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Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #25 –
Quote from: HiLola  - 
I like the idea of relocating the spare to under the chassis.  Anyone done this on the MB?

There isn't enough room for a spare tire and the support rack and crane needed to lift and store it. It would hang very low.
I'm not sure if the floor is strong enough to hold it, since that area of the coach wasn't designed to carry the weight, suspended under the floor.
It belongs in one of the rear compartments, See Steve K's response about using the space.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #26 –
Quote from: Larry W  - 
There isn't enough room for a spare tire and the support rack and crane needed to lift and store it. It would hang very low.
I'm not sure if the floor is strong enough to hold it, since that area of the coach wasn't designed to carry the weight, suspended under the floor.
It belongs in one of the rear compartments, See Steve K's response about using the space.

Yeah, that's where mine is now, passenger side.  Wishful thinking on my part.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #27 –
Was able to print Larry's photo by importing it as a pdf.
Made the correction on the list to "Lube caliper slide pins", instead of "side".

Hoping that they will take a couple of photo's for my reference of the undercarriage of the rig. Not every shop is comfortable allowing customers into the service well. Been under the rig a couple of times, but not as often as I should to familiarized myself with everything. Thought I located a sway bar in front yesterday.

Thanks for letting me know about how to store the spare. I like the idea of being able to check and air if need be without removing it.

When I tested the space it is a tight fit going thru the compartment door. (Had the tire off when replacing the extender valves)
Which reminds me I need to contact Borg to order a new set in case they are damaged during the balancing. Kimberley
2000 Mid Bath
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #28 –
Quote from: kvc  - 
When I tested the space it is a tight fit going thru the compartment door. (Had the tire off when replacing the extender valves)

I know what you mean!  I found that if you rotate the air valve towards the compartment opening, then manhandle the tire through the tight opening about 18 inches or so, you can check the air pressure without removing the beast.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #29 –
"...you can check the air pressure without removing the beast."

Greg

On my 30'IB the spare tire lives in a nook under the Island Bed, accessed by way of the pass-through compartment in the rear of the coach. It takes Magilla Gorilla to wrestle that baby out of it's space. My extension hose is firmly attached to the stem and runs out to the access door where it is easily reached. Every rig is different!  ::)   ;) 
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #30 –
Quote from: RonB  - 
A good idea about a rope through the holes as a handle. Very tough to move it around. About 40 pounds?

According to my manual, Ron, the spare is approx. 80 lbs!   I like the rope and air hose extension ideas.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #31 –
"the spare is approx. 80 lbs"
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Might you be confusing the maximum tire pressure with the weight of the wheel and tire? AFAIK, the wheel and tire weighs about 60 pounds.
2003 TK has a new home
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #32 –
Quote from: Joan  - 
"the spare is approx. 80 lbs"
AFAIK, the wheel and tire weighs about 60 pounds.
Michelin says the tire weighs about 40 pounds so 60 pounds total sounds about right. I haven't taken a wheel off in over a year but I do remember it was heavy and awkward to move.

Charles
Harvest Hosts + Boondockers Welcome #23975
Escapees SKP #138195
2007 23.5' Twin King
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #33 –
Regarding the weight of the spare tire;  I have observed they seem to get heavier EVERY year! Started noticing this when my age matched the weight.  8)

Steve K
Steve K

2003 Mid-bath
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #34 –
Quote from: Joan  - 
Might you be confusing the maximum tire pressure with the weight of the wheel and tire? AFAIK, the wheel and tire weighs about 60 pounds.

Well, I’m usually confused about something but was going by what my manual states. Obviously I haven’t weighed it myself.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #35 –
Quote from: HiLola  - 
Well, I’m usually confused about something but was going by what my manual states. Obviously I haven’t weighed it myself.
Greg,  your manual weighs approximately 13 ounces.
You're welcome  ;D
Joel
Joel & Terry Wiley
dog Zeke
2013  31 IB   Orwan   / 2011 CRV Tow'd LWEROVE
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #36 –
Quote from: joel wiley  - 
Greg,  your manual weighs approximately 13 ounces.
You're welcome  ;D
Joel

Good call, Joel.  Just weighed the manual and it came in at 13.2 oz.  Don’t think the spare tire will fit on the postal scale though!🤪
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
 
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #37 –
Well, your manual sure does say that the spare tire weighs 80 pounds; maybe your next project can be to roll it to a scale and find out? 🥴

I’m still going with about 60.

YMMV, as always.
2003 TK has a new home
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #38 –
I guess I was way off with my 40# estimate.  The hard part is getting one hole lined up with the correct bolt, either on the wheel, or the bolts sticking out of the back wall inside the tire storage place.      RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #39 –
Made it to repair shop without incident. Firetrucks and Ambulances there for maintenance and see this as a good sign.

