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Setting up the TST 507
Started doing this yesterday and had some questions for those that use this system.  Their customer service line is not available on Sunday so hoping I can find some answers here.  Had a little problem getting a couple of the sensors to work. Now all but one is working so may need to replace a battery.  Here are my questions:

1. I've only done the 6 tires for the RV so far and the numbering is straightforward but what is the best way to number the toad. Do you number them 7-10 or use the T numbers (see photo).  And if using the T numbers, which numbers do you use?

2. If one of my sensors is bad, how do I add a different one?

3.  For those with a Mid-bath, where did you mount the repeater?  Should it be on a switch so you can turn it off when parked?

Thanks, I'm sure I'll have a few more questions!

Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #1
I used the T (T for Trailer) labels. It is only used to keep yourself from getting confused about which sensor goes on which tire. For each sensor, I wrote down the label, the hex code, and which sensor is on which station, so that I could swap sensors without confusing myself.

You can enter any new sensor code for a specific station, in hex. The TST instructions help a lot: for which buttons to press, for how long, in what order.

I set my repeater on one of the shelves behind the TV in the bedroom. I easily tapped into 12V power there. I don’t bother turning it off. I had the toad rear and spare tires occasionally drop off reporting until I installed the repeater. No problem now.
2013 27’ Mid-Bath
2005 Honda CR-V

 
Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #2
In a recent discusion about repeaters, Mike Coachman had the best solution, mounting the repeater on the top interior corner of the rear window, with the power pulled from one of the overhead cabinet’s light fixtures.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #3
In a recent discusion about repeaters, Mike Coachman had the best solution, mounting the repeater on the top interior corner of the rear window, with the power pulled from one of the overhead cabinet’s light fixtures.

I’ve taken a look at trying to access one of the overhead cabinet lights but the cabinet bottom is secured with dozens of small staples so not sure how to remove them without destroying the wood material.

I was thinking of trying to tap into the switched 12v outlet near the TV.  I removed the outlet and it uses spade connectors and I don’t know how to tap into those.

Recall that I am pretty clueless with electrical things so any advice is appreciated as I’m struggling with how to proceed!

EDIT:  I was able to connect the repeater to the back of my little Bestek inverter (which is plugged into the switched 12v outlet so I know the repeater works.  The repeater came with ring terminals so I suppose I could just do that but then the inverter would need to be running all the time while driving.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #4
I mounted my repeater in the outside storage bin just aft of the battery compartment.  I ran the wire along with inline fuse into the battery box and connected to 12v there.  Easy and works well. 

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #5
I mounted my repeater in the outside storage bin just aft of the battery compartment.  I ran the wire along with inline fuse into the battery box and connected to 12v there.  Easy and works well. 

Thanks for that, Rich.  My battery compartment is just behind the driver seat and I think, ideally, the repeater should be further aft, especially when towing.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #6
The bottom of the overhead cabinets can be removed by prying them up, yes, there is a lot of staples.
Remove the staples with a pair of pliers, reattach the cabinet bottoms with round head wood screws or sheet metal screws.
Under the bottom of the cabinets, you will find the electrical wires used to power the lights, located under the cabinet.
This would be a good source of the minimal power used by the repeater.

Larry

Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #7
Well, I was able to kludge a temporary setup while determining the best location for the repeater.  It’s near the driver side back window but not attached to anything for now. My connections are pretty lame so I don’t expect them to last long term but hopefully will last until the end of our trip this Fall, then hopefully I’ll come up with a better solution. 

I was able to tap into the light switch so when the light is turned on, the repeater turns on. The wire connection is just twisted on and taped for now.  Any input is appreciated!
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #8
Greg,

I avoided the whole tapping into the 12 volt system and made a small AA 12 volt battery pack. Works perfectly fine and the batteries last a very long time.

Once in camp the repeater is turned off (saves battery life) The Tire Minder I use needs to run a connection check after being parked over night so there is no need to drain the AA’s for no reason. Just turn it back on and run the reconnection procedure 20 minutes before pulling out of camp.

Here’s a pic of my repeater/battery pack. I place it in the shelf just above the sink in our RB.

I’m very pleased with this set up.

Kent
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #9
Well, I was able to kludge a temporary setup while determining the best location for the repeater.  It’s near the driver side back window but not attached to anything for now. My connections are pretty lame so I don’t expect them to last long term but hopefully will last until the end of our trip this Fall, then hopefully I’ll come up with a better solution. 

I was able to tap into the light switch so when the light is turned on, the repeater turns on. The wire connection is just twisted on and taped for now.  Any input is appreciated!

