This is what I want December 29, 2020, 02:49:28 pm This "Photo of the Month" is my goal but with a 4 door Jeep. Silver and silver...beautiful.Does someone in our group own this rig? 2 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #1 – December 29, 2020, 03:01:24 pm Quote from: tedeboy - December 29, 2020, 02:49:28 pm This "Photo of the Month" is my goal but with a 4 door Jeep. Silver and silver...beautiful.Does someone in our group own this rig?It belongs to White Elk, as the photo's credits show.It a good looking color combination.Larry
Re: This is what I want Reply #2 – December 29, 2020, 03:14:26 pm Quote from: Larry W - December 29, 2020, 03:01:24 pmIt belongs to White Elk, as the photo's credits show.It a good looking color combination.LarryThanks Larry. My first search before posting I couldn't find a "White Elk" for some reason. Just tried now with success! 1 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #3 – December 29, 2020, 05:35:06 pm Yes, nice color combination but reminds me too much of my Navy days. I’m a landlubber now! 3 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #4 – December 29, 2020, 10:58:06 pm “Yes, nice color combination but reminds me too much of my Navy days“Well, I would have ordered the Lazy Daze in Green and the Jeep in “Mojito”. Sometimes one needs to defer to one’s partner... Gray and Silver it is!Warren 6 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #5 – December 30, 2020, 12:24:37 am Quote from: HiLola - December 29, 2020, 05:35:06 pmYes, nice color combination but reminds me too much of my Navy days. I’m a landlubber now!Greg, I've got the same color scheme as Warren. We were looking at the tan which would hide the dust.In the end, we realized we'd have road dirt more often than off-road dirt and went which best matched.Understand your 'landlubberness'. After my stint in the Army, it was a decade before I could wear green again. Joel 1 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #6 – December 30, 2020, 08:17:45 am Can you tow a 4D Jeep Wrangler with a mid sized LD? Quote from: tedeboy - December 29, 2020, 02:49:28 pm This "Photo of the Month" is my goal but with a 4 door Jeep. Silver and silver...beautiful.Does someone in our group own this rig?
Re: This is what I want Reply #7 – December 30, 2020, 09:58:42 am Quote from: HiLola - December 29, 2020, 05:35:06 pmYes, nice color combination but reminds me too much of my Navy days. I’m a landlubber now!Haze gray and underway 😂 Retired Navy here 2 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #8 – December 30, 2020, 10:23:39 am Quote from: O2boutside - December 30, 2020, 09:58:42 amHaze gray and underway 😂 Retired Navy hereThank you for your service to our country! 1 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #9 – December 30, 2020, 10:31:43 am Quote from: O2boutside - December 30, 2020, 09:58:42 amHaze gray and underway 😂 Retired Navy hereA little off topic, British shipping lines used to have distinctive colors for their stacks, or funnels. You comment reminded my of an unofficial Royal Navy response The Grey Funnel Line and a bit of backgroundThanks for your service.joel 1 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #10 – December 30, 2020, 11:16:32 am Quote from: Sasha - December 30, 2020, 08:17:45 amCan you tow a 4D Jeep Wrangler with a mid sized LD? Likely only if you upgrade the hitch/receiver assembly to take advantage of the 7,500 GCWR-GVWR. Wranglers keep getting heavier over time. Depending on model, the curb weights are already about 4,000 lbs and up. With options and cargo I can see some models pushing 5,000 lbs. The new Wrangler Rubicon 392 with a Hemi V8 would be quite the ride though!Art 1 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #11 – December 30, 2020, 03:56:56 pm I'm on list for a 31 IB white/Sliver, I have a 4-door wrangler (silver) that is at 5225 LBS and if I continue to build it out like I want that weight will go up. I can tow my Jeep (with additional cargo in it) with my 31' Phoenix Cruiser with no problem; the E450 has more than enough power to do the job. I did have to change out the hitch, Phoenix uses a bolt on hitch (5000 lbs), I changed it out to an 8000 lbs hitch. This has been my one big concern, how to beef up the hitch that comes on the LD, I've seen some pictures of how some have welded on steel to strengthen what comes on the LD; I'm wondering if this is enough. Or do I look into a bolt on hitch like I have on my Phoenix Cruiser. I'd prefer to hook my Jeep up to the receiver that comes with the LD, adding a whole new hitch will hang below the rear bumper and I don't like the thought of scraping when entering or exiting driveways or the way it would look.
