Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #25 – December 21, 2020, 01:10:18 pm Quote from: Sawyer - December 21, 2020, 09:07:35 amAre you in LA?I wonder if this is one of those nonviolent crimes that wont be prosecuted if you are poor or a minor.Why is your go-to position that any social issues mentioned must be in California?Now Los Angeles has become your target.The OP of this thread lives in Arizona. I have not heard any rants on Arizona from you yet.Guess you have never been to the west coast of your state, do you actually think Seattle and the other coastal large cities are crime-free because all the criminals and liberals live in California? Yup, Washington State is the safest place in the USA for a catalytic converter to live.Your comments seem to rotate around political items, the forum is not the place for these conversations, as you have heard from us several times before.Facebook is always looking for new members. Larry 8 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #26 – December 21, 2020, 02:29:59 pm Merry Christmas to all and to all a goodnight. Just for the record."those accused of misdemeanors and low-level felonies will be referred to community-based programs."https://www.foxnews.com/politics/crimes-las-prosecute
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #27 – December 22, 2020, 02:56:17 pm I had a better angle for photos when the tow truck arrived. Here's what it looks like when scum comes calling for your catalytic converter.Dan
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #28 – December 22, 2020, 07:18:51 pm Really sorry Dan to hear about your catalytic converter theft. I will do my best not to graphically express myself about the parentage of the folks who think they deserved your property more then you. glen
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #29 – December 23, 2020, 01:33:30 am Hi Dan; sorry to hear about that theft. It could have been worse. The cut was clean, and the new one will bolt right on at the flange fitting. So just one weld needed. I would go to a muffler shop, no need to involve Ford. Depending on their expertise, they may remove that cut pipe all the way back to the forward fitting, perhaps not really needed. The perp here could have really mangled things worse. RonB
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #30 – December 23, 2020, 12:49:25 pm That was my thoughts exactly they really cut it clean. Looks like a cordless sawzall job. Tuff loss but it could of been worse.Jon
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #31 – December 26, 2020, 01:03:59 am I have the Lazy Daze back now from the shop. I'd like to offer some thoughts on the experience.1. If you are the victim of a catalytic converter theft, your insurance company is going to offer you the cost of a replacement after-market cat. In my case this all worked out to $808.00. I have been with Progressive since 2012 when we bought the LD and I've never made a claim so I had a "disappearing deductible". If I had to pay the deductible, the insurance company would have only covered $308.00.2. The tow to the shop was completely covered under my roadside assistance coverage with Progressive and I was completely satisfied with the service I received.3. Now, the IMPORTANT PART (in my opinion). I reached a conclusion that only an OEM Ford catalytic converter was an acceptable replacement. When Ford designed these E-450 cutaways for use as motor homes, the engineers designed the cats with heat shielding and placement that was mindful of the living quarters that would exist above the cat. In other words - HEAT PROTECTION. I spoke with the Ford dealership and was told that they could make an aftermarket cat work but it would require bending the exhaust in ways that did not fit the factory exhaust system. They also said they could add more heat shielding to an aftermarket cat at increased $$. The OEM cat cost substantially more than an aftermarket cat and I had to eat the difference. The insurance adjuster was unsympathetic to this argument as he cares only about his bottom line in claim payouts.For those of you who will be there, see you in the desert at Quartzsite next week.Dan 9 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #32 – December 26, 2020, 10:37:47 am <sigh> sooner or later the insurance company always wins ......ps they ALL act the same way no matter the brand.glen 1 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #33 – December 26, 2020, 11:05:48 am Dan, glad you were able to resolve everything with the catalytic converter.We will be with you in spirit only at Quartzsite. Once we get to the point where we can tow our car, we hope to visit in person with the group!
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #34 – December 26, 2020, 11:43:24 am Has anyone researched an appropriate add-on to the cat device for theft protection? There are several different styles out there, but what would be the most effective for each style of vehicles one owns? Personally, so far I am impressed with the cable clamping system offered by CatClamp. <https://catclamp.com/product/catclamp-heavy-duty-security-kit-2/>What I like so far is that the cables can wrap through vehicle structure increasing the difficulty of removal. It is hard to cut cable with a saws-all or bolt cutters. I am still checking out other systems. I would be adding a device that I decide on to each or our vehicles (3). 3 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #35 – December 27, 2020, 07:08:32 am I have to say having my cat converter stolen is not even on my list of concerns. I would suggest where you park would be the major contributor to theft incidence. No big deal to me losing a cat, much bigger deal to have a break in and lose somethings that can not be easily replaced.