You can run the wires inside the floor of the cabinet and then drill a hole and then bring the wires down behind the valance for a next to an invisible installation. Well twisted wires, wrapped with electrical tape, should suffice.
With a little imagination, most added wiring can be hidden.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

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Reply #10
I avoided the whole tapping into the 12 volt system and made a small AA 12 volt battery pack. Works perfectly fine and the batteries last a very long time.

Great idea, Kent!

Forgot to mention, took some time to figure it all out but got all 10 sensors programmed into the monitor.  Didn’t bother with doing the spare tires.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #11
As part of the YMMV crowd,  I never mounted or needed the repeater on my 31IB.  Once in a great while the signal is briefly lost from a sensor but it does not seem to be distance dependent.   The monitor picks up the signal from the tow'd , even in the middle bay of the 3 car garage with the rig on the side of the garage.

Gave up on the stickers.  Since the sensors are black,  I got a gray sharpie and labeled them my hand.   Tow'd ones are prefaced with a T.

Reprogramming new ones are straight-forward when actually reading the instructions.  ::)

joel
Joel & Terry Wiley
dog Zeke
2013  31 IB   Orwan   / 2011 CRV Tow'd LWEROVE

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #12
Forgot to mention, took some time to figure it all out but got all 10 sensors programmed into the monitor.  Didn’t bother with doing the spare tires.

I wish I could have helped, but I've only programmed the RV tires so far.  However, I'm going to the Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta and taking my tow CR-V so I'll do that before I leave.  I'm going to try it without the repeater, but if I need to I'll use Kent's "battery pack" idea.  A much easier fix for me since I don't have a "honey" to do my "honey do's!" 
Cheryl (a.k.a. Desert Diva)
1998 Lazy Daze (26.5 mid-bath)
2002 Honda CR-V

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #13
Regarding the repeater, I've heard some people do fine without it and others say they had an issue until they installed it. It may not be needed for shorter rigs such as ours but I decided to err on the side of caution, and since it challenged my electrical abilities, I figured I'd give it a try.  I do like the battery pack idea but think I would rather have it hard-wired, if possible.  As mentioned before, another easy way to hook it up is to connect to the terminals on a small inverter but then the (noisy) inverter needs to be running.

By the way, I found this video very helpful with the programming process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khPGuSrgIFs
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #14
Many TPMS work great without a repeater, when new, as the batteries in the pressure sensors age, dropped out sensors become more common. A repeater allows weaker batteries to continue to be useful, extending the time between replacements. More than one LD owner had added a repeater after a year or two, self-included.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #15
While I'm still trying to decide whether I'm going to "tuck tail" and return home, I'm still considering going to Quartzsite for the "Big Tent Shindig." 
However, I still haven't installed the repeater from my TST 507 TPMS.  I actually callled the company and spoke to a tech.  I explained my RV size and that I tow a car and he said to ABSOLUTELY install the repeater (that's why it's included in the package.  He went on to say that the best (and recommended) place to install the repeater is in the outside battery compartment attached to the house batteries.  He said the power it takes is "extremely" minimial" - especially since I have solar.  However, he said if one was concerned about the power draw in storage, just to pull the fuse.  He also mentioned that trying to alter/configure it in a different manner would void the warranty.
Therefore, I'm just going to install the repeater in the recommended spot and secure it to the side of the compartment using industrial strength Velcro. 
TechnoRV has a video using battery clamps, but I'm just going to do it the way the company recommends.


Cheryl (a.k.a. Desert Diva)
1998 Lazy Daze (26.5 mid-bath)
2002 Honda CR-V

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #16
Hi Cheryl;  I put my repeater in the back window, attached to the valance, the side facing the window. It has a clear view to your towed vehicle, but is nearly invisible. At night the red light can be seen through the window from outside. Inside it is hard to see unless you are sitting in the seat nearest the window, and stretch to see it.  I had already run power up into that cabinet (20+ years ago for an overhead light). I did put an on/off switch (lit) to remind me to turn it off and so I could see it from the drivers seat in the rear view mirror.  I often forget to turn it on but always get tire information. That may change as the transmitter batteries get closer to needing replacing.
   That cabinet has a false floor. Because I bought the factory rear view camera, the driver side half had screws holding it down. When I replaced my speakers many years ago, I had pulled out the staples then. To gain access to the inside cabinet floor you might need to pull staples. Those can be replaced by short screws for reinstallation of the floor. 
   TST's warranty says that the warranty is voided if you don't use the repeater, but I don't see why it would matter, or cause a problem if it works without it. If long distances are involved (your MB is 3' longer than my TK) I could anticipate that it might not work. Maybe a 45' DP with towed might have issues.   RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB

Re: Setting up the TST 507
Reply #17
Larry nailed my experience with the repeater helping more and more as the sensor batteries age. I put the repeater on the shelf behind the TV, where I picked up power.
2013 27’ Mid-Bath
2005 Honda CR-V