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Programming TST TPMS - Dazed and Confused...
As a retired teacher, I'm somewhat "amazed" that I'm having such an issue trying to determine what tire pressure I should run in the front tires and rear tires.  I have new 2020 Michelin Agilis CrossClimate tires - LT225/75/R16 115R E1 BSW that I purchased on 08/05/20.  I went NOWHERE (hip replacements and then COVID pandemic) and my RV sat in a storage facility with tire covers.  

Today, I went to the nearest tire store to have them checked and they put 65 PSI on the front and 70 PSI on the rear duallys.  I looked at my receipt for Discount Tire and when I asked them about tire pressure they recommended 65 in the front and 80 (!) in the rear.  However, looking at the chart that Kent referred to in a post I thought the maximum PSI was 83, but it looks like it's 90.  (Am I correct?)

I went ahead and had my RV weighed at Allied Van Lines here in Las Cruces as it was just down the street from my storage facility.  However, they would only weight the front, rear, and total weight - not each corner. 
Front:  3,920 pounds
Rear:  8,080 pounds
Total:  11,980 pounds

I'm only going to be traveling in New Mexico for the time being, but it's HOT here.  I think mostly I have driven my Lazy Daze with 65 PSI in the front and 75 PSI in the rear.  However, giving that information to the rep at TST today when trying to program my TPMS, he said for 65 PSI in the front the low pressure setting would be 58, and the high pressure setting would be 82, and the rear 75 PSI low pressure setting would be 67, and the high 95 (concerned that the max is 90 PSI!). 

Normally, I think of myself as an intelligent person but there seems to be more than one opinion.  Therefore, I'm deferring to you to guide me.

Am I OK to just leave the tires at 65 (front) and 70 (rear)?  Could/Should I increase the pressure?  Please don't judge as this is my first trip in about 1 1/2 years and I'm somewhat "nervous." 
Cheryl (a.k.a. Desert Diva)
1998 Lazy Daze (26.5 mid-bath)
2002 Honda CR-V

Re: Programming TST TPMS - Dazed and Confused...
Reply #1
Cheryl, per your numbers from the axle weighings,  your rig weighs pretty close to what my TK does when it’s loaded for the road. I run 65 in the fronts and 70 in the rears. You might try those inflation numbers as starting points and see how your rig drives/feels.
2003 TK has a new home

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Reply #2
Cheryl, per your numbers from the axle weighings,  your rig weighs pretty close to what my TK does when it’s loaded for the road. I run 65 in the fronts and 70 in the rears. You might try those inflation numbers as starting points and see how your rig drives/feels.

Thanks, I actually drove around town a bit today (no highway) and it felt fine to me.  I'm going to keep it at 65 and 70 and program the TPMS accordingly for the high and low pressure. 
Cheryl (a.k.a. Desert Diva)
1998 Lazy Daze (26.5 mid-bath)
2002 Honda CR-V

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Reply #3
Desert Diva

Cheryl - No one that I am familiar with on this site would ever be critical of you for your recent post.

You are amazing in what you have accomplished with your rig during these terrible times, and health issues.

Keep reaching out to all of us.  It is an absolute pleasure to read an honest fact filled request for answers.

You my dear person are an inspiration to us all.  And those of us who continue to learn from this site are truly grateful.

Most respectfully,

Tony R. (aka codefour)

life
Tony R
2010 LD RB - Sold to another happy LD Family

 
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Reply #4
Hi Cheryl;  TechnoRV has a series of videos on youtube dealing with 'how to program' the TST TPMS. I haven't watched them all yet, but it starts with this one:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ENxA58EtM&list=TLPQMDkwNzIwMjEDarJ0GwwgvA&index=1
  They sequence from there;  How to set ID locations, How to set high and low pressure and temperature, How to delete and add sensors, etc.  RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB

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Reply #5
I met Ken Fears a few times when out on trips, and we exchanged occasional personal messages on LD topics. He encouraged me to get a TPMS for my rig back in 2019, which I did. In late March of this year, I sent Ken a message asking for his advice on tire pressure and alarming on my TPMS prior to a trip to Florida. As always, he was generous with his knowledge and time. I'm sure if he were still with us he would have spoken up about this topic, so will share here my questions, and his replies.

I wrote to Ken: "I've read some people over-pressure their tires slightly (5 psi), in case of a small leak. It seems to me this may be okay if one were going to remain in the same ambient temperature range, but if one were going to be, as I will, driving into warmer climes, this could likely result in over-pressure at some point, having to let air out. When I check mine cold, (TPMS), if they're a few pounds low, I know when I start driving, the pressure's going to come up, so don't worry too much about that. My 23' is light, I don't carry much of anything other than us, clothes, food, and bikes. Starting with full water but everything else empty. How do you handle your tire pressure, what goes into your decisions?"

Ken's reply:  "I am running Michelins with a pressure limit of 80 PSI.  I contacted them about my 93 PSI reading (see below), and they said that was fine, that they take heating and expansion into consideration when they set the 80 psi limit.  They said to set it cold, within the tire limits, and not worry about it.  I accept that, sort of…" 

"My 27’ is loaded close to its limit on all 4 corners.  Per the Michelin chart, my front should be between 65 and 70, and the rears between 70 and 75.  So, running them at 70 and 75 is not much over the Michelin table.  So why do I run a little higher?  Handling. When I started traveling I went with 65 and 70, and I had a lot of lateral drift.  I was always doing micro-corrections.  At 70 and 75, my rig is much more stable."

