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And then there was a LEAK!!

August 10, 2020, 09:33:01 am

And then there was a LEAK!

So we took the LD out for the weekend and it poured on Saturday morning. Within a few hours of heavy rain there was water dripping from the ceiling seam directly behind the cab. If I pushed on the seam it would ooze out all along the seam. I took a butter knife and pushed it a little bit into the seam to channel the water out - placed an empty open cooler underneath to contain the drips.

I looked and felt all the interior of the front cab-over entertainment system and upper side cupboards and didnt see any other wet / damp areas.

My primary question is - where do I start to identify the source of the leak? What are my first steps for resolution?

And, did I cause this? Recently - i replaced the cracked brittle round orange running lights on the front of the cabover, installed or reinstalled stick on 3m gutter, "tested" (cranked up) the tv antenna for the first time since our purchase in April, removed the maxxair vent cover to clean inside and replaced it after cleaning (I didnt think I distrubed any of the sealer as it was basically sitting / secured on top of the seal line).

Also, this is the first time the rig has been truly level in a heavy rain so there was a bit of pooling on the roof when I went up to inspect. So perhaps there was a potential leak the whole time and it didnt show itself.

The roof was entirely resealed at the mothership in 2015. The camper is back in storage and I dont have the paperwork home with me - but I think I remember a note on the LD receipt that said the owner requested the tv antenna not be resealed. (not sure why this would have been the case).

Also of note - a few hours after the leak was detected I noticed the #9 fuse was popped for the "tv, water heater, monitor panel" - not sure if the leak caused a short that made this pop. I do know the fuse was good earlier in the day because the TV worked. Curious if anyone can tell me what "monitor panel" this refers to - the fresh, grey, black lpg monitor above the stove?

I attached some pictures of the current condition of the eternabond and sealant (I assume its dicor).

Please and thank you as always!! Looking for suggestions for where to start / what to do. The camper is in indoor storage right now so not an emergency situation.

I did take a look at many of the other threads and the companion - just not sure of first step(s) - goop on more dicor at most likely intrusion points, scrape and start over, do a whole roof reseal - ugh...

Thanks all!!

Jodi

Re: And then there was a LEAK!!

Reply #1 – August 10, 2020, 01:47:15 pm

The best way to know where a leak is coming from is to use a thermal camera, if you are willing to buy one or can borrow one.
Several forum users, including myself, use a Flir camera which attaches to your iphone/android and saves you money using your phone screen. The regular one, not the pro, is good enough.
They are a little funny to read - giving you relative heat/cold (recently it showed hot for me but there was nothing hot to the touch at that spot), so play with it a little. You need to much with them some to learn how to interpret what you are seeing (e.g. a seam like where you are leaking often shows cooler because the air is cooler there, not necessarily because there is a water leak there). But it can show you the path of water so you can see where it comes from - yes, you need an active leak for this (you could put water up on your roof to emulate a heavy rain).

Second best, check all the possible places water could come in. Anyplace water can get under or thru sealant is a good place to reseals. I have heard where people put dicor on the edge of the eternabond especially at the short end, to make sure that is sealed tight. I would definitely redo the sealant around your antenna - there are a lot of cracks and you only need one to let water inside.
The area around your vent is difficult to tell of the "cracks" we see are letting water in or just where one layer met another layer but with a good seal.

Water travels - it comes in a spot and then follows the internal structure (following gravity going in the path of least resistance) finding places big enough to let a trickle of water go thru, until it either finds a crack to fall inside the LD (or sticks and bricks structure) or it pools up inside the ceiling/walls not dripping into the LD (or sticks and bricks structure). I have seen it travel 10s of feet in a house before it comes out someplace visible. And if you are seeing water come out during a heavy rain, it is very likely that with a lighter rain water is getting into the LD (ceiling in your case) but there is not enough water for it to accumulate at that seam to be dripping.

