Re: foggy windows Reply #50 – November 20, 2020, 08:31:45 am I just had mine done at ProRV right outside Dallas Texas. I posted a lengthy description of the process and experience. I would recommend them to any LD owner. I considered going the RV Glass Solution route in Florida, but it took the main office 3 days just to answer the question if they can do them. I had to send them pics for obtaining estimates. They basically have expanded and bought out some local operators in Florida and other states. I'm not so sure those places will provide the same level of service as the original Cogburn or Phoenix facitilites. I would imagine it's all about the tech's capability who does the work. The estimated cost for repair from the RV Glass Solution main office, was twice the estimates from Suncoast and ProRV. Given the LD reviews and the need to be patient and take your time dealing with the Inner seal and aluminum siding, I opt'ed out of the Suncoast route. Suncoast's reviews are all over the map. I address several technical challenges of dealing with our windows in my writeup. See my write up in the other forum "Lazy Daze Info & General Discussions". Foggy windows are discussed in several places.foggy windowsProRV is located in Colleyville, Tx. Ask for Dawn Cass who is over that Glass repair department.Robby 1 Likes
Re: foggy windows Reply #51 – November 20, 2020, 09:10:45 am Suncoast is variable as the tech's turnover every week.Most RV windows are easily removed. We all know LD does not intend moisture to enter and seals them quite well. Suncoast expects the techs to complete a rig quickly, so pry bars get used and the rig gets damaged.
Re: foggy windows Reply #52 – November 21, 2020, 09:07:37 am I had a 97 LD that I sold a couple years ago and there was no fogging in any windows. Is it possible the older windows were of superior construction or was I just lucky?
Re: foggy windows Reply #53 – November 21, 2020, 09:16:48 am Quote from: Sawyer - November 21, 2020, 09:07:37 amI had a 97 LD that I sold a couple years ago and there was no fogging in any windows. Is it possible the older windows were of superior construction or was I just lucky?The fogging only happens in dual pane windows with an air space between the panes. 97's didn't have them, so no fogging. 2 Likes
Re: foggy windows Reply #54 – November 21, 2020, 09:36:14 am Quote from: LindaB - November 21, 2020, 09:16:48 amThe fogging only happens in dual pane windows with an air space between the panes. 97's didn't have them, so no fogging.Well that explains that. When did dual pane windows start in LDs?Edit: Answered my own question thanks to Andy's blog.Windows"One of the big attractions of a Lazy Daze coach is the number and size of windows. In addition, they have always been deeply tinted so that although occupants can see out, folks outside can't see inside in daylight. Prior to 2003 models, the windows were of a double-pane construction with a tinted film between them, but there was no insulating air space between the panes. Beginning in 2003, LD started using a true insulated window, with improved insulating qualities. These windows greatly reduce wintertime condensation." With all the fogging issues of true thermal pane in a moving vehicle maybe the pre 2003 way was better. 2 Likes
Re: foggy windows Reply #55 – November 21, 2020, 06:28:50 pm Quote from: Sawyer - November 21, 2020, 09:36:14 am With all the fogging issues of true thermal pane in a moving vehicle maybe the pre 2003 way was better.Except the laminated windows can crack. We haven't been able to find a local glass provider that has a tinted laminate that is dark enough to replace ours. We have a crack in one side of the laminated glass in a rear window. It doesn't affect safety so we live with it.
Re: foggy windows Reply #56 – November 21, 2020, 07:26:12 pm Quote from: tlbh2o - November 21, 2020, 06:28:50 pmExcept the laminated windows can crack. We haven't been able to find a local glass provider that has a tinted laminate that is dark enough to replace ours. We have a crack in one side of the laminated glass in a rear window. It doesn't affect safety so we live with it.Theresa,I *think* Hehr is the manufacturer of those windows. There is a Hehr glass plant in Michigan, and window plants in MI and IN.Window Plants Worth a try.Linda
Re: foggy windows Reply #57 – November 21, 2020, 08:35:35 pm QuoteWe have a crack in one side of the laminated glass in a rear window. It doesn't affect safety so we live with it.Same here, it doesn't leak, just looks bad, I can live with it. 1 Likes
Re: foggy windows Reply #58 – November 22, 2020, 06:44:04 pm Quote from: LindaB - November 21, 2020, 07:26:12 pmTheresa,I *think* Hehr is the manufacturer of those windows. There is a Hehr glass plant in Michigan, and window plants in MI and IN.Window Plants Worth a try.LindaThanks Linda, I didn't know there was a Hehr Glass plant that close to us. I sent them an email requesting any info they could provide. I will report back.
Re: foggy windows Reply #59 – November 28, 2020, 12:44:24 pm Hi, Linda B! Have you picked up your LD yet?Theresa, I just wrote to Hehr too -- they are near Saginaw - Chesaning, I think. I was asking (tho acknowledge probably not..) if they would sell a replacement rear window unit to me I could take down to those guys in Elkhart to install. However, I emailed them (RV Glass Solutions/Elkhart) the same day -- and haven't heard back yet -- so most likely they will want to buy from Hehr and mark up + install labor. If I make any progress on this, I will post. MJB
Re: foggy windows Reply #60 – November 28, 2020, 08:34:50 pm Identical topics from 2 boards merged here. Please do not start multiple topics for the same thing.
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