Someone mentioned having lug nuts for the spare.
What size is the lug nut and would I be able to get this at an auto parts store? 8?

 Another item I would like to have on hand:
Does anyone have a link for KII for the lug nut extenders/caps for the covers?

Last time the LD came out of the shop my wheel shirt kept coming loose "flapping in the wind" and pulled over twice to attempt to secure it, we fixed it with more washers when we got home and has not been a problem since. Small items seems to get set aside at shops and need to make sure I double check this before going down the road.

Thank you, Kimberley
2000 Mid Bath
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #40 –
Quote from: Joan  - 
Well, your manual sure does say that the spare tire weighs 80 pounds; maybe your next project can be to roll it to a scale and find out? 🥴

I’m still going with about 60.

Yeah, if I can wrestle it out of that compartment I may just do that!
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #41 –
Quote from: kvc  - 
Made it to repair shop without incident. Firetrucks and Ambulances there for maintenance and see this as a good sign.

Someone mentioned having lug nuts for the spare.
What size is the lug nut and would I be able to get this at an auto parts store? 8?

 Another item I would like to have on hand:
Does anyone have a link for KII for the lug nut extenders/caps for the covers?

Last time the LD came out of the shop my wheel shirt kept coming loose "flapping in the wind" and pulled over twice to attempt to secure it, we fixed it with more washers when we got home and has not been a problem since. Small items seems to get set aside at shops and need to make sure I double check this before going down the road.

Thank you, Kimberley

KII WHEEL SIMULATORS

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #42 –
Shop mechanic wanted to make sure I was aware that this aggressive tire pattern could increase road noise.
 I know many of you have installed these Michelin and wanted to ask if there was additional road noise noted?

AGILIS CROSSCLIMATE - SIZE: LT225/75R16

•   Size: LT225/75R16
•   Symmetrical Tread Pattern
•   Style: Blackwall
•   Load Range: E
•   Serv. Desc: 115/112R
•   UTQG: None
•   Severe Snow Service Rated

2000 Mid Bath
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #43 –
My 2003 has Michelin Defenders, the previous incarnation and essentially the same tire, specs, and tread pattern as the Agilis CrossClimates (https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Agilis+CrossClimate&partnum=275R6ACCV2&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes) , and I haven't noticed any increase in 'road noise'.

I won't even ask what the suggested tire 'alternative' might be, but the LT Michelin Agilis Cross Climate (load range E, per the link above) is an excellent all-season tire.

2003 TK has a new home
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #44 –
Thanks Joan.
Those were the ones I was looking at.
Handling and Safety in a sudden heavy rain event in the summers is what I was going for, happened upon a three car crash last summer that I missed by a matter of minutes.
2000 Mid Bath
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #45 –
Update on the LD.
In addition to the items listed earlier in this discussion, the LD got a clean bill of health with the exception of two items.

-Seepage noted, not leakage, at the steering box.
-Shock bushings were classified as showing wear.

I will ask for the mechanic to check the bushings for the factory sway bar and the twin I beam.

Compliments to the Forum, Mechanic commented that the check list composed with the help of everyone was precise and the photos' for the emergency brake fill was helpful. Thanks again for all of your input and much appreciated insight, Kimberley
2000 Mid Bath
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #46 –
Quote from: kvc  - 
Shop mechanic wanted to make sure I was aware that this aggressive tire pattern could increase road noise.
 I know many of you have installed these Michelin and wanted to ask if there was additional road noise noted?

AGILIS CROSSCLIMATE - SIZE: LT225/75R16

• Size: LT225/75R16
• Symmetrical Tread Pattern
• Style: Blackwall
• Load Range: E
• Serv. Desc: 115/112R
• UTQG: None
• Severe Snow Service Rated

I believe that is the tire Michelin recommends for the discontinued Defenders.  Although my original tires have not aged out and still have decent tread left, I plan on replacing them with that same tire at the end of the Morro Bay GTG next month.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #47 –
Just confirming whether your mechanic recommended the Cross Climate2, which does have an aggressive tread pattern, or the regular All Season version?

Shop CrossClimate® 2 Tire - Unmatched Performance | Michelin

Michelin Agilis CrossClimate Tires | Michelin

Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #48 –
It was the Agilis CrossClimate that I want and the one he referred to as having an aggressive pattern and the potential for increase road noise.
2000 Mid Bath
Re: Specification needed : Wheel size for spare tire, 2000 MB
Reply #49 –
Quote from: kvc  - 
Shop mechanic wanted to make sure I was aware that this aggressive tire pattern could increase road noise.
For me, tires seem to make less 'road noise' that some of the people blowing past me with horns and fingers in use  ;)
There is value in hearing aids.
joel
Joel & Terry Wiley
dog Zeke
2013  31 IB   Orwan   / 2011 CRV Tow'd LWEROVE