Re: This is what I want Reply #12 – December 30, 2020, 06:26:24 pm Dan, I have a 30 IB and have replaced all of the grade 5 bolts with grade 8, which I understand the factory uses now. I also welded on two tangs to be able to clip the backup tow chains. But I havent looked at beefing up the hitch because my toad would be either an older jeep cherokee that weights 3200lbs or a honda crv. I dont particularly like how LD added onto the original Ford frame in the back and hope they do a stouter design now. In any case, I was looking at welding in a completely new structure and taking it to the original frame if I got a heavier vehicle. You might ask Todd to take some photos of their current setup for you. They are finishing a 31 IB unit now, and I had him send me some photos of the overcab area.
Re: This is what I want Reply #13 – December 30, 2020, 08:44:33 pm Rich,Thank you for the information and the suggestion to call Todd. I'll see if I can sweet talk Todd into letting me visit the factory to see the 31 IB, I'm only 20 miles away. I know they have been closed, but if I wear a mask maybe he will let me make a quick visit. Dan 1 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #14 – December 30, 2020, 09:46:27 pm Call Todd and ask "Can I come down and take some undercarriage pics of the hitch area so I have a better idea of beefing it up after driving it off the lot?"
Re: This is what I want Reply #15 – December 30, 2020, 09:55:56 pm Beefing up the hitch is not the only consideration. If you plug “beefing up the hitch” and choose “entire forum” in the search engine, there are some great comments on this topic, particularly from Don Malpas and also the Lazy Daze Companion on towing and toads.
Re: This is what I want Reply #16 – January 10, 2021, 12:11:46 pm Exploring "Forum View" brought me back to this thread and I realized I can add something here...On the advice of Vince (former Lazy Daze Service Manager), we had Paul Brow of All Car Specialists in in San Gabriel, CA fabricate and install the cross brace shown in the attached photo. Apparently, Paul has done this for a number of LD owners. The brace, per Vince's advice, is removable (bolted rather than welded), to allow servicing of the holding tank. The purpose of the brace is to provide lateral reinforcement of the frame rail extensions that Lazy Daze installs (connecting the Ford frame rails to the Lazy Daze Bumper assembly). We also replaced & reinforced all hardware with grade eight, per advice of others on this forum. At a recent caravan, It was said that our cross-brace reinforcement is probably overkill for our 4350 Lb Jeep Wrangler Two Door. This may be true but I sleep better and don't miss the modest cash expended.With regard to the excellent point "Beefing up the hitch is not the only consideration", I offer my experience that we generally tour in our 2019 27 MB weighing 12,900 Lbs or so. We unhitch the Jeep before climbing significant grades and even moderate grades at higher altitudes. At lower elevation the powerful and light E450 - Lazy Daze pulls the Jeep handily. At higher elevations the effects of altitude can be readily felt (do study Ford's guidance on reducing GCVWR at altitude). My sense is that towing a 5000 Lb plus vehicle on significant grades and certainly at altitude would test and ultimately contribute to premature failure of drivetrain components, especially the transmission. I would opt for a lighter vehicle. In fact, I have considered replacing our second car with a second, lighter weight toad for occasions where we do not need the Jeep. 4 Likes
Re: This is what I want Reply #17 – January 10, 2021, 06:08:22 pm Quote from: WhiteElk - January 10, 2021, 12:11:46 pmOn the advice of Vince (former Lazy Daze Service Manager), we had Paul Brow of All Car Specialists in in San Gabriel, CA fabricate and install the cross brace shown in the attached photo. Apparently, Paul has done this for a number of LD owners. The brace, per Vince's advice, is removable (bolted rather than welded), to allow servicing of the holding tank. The purpose of the brace is to provide lateral reinforcement of the frame rail extensions that Lazy Daze installs (connecting the Ford frame rails to the Lazy Daze Bumper assembly). We also replaced & reinforced all hardware with grade eight, per advice of others on this forum..Thanks Warren for sharing the pic and description of your hitch upgrade. I especially like that’s it’s removable to allow for servicing the holding tank. If you’ don’t mind, would you also share the cost of the upgrade and the estimated weight? You can PM me if you don’t wish to give out the cost publicly.Thank you,John
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