With an entertainment center, I don't know if you can get to the inside of the LD everywhere over the cab or if there is places you can't get to. If you have TV wiring in that entertainment center, it is very possible that wiring did get wet. Again a concern as there could be a leak up in that area you can't check that happens with lighter rains, but it only gets to where you can see it with a very heavy rain. In using my flir, I can't always see thru the cabinets, but it would get you the the edge of the cabinet where the leak was coming in, and you can use it inside the cabinet to see clearer also.

In your pictures, it looks like a crack beside the eternabond (going to the outside edge of the LD) in each picture (driver/passenger). Any crack will let water come in so I would seal those.

If you can't :
1) use a thermal camera or
2) can't find anything obvious outside and simulate a heavy rainfall to confirm you found the correct spot,
Then you are left with taking off some ceiling where you see the leak and expanding that area in the direction where you find signs of water damage (this can be just discolored but still solid wood - it is not necessarily rotted wood) until you see where it is coming in. It can be less destructive and more direct if you have a good idea where the actual leak is.
Jane

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Reply #2 – August 10, 2020, 03:05:45 pm

If it were mine: I'd plan to carefully remove a portion of the ceiling in the area where the leak showed up for 2 reasons. (1) You need to dry out the wood and insulation and whatever else is in there. (2) Since you have to remove a section to dry things out, it will also help you find the leak.

I wouldn't wait for the drying out part. Bring some fans and dehumidifier if you have one. Water can run some distance from the original entry point to where the leak shows up inside the coach.

Rich

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Reply #3 – August 10, 2020, 04:16:56 pm

Hi Jodi,

I am sorry you have this problem. While I don't have any answers for you about finding the leak, I am fairly certain your roof WAS NOT RESEALED at the Lazy Daze factory! The reason I feel safe staying this is they absolutely abhor Eternabond!! My understanding is they won't touch a roof that was resealed with Eternabond. If it was resealed at the LD factory, it looks as though someone used Eternabond after the factory reseal (maybe the owner was trying to fix the leak?)

Your photo of the front corner seam on the passenger side is confusing to me. It looks like some bare wood along the side? Is there bare wood showing? And your antenna area looks suspect to me.

It would make sense that the popped "fuse #9" is for the TV and the monitor that is in the stove hood.

Good luck,
Steve K

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Reply #4 – August 10, 2020, 04:38:17 pm

Jodi, you've receives some good troubleshooting suggestions, and I agree with Steve K's comments re: a factory seal job. The factory would not use Eternabond, and even if they did, they would not use several overlapping strips, leave seams apparently unsealed (what looks like bare wood?), or not seal around vents and antennas.

Leaks can be very difficult and frustrating to trace; I hope you're able to locate the source(s) with a lot of diligent scrutiny on all possible entry points and repair them successfully. One specific area that I'd suggest checking carefully is the seam between the fiberglass front cap and the aluminum roof sheeting; this seam was very poorly sealed on my 2003. Fortunately, I noticed the bubbling in the line of sealant very shortly after taking delivery; peeled out the sealant to find dirt, water, and "algae" in the seam! (This mess had not penetrated into the rig, fortunately, but only because I caught it early.) I stripped out all the goop, cleaned and dried the seam, filled it with polyurethane (what was used at the time; now, I'd use 5200 FC), and Eternabonded over the seam.

Good luck.

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Reply #5 – August 10, 2020, 05:41:16 pm

"Several forum users, including myself, use a Flir camera which attaches to your iphone/android and saves you money using your phone screen. The regular one, not the pro, is good enough."

A thermal camera can be very hand for diagnosing leaks (as well as for finding places where heat is leaking in or out of your rig or house due to drafts or poor insulation). The one most folks use, because as Jane said, it's affordable and "good enough," is the FLIR One.

I've attached a couple examples of how it works. The thermal image shows the path of the leaking water, which is cooler than the dry ceiling. The second photo shows what it looked like after I took down the ceiling paneling in that area: soaked insulation. The leak was coming from the overcab corner next to the fridge, and when I went up on the roof I could see that it was originating at the (former) FM antenna mount, whose sealant had badly deteriorated over the years.

