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Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #25 –
Quote from: brewersarcade  - 
Personally, I love the carpeting in the living area and chassis but I understand why a hard floor would be preferred when it comes to keeping everything clean. You'll make some great memories!

The sollid flooring can be covered with either throw rugs or a custom cut carpet overlay, for cold weather use.
Without some form of insulation over the solid flooring, the floor will be an drafty icebox when winter camping, not an issue if one never camps in cooler weather.
We look forward to the winter when a wider range of camping areas are avaialble, especially the deserts, which are inhospitable much of the year. Overnight freezing temps are common in the winter in our deserts, sometimes with light snowfall.
During the winter we appreiciate still having the Factroy capeting, plus a removable indoor/outdoor carpet overlay.

Almost everything in life is a compromise
Larry


Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #26 –
Quote from: Larry W  - 
The sollid flooring can be covered with either throw rugs or a custom cut carpet overlay, for cold weather use.
Without some form of insulation over the solid flooring, the floor will be an drafty icebox when winter camping, not an issue if one never camps in cooler weather.
We look forward to the winter when a wider range of camping areas are avaialble, especially the deserts, which are inhospitable much of the year. Overnight freezing temps are common in the winter in our deserts, sometimes with light snowfall.
During the winter we appreiciate still having the Factroy capeting, plus a removable indoor/outdoor carpet overlay.

Almost everything in life is a compromise
Larry




Agreed about the carpeting especially in the winter months. Just like my house, I like hardwood in the common areas and carpeting in the bedrooms. Plus, floor to ceiling carpeting in the front driver and passenger chassis area should just be standard in any RV. Can't beat the retro vibe! :D
Joe B.
2008 26ft  grey/white Rear Bath
Family of 5 hitting the open road as much as we can.
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #27 –
"Plus, floor to ceiling carpeting in the..."

I have seen this carried to the extreme!

A German relative of ours has a business selling floor coverings. While visiting their home I was astounded to see that he had not stopped at the walls but had carried the carpet clear to the ceilings as well.  :o
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #28 –
Quote from: Lazy Bones  - 
A German relative of ours has a business selling floor coverings. While visiting their home I was astounded to see that he had not stopped at the walls but had carried the carpet clear to the ceilings as well.  :o

Why stop at the walls, go for the gusto!
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #29 –
Just think of the great acoustics.
Former 2000 MB- Now Bullet Crossfire 1800RB trailer pulled by a Chevy 2500HD
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #30 –
Larry, the sink dimensions are: Outside metal edge to edge is 25" X 15.25"  The two identical bowls are 10.25" X 13" and 6" deep.  Washing pots & pans is a lot easier with the larger size bowls.
Greg & Chris, The SmartPlug now being used are marine grade materials and better protected from the weather. The female cord end locks to the stainless male socket on the motorhome.  This is much better than the previous twist & lock connections I had on the 2010 coach.
Andy, I can see where the incoming light through the spinning fan blades could very distracting. One of my planed upgrades this winter is installing Maxxair vent covers on all three MaxAir vents which will diffuse the direct sunlight and keep rain out while using the fans. Andy you did invent a great alternative. Looks good!
The closet door in the rear bath is held open with a plastic hook & grab hook next to the refrigerator. Those two parts were difficult (and noisy) to always work in our previous rear bath and are no different now. I devised a magnet solution to this issue. I attached the strongest kitchen cabinet door magnet to the closet door edge and glued two round magnets to a baseplate which was screwed to the wall frame where the door rest when opened. (see photos)  Now a gentle pull or push quietly disengages the magnets to close the door. 
2010 RB "Monty"  & currently: 2021 RB "Villa Verde"
2004 Born Free 26'
1998 Beaver Patriot 33'
1992 Barth Breakaway 28'
1982 Fleetwood Jamboree 23'
1982 Dolphin/Toyota 22'
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #31 –
Larry, I agree that the solid floor can get very cold on your feet as it was last night up on top of the Mogollon Rim (AZ) @ 7800+ feet and 48F.  Furnace worked well. We may try to find a Navajo rug along the way to NM that will fit the forward space. We already have carpet runners in the kitchen & bath area that came over from our past rear bath.  
2010 RB "Monty"  & currently: 2021 RB "Villa Verde"
2004 Born Free 26'
1998 Beaver Patriot 33'
1992 Barth Breakaway 28'
1982 Fleetwood Jamboree 23'
1982 Dolphin/Toyota 22'
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #32 –
Mike,
There was much discussion about the internal TPMS and valve stems.  Has Ford or LD  made the valve stems easy to use without extensions?

Oh, and does the oven still need to be manually lit, or does it have a piezo igniter?

Linda
Linda B
Green 2021 RB
2022 Ford Maverick toad
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #33 –
Linda, The inside dual valve stems are still hard to access. Also the Ford TPMS are part of those stems. When I get home I will be researching if my Borg stems will fit those wheels.
The oven's pilot still has to be ignited with a match or lighter.
2010 RB "Monty"  & currently: 2021 RB "Villa Verde"
2004 Born Free 26'
1998 Beaver Patriot 33'
1992 Barth Breakaway 28'
1982 Fleetwood Jamboree 23'
1982 Dolphin/Toyota 22'
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #34 –
Quote from: LindaB  - 
Oh, and does the oven still need to be manually lit, or does it have a piezo igniter?

Piezo lighters are great if you can see if the burner has lit, the lighter works well for the top burners.