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #36 – December 27, 2020, 09:12:57 am Quote from: Don Malpas - December 27, 2020, 07:08:32 amI would suggest where you park would be the major contributor to theft incidence.Don, OP was not in a bad area of town (I am from the same metro area).In my experience, being in a nicer area means more thefts (thieves know you have nicer stuff).Parking at a home in a lower crime neighborhood (as OP was) or at a Costco, are not places I normally would think of as high risk areas.Thieves go where the items the we want to steal are located - so maybe parking where RVs / vehicles with catalytic converters are scarce is the place to park.In the Phoenix area most homes have HOAs and they disallow RVs at the houses (except for loading/unloading) and pretty strict restrictions Even then. So I could see if someone wanted an RV catalytic converter heading for the neighborhoods that allow RVs to park at a house (vs an RV park where people live in their RVs and neighbors know their neighbors). In Phoenix area that is typically middle class neighborhoods not built in the last 10 years or so.And parking lots are known for thefts - I had a friend whose truck was stollen from a work parking lot at lunch - pretty brazen as though there were hundreds of vehicles she was not far from the building entrance and people were in the parking lot at the time. A quick entry into the locked vehicle and destroyed where the key turned on the car, a hot wire and they were gone. Just to steal inexpensive camping gear in the back of a not-new truck with a camper shell.Not a big gain for the thieves but a real mess and bother for my friend.Jane 2 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #37 – December 27, 2020, 09:34:02 am Quote from: Sawyer - December 21, 2020, 02:29:59 pm"those accused of misdemeanors and low-level felonies will be referred to community-based programs."https://www.foxnews.com/politics/crimes-las-prosecuteSawyer that is not unique to CA. CO was known for not prosecuting lesser crimes and plea bargaining bigger crimes when I lived there. In fact if you contested a traffic ticket their first response was to offer to change it to a fix it ticket (I don’t know if that was for DUI / reckless driving type tickets). Same for Seattle area when I lived there. A friend’s family had a horrible crime committed against then which destroyed several lives and the perpetrator plea bargained to a couple years in jail with no financial restitutions - while the family and state picked up the huge lifelong medical costs and the victims life was reduced to barely functional and round the clock intensive care needed.States have to manage their resources and go after what is easy and achievable. Personally knowing they can’t catch and prosecute everyone, I have no problem with a state/city deciding to not pursue smaller crimes (yes it rankles the part of me that says there needs to be consequences but I understand it from a business point of view - limited resources). What bothers me more is people having very small consequences for crimes that destroys lives.Jane
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #38 – December 27, 2020, 11:01:33 am Quote from: dsandsaz - December 22, 2020, 02:56:17 pmI had a better angle for photos when the tow truck arrived. Here's what it looks like when scum comes calling for your catalytic converter. Dan I'm surprised that someone would steal a 13 year old catalytic converter. Can't they get a higher price for a much newer one?
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #39 – December 27, 2020, 11:08:51 am Quote from: Eric Greenwell - December 27, 2020, 11:01:33 amI'm surprised that someone would steal a 13 year old catalytic converter. Can't they get a higher price for a much newer one?Why catalytic converter thefts are upCharles
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #40 – December 27, 2020, 01:19:29 pm I have mentioned The “cat strap” Device in previous catalytic converter theft threads recently. Here is the link for the device. Prevent Catalytic Converter Theft | Catstrap | United StatesI had two cats removed from my Sequoia and had two cat straps installed on the new cats. It’s been several years since then. Cats are still in place. The cat straps come with a key fob to test the system. The alarm is extremely loud. If a thief attempts the removal of the cat, the alarm goes off. I’m satisfied with mine. Certainly worth the $90 cost. Simple installation instructions. A DIY job I had my mechanic perform. Just some food for thought.Kent 4 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #41 – December 27, 2020, 04:07:39 pm Quote from: Eric Greenwell - December 27, 2020, 11:01:33 amI'm surprised that someone would steal a 13 year old catalytic converter. Can't they get a higher price for a much newer one?A used cat's precious metal catalyst is recoverable, catalysts, by definition, are not consumed.The larger the catalytic converter, the more recycling value it has, new or used.Larry
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #42 – January 22, 2021, 03:38:47 pm Ive been reading for months about the Catalytic Converter being stolen. I never dreamed it would be me next! BUT, it did and my Insurance is waiting on me to find someone to replace it but so far nothing. Part is obsolete on my 2000. Can anyone help?
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #43 – January 22, 2021, 03:57:43 pm The catalytic converter for a 2000 that meets federal standards is available, but if the LD is registered in California, that catalytic converter doesn't meet the standard. You might want to do a hard search for a compliant replacement and also try calling a Ford truck center for guidance. I hope you are able to resolve this; I'm sure it's a major blow! 1 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #44 – January 23, 2021, 12:21:09 am I suggest contacting the California Bureau of Automotive Repair Referee Program, they can provide assistance in cases where certified replacement parts are not available.Referee Program - Bureau of Automotive RepairLarry 3 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #45 – February 10, 2021, 11:28:14 am https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/climate/catalytic-converter-theft.htmlChris 1 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #46 – February 10, 2021, 07:25:19 pm This catalytic converter thieves has become a problem here in Fargo ND! Written up in the local newspaper to make folks aware of the situation.. 2 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #47 – February 11, 2021, 07:50:46 am Larry, thanks it has taken 3 weeks to finally get the referee on the phone.My mechanic was on hold yesterday for 90 minutes then was shuffled around. Finally got a real person gave them the information he was told it would be 5-10 business days before they could give him an answer. We do know that the e350 would work or evenF150 however they cannot go,forward until approval. Another note about our “patrolled secure storage” another owner went to check on his rig found a guy living in it! The owner had been gone a couple of months. Sigh... 1 Likes
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #48 – February 11, 2021, 08:03:16 am Cat thefts. When I spoke with my insurance adjuster and told him I was going to look for a more secure storage his response was this. We have claims where the rig was inside a lock single storage garage broken into and cat stolen! He said if they want something they will get it. As for older converters they contain more rhodium, palladium and platinum along with in some instance gold. This is a nationwide problem they do not steal to resell they just sell it to a junk lot who then retrieves the precious metals. The thief will get from$100-$250 for the cat.
Re: Catalytic Converter Theft Reply #49 – February 11, 2021, 08:04:35 am As a PS if you carry Comprehensive it will be covered. My deductible for Comp is $250.
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