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Reply #6 – August 10, 2020, 06:42:11 pm

Looking at your pictures, that TV antenna looks pretty suspect to me. I would assume the wood looking stuff is your plastic gutter. 3M 5200 fast cure is the ticket for those two seams. While your at it, look at the windows and everything else.

Jon

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Reply #7 – August 10, 2020, 09:34:13 pm

Thanks for the conversations about this issue. I am so disappointed and overwhelmed at the thought of another big project.

I am not sure why the picture looks like exposed wood. Thankfully it is definitely not

The orangish area to the right is the old weathered gutter. And to the left of that I think might be some weird shadow or reflection. However in that same picture there is a seam that I was thinking should be sealed with 5200 ( I was thinking of doing that seam when we did the windows last month but it didnt look like it had ever been sealed so I thought that was they way it was supposed to be.

I will see what I can do about getting my hands on a thermal image camera. Thanks for the link!!

Joan - the seam between the fiberglass endcap and aluminum roof I assume is at the very front edge where the flat part of the roof starts to dip right in front of the winegard. I attached a picture for clarification.

Re: And then there was a LEAK!!

Reply #8 – August 10, 2020, 09:53:27 pm

Sealing around tv antenna - should I scrape off all of the old sealer and start over. Should I use dicor?

Trying to figure out what these other antenna are for and if I even need them. I have a radio and a CB radio inside the cab but there appears to be an "extra" antenna.

I did just order a new shower dome cover that is on its way from the mothership so I should be able to replace and seal it down with these project materials.

I dont have my file folder with me - its in the camper 2 hours away - but if I remember the receipts correctly - I think all the vents / max airs were replaced and resealed in 2015 with the roof re-seal.

Possibly could get this project started this weekend if I have supplies - suggestions on what I should get from Amazon would be great!

Thanks!!

Maybe the other owner who had the work done decided to put the eternabond over the seam seals as precaution or because he new of a problem. hmmmm...

Re: And then there was a LEAK!!

Reply #9 – August 10, 2020, 10:18:09 pm

"My understanding is they won't touch a roof that was resealed with Eternabond."

I heartily agree with Steve K concerning LDs aversion to working on an Eternabond sealed roof. I was told flat out that they would NOT touch mine. They did agree to reseal all other areas where the original factory sealing had been previously used.

Glad to see that you are using the 3M rain gutters... rest assured they have nothing to do with your current problem (The LEAK).

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Reply #10 – August 11, 2020, 12:59:38 am

Quote from: JonS - August 10, 2020, 06:42:11 pm

Looking at your pictures, that TV antenna looks pretty suspect to me. I would assume the wood looking stuff is your plastic gutter. 3M 5200 fast cure is the ticket for those two seams. While your at it, look at the windows and everything else.

Jon

I agree TV antenna looks like it needs reseal leaking now or not. Perhaps the entire roof needs new caulking before any more leaks develop. That is what I did to my SOB RV last winter after repairing a roof leak. Rich’s idea of assessing Buried water damage might be the best place to start

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Reply #11 – August 11, 2020, 01:44:45 am

Quote from: JodiH - August 10, 2020, 09:53:27 pm

Trying to figure out what these other antenna are for and if I even need them. I have a radio and a CB radio inside the cab but there appears to be an "extra" antenna.

The “extra” antenna looks like a Wilson 12” 3G & 4G Antenna. Funny thing is, from the shape of the base that’s under the sealant, it looks like the magnetic base version. Did the LD come with a cellular signal booster or can you see where there once was a booster installed? If that is truly what it is, I can’t imagine it would work very well. That type of antenna needs a ground plain and gluing down a magnetic base on an aluminum roof is not going to work very well. If you must use a magnetic base cellular antenna, then use some adhesive to glue down a 8” x 8” or larger galvanized steel plate to the roof and place the magnetic base on that.

Good luck on resolving your leak.

- John

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Reply #12 – August 11, 2020, 02:36:22 am

"That type of antenna needs a ground plain and gluing down a magnetic base on an aluminum roof is not going to work very well."