The oven's pilot is hard to see even when you are on your knees. Without an electronic sensor or some other way of knowing if it is burning, the pilot could be releasing raw, unburned gas in small quantities.
The manually lit oven pilot is a safe, near fool-proof way of lighting the oven without adding a lot of extra parts and electronics, it is a dependable system, which fits perfectly with LD's philosophy of keeping it simple.
Too bad it's such a PIA.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #35 –
Mike,

You mentioned early in this thread that your new LD has a built in shore power surge, under/over voltage & polarity protector display.  I could not find any mention of this feature on the LD web site.  Could you say a little more about it?

I gather you did not opt for the  Ford Driver Assist Technology Package.  Was this because you wanted Sirius XM radio which apparently is not available with the Technology Package?

Paul H.
Paul
2010 MB (2011-present)                                                                                        
1994 Multiplan (1997-2010)
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #36 –
We agree that lighting the oven is a PIA, that's why I let her do it.   ;D It only needs to be lite once per trip. I am sure that will give many the creeps. Hey, we drive with frig on propane also. We do cut off during fueling.
Don & Dorothy
Sold our LD in June of 2023

Our boring always non-PC travel blog
Traveling Dorothy
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #37 –
You're in my favorite campsite (#123) at Lost Dutchman.  Been there many times.  Love it as it is only 35 minutes from the house.

Bob
2006 RK
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #38 –
Paul H.> This year LD added an internal mounted Southwire Surge Guard RV power protection unit for the incoming shore power supply only, not for the  generator power feed. See photo for the display that is mounted on the lower kitchen cabinet wall at the entry door of the coach. It is not mentioned in the LD motorhome manual yet. This saves me adding a surge guard later as I was planning. This is a welcome addition!
Several years we had a friend visit us from New Mexico who had a medical problem and had to return home by air instead of driving home. We volunteered to drive her car back (a good reason for another trip west) to NM following (not towing) our motorhome. That car had the driver assist package and Elizabeth (car's driver as I drove the LD) found the system to be VERY annoying. That is why we declined to get it for Villa Verde. To re-enforce our decision the rental Penske box truck we drove to Arizona carrying all our motorhome gear was a new 2021 Ford E450. It had the driver assist  package. That was equally annoying to both of us (we both did the driving). The Penske Ford radio did have Sirius capability but not activated. On the up side the Ford dash was the new digital type that is also in Villa Verde. This allowed us to become familiar with its many features. The best is the display for the transmission temperature.  Yea!

Don M. You know our eating lifestyle and we never had the cause to use the oven. It's just storage for some lightweight containers. Oil/grease based cooking is also not what we do so dish cleaning is very easy on the holding tank.

Today we passed the first gray/white LD on this trip. We were eastbound on NM SR 53 east of El Moro Nat. Mon.  and they were westbound. We all waved.  The adventure continues.
 
2010 RB "Monty"  & currently: 2021 RB "Villa Verde"
2004 Born Free 26'
1998 Beaver Patriot 33'
1992 Barth Breakaway 28'
1982 Fleetwood Jamboree 23'
1982 Dolphin/Toyota 22'
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #39 –
Mike, what did you find annoying about the Driver Assistance features?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #40 –
Greg, What was annoying on a long trip is the warning tones when getting too close to your lane sides, slowing the cruise control when starting to pass another vehicle. We like to be in full control of the vehicle at all times. I know this will stir up criticism from others but it is only our preference.  Others will have to decide for themselves what they want.
2010 RB "Monty"  & currently: 2021 RB "Villa Verde"
2004 Born Free 26'
1998 Beaver Patriot 33'
1992 Barth Breakaway 28'
1982 Fleetwood Jamboree 23'
1982 Dolphin/Toyota 22'
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #41 –
Yes, those tones can be annoying!  Not sure about the Ford chassis but on my Subaru, some features and tones can be disabled.  The adaptive cruise control is probably my favorite feature.  As you said, not for everyone.

So were you the first to take delivery on the new chassis?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #42 –
Greg, I'm not sure we were. Todd said something about first building some showroom models before ours. The first chassis they received didn't have the driver assist package so that put us ahead of those that did opt for that option. 
2010 RB "Monty"  & currently: 2021 RB "Villa Verde"
2004 Born Free 26'
1998 Beaver Patriot 33'
1992 Barth Breakaway 28'
1982 Fleetwood Jamboree 23'
1982 Dolphin/Toyota 22'
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #44 –
Quote from: HiLola  - 
Why stop at the walls, go for the gusto!

If you're ever been to Graceland you'll see some insane "style" when it comes to floor to ceiling carpet!
Joe B.
2008 26ft  grey/white Rear Bath
Family of 5 hitting the open road as much as we can.
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #46 –
Muhammad, I can't tell much difference in engine sound level between the V-10 and the V-8. The V-8 could possibly be a little quieter but it is noticeably stronger in performance. The last tank fuel filling showed mileage at 11.7mpg. We are still in the break-in period staying under 65-mph. I have no negative issues with how well the coach handles. It certainly a pleasure for both of us to drive.
2010 RB "Monty"  & currently: 2021 RB "Villa Verde"
2004 Born Free 26'
1998 Beaver Patriot 33'
1992 Barth Breakaway 28'
1982 Fleetwood Jamboree 23'
1982 Dolphin/Toyota 22'
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #47 –
Mike, the power is due to reverting to a muscle car engine, pushrods. Someone will bring out a turbo for it and you can zoom up mountains like the diesels.
Don & Dorothy
Sold our LD in June of 2023

Our boring always non-PC travel blog
Traveling Dorothy
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #48 –
I have trouble with metric engine sizes.  How many cubic inches is the new V-8?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: 2021 Rear Bath "Villa Verde" What's new & improvements
Reply #49 –
I believe it is approximately 445 cubic inches. 
Ross Taylor
2017 MB