I wrote to Ken: "My other question is about the TPMS system and alarming. I have my low pressure alarm set at 15%, this results in an 'alert' at 9%. If I increase to 20%, it alerts at 13%. I have the high pressure alarm set for 25%. I think I had it at 20%, but when driving in high ambient temperatures at highway speeds, I was getting occasional alarms. I run the front tires at 65 psi and the rears at 75 psi."

Ken's reply: "Let’s do the easy one first - the alarm settings.  I would be able to feel a pull if one of my front tires was down 10%.  I know, because I have.  Still, that sounds like a reasonable number to me.  My pressures are set at 70 and 75, and I will frequently get an inside rear high pressure warning showing 93, especially on a long, hot day.  So, my high pressure warning is set at 25%, and I am ok with that."

I hope this is helpful.

Bill
Bill
2003 -- 23' FL

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Reply #6
I met Ken Fears a few times when out on trips, and we exchanged occasional personal messages on LD topics. He encouraged me to get a TPMS for my rig back in 2019, which I did. In late March of this year, I sent Ken a message asking for his advice on tire pressure and alarming on my TPMS prior to a trip to Florida. As always, he was generous with his knowledge and time. I'm sure if he were still with us he would have spoken up about this topic, so will share here my questions, and his replies.

Just like you, I met Ken here in Las Cruces and he was the reason I bought my first TPMS.  I'm saddened by his passing as he was such a kind and helpful person.

I wrote to Ken: "I've read some people over-pressure their tires slightly (5 psi), in case of a small leak. It seems to me this may be okay if one were going to remain in the same ambient temperature range, but if one were going to be, as I will, driving into warmer climes, this could likely result in over-pressure at some point, having to let air out. When I check mine cold, (TPMS), if they're a few pounds low, I know when I start driving, the pressure's going to come up, so don't worry too much about that. My 23' is light, I don't carry much of anything other than us, clothes, food, and bikes. Starting with full water but everything else empty. How do you handle your tire pressure, what goes into your decisions?"

Ken's reply:  "I am running Michelins with a pressure limit of 80 PSI.  I contacted them about my 93 PSI reading (see below), and they said that was fine, that they take heating and expansion into consideration when they set the 80 psi limit.  They said to set it cold, within the tire limits, and not worry about it.  I accept that, sort of…" 

Exactly my concern and question as I would be setting the TPMS to a PSI that is over the limit.

"My 27’ is loaded close to its limit on all 4 corners.  Per the Michelin chart, my front should be between 65 and 70, and the rears between 70 and 75.  So, running them at 70 and 75 is not much over the Michelin table.  So why do I run a little higher?  Handling. When I started traveling I went with 65 and 70, and I had a lot of lateral drift.  I was always doing micro-corrections.  At 70 and 75, my rig is much more stable."

I wrote to Ken: "My other question is about the TPMS system and alarming. I have my low pressure alarm set at 15%, this results in an 'alert' at 9%. If I increase to 20%, it alerts at 13%. I have the high pressure alarm set for 25%. I think I had it at 20%, but when driving in high ambient temperatures at highway speeds, I was getting occasional alarms. I run the front tires at 65 psi and the rears at 75 psi."

Ken's reply: "Let’s do the easy one first - the alarm settings.  I would be able to feel a pull if one of my front tires was down 10%.  I know, because I have.  Still, that sounds like a reasonable number to me.  My pressures are set at 70 and 75, and I will frequently get an inside rear high pressure warning showing 93, especially on a long, hot day.  So, my high pressure warning is set at 25%, and I am ok with that."

Apparently I was able to vocalize my concerns and have someone understand.  Thank you so much for sharing and your reply "calmed" my fears.  It seems that Ken is still helping us in the afterlife...  Thank you so very much for your detailed conversation questions you had with Ken - more than you know... 

I hope this is helpful.

Bill
Cheryl (a.k.a. Desert Diva)
1998 Lazy Daze (26.5 mid-bath)
2002 Honda CR-V

Re: Programming TST TPMS - Dazed and Confused...
Reply #7
Hi Cheryl;  TechnoRV has a series of videos on youtube dealing with 'how to program' the TST TPMS. I haven't watched them all yet, but it starts with this one:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ENxA58EtM&list=TLPQMDkwNzIwMjEDarJ0GwwgvA&index=1

Thanks Ron!  Super helpful videos and now I feel like I have this all "under control."
Cheryl (a.k.a. Desert Diva)
1998 Lazy Daze (26.5 mid-bath)
2002 Honda CR-V

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Reply #8
Cheryl - No one that I am familiar with on this site would ever be critical of you for your recent post.
You are amazing in what you have accomplished with your rig during these terrible times, and health issues.
Keep reaching out to all of us.  It is an absolute pleasure to read an honest fact filled request for answers.
You my dear person are an inspiration to us all.  And those of us who continue to learn from this site are truly grateful.
Most respectfully,
Tony R. (aka codefour)

Aw Tony - Thanks so much for your kindness and your post brings me to tears.  Somewhere in the two unplanned hip replacements, being isolated during the COVID pandemic (and losing my oldest brother to the virus in Indianapolis) I've felt like I've lost my prior "sense of adventure."  I've found myself a little fearful of exploring in the world again and feel I'm somewhat "nervous" about RV-ing.  I'm meeting one of my brothers who lives in Tennessee at Navajo Lake State Park.   He took a road trip with his wife and dropped her off (with her backpacking gal pals) in Colorado and asked if we could meet while they're hiking their trail.   I haven't seen my brother in several years (although we talk frequently).  I keep my Lazy Daze checked out frequently, and I'm sure the trip will be fine.  However, it comes to a point where one has to trust their rig and the road.  I have to do this...
Cheryl (a.k.a. Desert Diva)
1998 Lazy Daze (26.5 mid-bath)
2002 Honda CR-V