Why would that not work? The aluminum roof is a huge ground plane, and my understanding has always been that electrical contact is not needed between antenna and ground plane--that's why so many magnet-mount antennas have rubber or plastic base gaskets to prevent marring painted vehicle surfaces. So as long as the antenna base is only a fraction of an inch separated from the aluminum roof, all should be well. Am I mistaken?

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Reply #13 – August 11, 2020, 03:45:34 am

Hi Andy; The ground plane doesn't have to be electrically connected. It is capacitively connected. And you can just glue the magnet base onto the roof. Now if you ever wanted to swap out the antenna, then glue on the aforementioned steel plate, and the magnet will keep it in place. Taller antennas can be knocked over by branches, etc. RonB

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Reply #14 – August 11, 2020, 11:49:00 am

I’m not trying to hijack this thread but I would like to explain my previous statements. Yes, the LD’s aluminum roof makes for a good ground plane, but all that is needed is a 1/4 wavelength radius at the antennas lowest frequency. At 700 MHz, that’s about 4.2 inches or a 8.4 inch steel plate. A larger plane doesn’t hurt but it doesn’t add much either. Magnetic mounts are capacitively coupled to the ground plane but they are not as efficient as mounts that are electrically connected. This is probably my bias being exposed here and others may have a different view, but it is backed by real world measurement. The possible application of an adhesive of unknown thickness under the mount just adds to the inefficiencies. If you can’t tell, I’m not a big fan of magnetic mounts. So good or bad, that is my reasoning... and now back to our regular scheduled programming.

- John

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Reply #15 – August 11, 2020, 12:35:45 pm

Quote from: JodiH - August 10, 2020, 09:53:27 pm

Maybe the other owner who had the work done decided to put the eternabond over the seam seals as precaution or because he new of a problem. hmmmm...

Or perhaps the previous owner was not exactly forthright with you? Definitely not a factory reseal, I’m afraid.

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Reply #16 – August 11, 2020, 01:11:21 pm

Thanks for the explanations, Ron and John.

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Reply #17 – August 11, 2020, 02:12:42 pm

Jodi,

I'm skeptical that your roof was resealed at the factory. We had ours done there in May, 2016 and they used a method that I suspect was in use in 2015, the same method they were then using on new motorhomes.

The new method involves a different sealant, applied cold and mounded up so as to create a ridge around the edge of the roof. The older method involved a sealant applied hot that flowed onto the roof and thus was fairly flat. I don't see any evidence of the new "mounded" sealant under your Eternabond. In fact it looks very much like the old flat sealant under the Eternabond.

If we assume that the seller was at least trying to be honest with you and something was resealed at the factory I would say that the owner himself or someone similar applied the Eternabond and then had the factory reseal the vents and other items that penetrate the roof.

The reason I think this is important is that if your only reseal is with Eternabond over the old original hot sealant then you are potentially dealing with one of the concerns the factory has about Eternabond, which is that if it is not applied carefully water can get under it and flow to a point where it might enter the coach, a situation made more likely if there is old sealant under the Eternabond that might have failed here and there.

On the other hand, there is ample evidence on this site that Eternabond works well when applied well, even over old sealant.

You might want to check with the factory to see if they have any record of your roof being resealed there, perhaps before the change to the new method or with only a partial job. Or you could retrieve the reseal records from your coach, scan them and post them here to see what folks think. In my experience though, LD records are often a bit cryptic.

Given the location of your leak it seems to me that its source is toward the front of the coach. If the coach is level and given that most LD roofs slope toward their center it is likely that the leak is flowing from somewhere forward or to the side of where the water appeared. From your photos this would seem to mean the Eternabond sealed areas at the front or front sides of the roof or from the satellite dish or the other antennas.

My suggestion would be to first try to find someone locally who is experienced with Eternabond and have them check its installation on your coach. If that person thinks it is OK then I'd move on to the antennas. As to those you should determine what they're for and if you don't use them you might want to remove them and then reseal any holes that are left. I'd consult with LD about how best to do that.

