Project
Reply #2
Thanks for posting that, Ray! Detailed writeups like that are one of the best things about this group.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: My "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the End Cap" Project
Reply #3
screws are fine, the job looks really well done, and motivating for me to do the same.

did you remove the end cap all the way, or just lifted a bit to fill in with 5200?


I just lifted a bit, the end caps were generally in good shape, save those few spots. The “before” pix don’t show it that well.

Thanks,
Ray
2003 MB
Formerly 1997 TK

Re: My "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the End Cap" Project
Reply #4
Thanks for the detailed info and the great pics!
2016 Mid Bath

Re: My "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the End Cap" Project
Reply #5
I realize the original post is from 8 months ago, I’m hoping that I’m posting in right place. (I’ve been a member here but mostly reading other posters.
 I’ve been searching on site for info regarding similar issues.  I have yet to  locate information on removal of end caps both in rear and sides of can just behind seats. I have rotted wood and can not access; I believe taking side cab off will give me better view if nothing else. For today I’m just trying to ascertain if anyone has removed these side caps (running vertical) ? If so could you please tell me the best way to proceed and any tips on repairing wood rot on sub floor in corner behind passenger seat and there’sa piece of wood that appears to be a support running vertically at this corner. To be more precise the trouble is in wall and subfloo*
I can not see extent of damage as there is not any easy access point that I can see. I suspected issues here as all the telltale signs are present. Rusted out screws, terrible mildew smell ect.  I removed the booth that ran behind passenger seat. I could not use the storage under the booth seat even after treating multiple times installing fresh carpet and running dehumidifier. The  exterior storage compartment directly under is also unusable for same reason. I would greatly appreciate any tips, advice or shared experiences.
What I really need is a “restoration rescue party” I’m in rural Eastern TN Mts! (Smile) 
Thanks I’m advance for your time
Sonja
1997 27' ?

Re: My "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the End Cap" Project
Reply #6
Removing well-attached end caps usually ends up with a destroyed cap. I usually have bought new caps before attempting to repair rot damage under the caps. To remove the caps, I use an oscillating tool and a sharp chisel blade.
Rot damage in the floor is very difficult to repair, projects I never accepted, instead, suggesting the owner take the rig to the Mothership to determine is it can be repaired. Expect the cost to be thousands of dollars. Many times, the cost of the repair exceeds the value of the LD.
LDs were never designed to be taken apart. My suggestion is to remove the seat and start chopping the rot away and seeing what's left. It's going to be a long, nasty project, definitely not for beginners.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: My "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the End Cap" Project
Reply #7
Id I was to remove my endcaps again I would use more painters tape along the edges to help prevent scratching of the existing paint.  It took me quite some time to carefully remove them with razors, oscillating tool, chisels and putty knifes and still had a little damage.  I thought it was only a little corner damage but ended up replacing the entire back wall.  Still finishing up little touches putting it back together but it has been driveable for a few months.  Once the rain slows down and the kids are done with sports I'll finish and will post more pictures.  I will still need to do what the op, @East Bay Ray did in a few spots that seem to be a little light on sealant and a little paint to cover the scratches in the paint.
1997 TK

Re: My "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the End Cap" Project
Reply #8
Posted the OP article to The Companion
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