The antenna to the far left (driver's side) is likely either for the AM-FM radio or for a CB radio if you have one. The other two antennas that seem to be connected may be for some sort of cell phone booster. We don't use one of those so I'm not familiar with their merits but my experience is that cell phone reception is much improved with modern phones and towers and that boosters aren't necessarily needed these days, especially in areas like the east with dense cell phone coverage.

But if I had to take a guess my suspicions would fall on your satellite dish. I doubt that was installed by Lazy Daze and given who does market and sell that kind of stuff it was likely installed by someone who knew nothing about LD motorhomes or much cared about the result. It also looks heavy to me. That seam between the fiberglass nose cone and the aluminum roof is a known weak point in some LD construction. If LD was mounting a satellite dish there LD would have installed some sort of reinforcement under the roof to anchor the satellite dish to. I doubt that exists in your motorhome. And if the dish is not securely mounted then it is going to "work" against its mountings as it goes down the road, endures the wind both up or down and is raised and lowered, eventually weakening its mounting and thus perhaps creating leaks.

I would send photos of your dish installation to LD to see what they make of it and if they have any recommendations. I know these sorts of dishes that get you all possible channels and find the satellites automatically and all that can be very seductive. But my experience is that television has become less and less important to us the longer we've been RVing, to the point where we rarely take our satellite receiver with us anymore. If I was buying a coach today I'd probably skip satellite TV. That doesn't mean you should. But I would say that avoiding leaks should be more important that watching TV. So LD might recommend a simpler, lighter solution for satellite reception, maybe even one of the portable "Tailgater" units available today, that don't mount on the motorhome and thus don't penetrate the roof.

It's also possible that this leak has nothing to do with sealing or sealant. Our one leak in our LD, early on, was from a problem internal to our over the air batwing TV antenna. A new part for that, not any resealing, was the solution. That satellite dish looks somewhat complex. Might it have some leak in its mechanisms or wiring?

After evaluating the various antennas and deciding which to keep you could then progress to determining whether they are the source of your leak and what to do about that. But if you decide you're going to get rid of one or more of them why not do that first, deal with sealing the resulting holes in the roof in a manner recommended by LD and then see where you stand with your leak?

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Reply #18 – August 11, 2020, 03:12:37 pm

Thanks again for all the ideas and suggestions.

I would LOVE to see what the ideal sealant situation looks like - mounded or flat.

I will definitely send a scan of the LD sealing receipt when I get to the RV. It's hand written on a tear out invoice and there's an associated detail list on a sheet of loose leaf paper.

I will check out the antennas. I am thinking they may be outdated and not much use to me. We don't have cable at home and download/ stream and tv shows. Internet will be more priority then tv.

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Reply #19 – August 11, 2020, 04:38:50 pm

Hi Jodi,

You've been getting some good ideas and advice. I wanted to offer a couple of observations and offer up what I would do if I were dealing with this.

First off, based on the photos you have posted, your rig looked well maintained. Whoever applied the Eternabond looks to have done a thorough job. And based on the ceiling photo where there is a drip, it doesn't look like there is any evidence of previous water damage/mildew/mold. We can't tell if there are any soft spots which would reveal a long term leak.

I think Terry made some great observations about the antennas and satellite dish.

What I would do is see if there are any indications the satellite dish mount has loosened. Same with the air conditioner. There have been posts about the air conditioner needing snugged down. I would definitely cover that tv antenna mount with fresh Dicor self leveling sealant. Then I would get that rig level at home, use a hose and see if the leak is still there. (There have been a few times I had water drip in our rig that was coming in around the escape hatch and all I needed to do was replace the weather stripping. I would not start ripping out that ceiling unless I KNEW I needed to do that.

I think it would be interesting to see if the leak is still there IF the rig is NOT level. The drips I had through the escape hatch only occurred when I was perfectly level.

Also, were you using the air conditioning while camped in that rainstorm? Maybe the drain is blocked and the water was from the AC.

Good luck with this. That rig looks too nice for it to be a neglected money pit.

Steve K

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Reply #20 – August 11, 2020, 09:40:45 pm

Quote from: Terry Burnes - August 11, 2020, 02:12:42 pm

Our one leak in our LD, early on, was from a problem internal to our over the air batwing TV antenna. A new part for that, not any resealing, was the solution.

Terry - can you elaborate on this batwing TV antenna problem. What was the replacement part. I have a feeling this antenna is the culprit and its suspect the leak was detected after moving it for the first time. This was potentially the first time it had been moved in quite some time. The owner previous to me traveled minimally and mainly used the LD in his driveway as he was remodeling his house. I think that he probably had a cable line to the driveway and didnt use the antenna.

Another question -- how many of you use and pay for a satellite TV service that would require a subscription such as the Windgard. I don't think I will ever use it myself and just wondering if down the road it would effect resale if I pull it off the roof. I also think the technology would be obsolete by then anyhow...

Re: air conditioner - I actually have never used the air conditioner except to turn on the fan once to see if it worked. When I turned it on it blew a bit of black dust out. yuk! and I havent had time to tackle cleaning the filters etc. I was actually thinking of replacing it since its looks to be original. The AC shroud on the roof looks newer but the part I can see on the coach ceiling is yellowing and appears dated. I havent investigated an RV repair place near me that I would trust to work on it yet. Any suggestions in WI for a repair shop would be appreciated. Also - if I do go the route of a new air conditioner - suggestions as to a good replacement?

The rig was inspected by two separate places before I agreed to buy it. I know the history (as much as one can) and all the owners (3 before me) seem to have cared for it well. The person that had it the majority of its life was a forum member and is known to a few of the folks on here. I guess he graduated into a big class A. The guy who had it most recently seemed to take good care of it as far as maintenance is concerned but didnt put a lot of miles or money into it. Fingers crossed its not a money pit and I am staying optimistic that this is a fixable issue

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Reply #21 – August 11, 2020, 11:28:43 pm

Jodi,

As I think more about my old antenna leak to attempt to answer your question I think our leak was more likely from our Winegard satellite dish, which is not like the satellite dish on your LD, and not from our batwing over the air antenna. We have a much simpler manual dish that just receives one satellite at a time. Water was essentially dripping from the handle on the interior of the motorhome that we use to raise the dish. My recollection is that I was able to get some information about that type of leak off the internet as it wasn't an uncommon problem. The solution was to replace a part in the dish handle or raising mechanism. But that was a long time ago and I actually remember little about it.

Some Googling now does show that Winegard calls for some routine maintenance of its antenna mechanisms (something I've never done). If you don't have the manuals for your antennas you might call Winegard to see about getting some. You can also find some videos and instructions online by Googling something to the effect of "Winegard Sensor batwing antenna leak and maintenance." Or change "Sensor batwing" to "Traveller satellite dish" for your gray antenna on the front of the motorhome.

I think we had a different problem than you have because our leak was from the dish antenna handle and yours is from the ceiling. So before you get involved in disassembling and reassembling the antenna you might want to run some water over the antenna to see if that causes your leak to reappear.

Sorry I can't be of more help. As I said, this was a long time ago.

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Reply #22 – August 15, 2020, 07:38:16 pm

Working on the roof today.

I was not able to recreate the leak by dumping a few gallons of water on the roof. The Flir camera images looked the same before and after the watering of the roof.

To start somewhere - I scraped the sealant off the batwing antenna. I am assuming its dicor - its pliable and gummy. I wasnt able to get it all off but did get most of it off. Planning to clean it with paint thinner or acetone and then re-apply the dicor tomorrow.

Observations - a few of the screws that were covered by the sealant were rusty when I exposed them by peeling off the goo. Before peeling the goo off I dried the water I had dumped on the roof - after peeling it off there seemed to be water (very clean water) oozing slightly from under the antenna pad that is on the roof. Also, the plastic coated wire that looks like it goes into the roof from the antenna has a pliable rubber collar that isn't super tight to the wire.

One question I thought of is - Is there a gasket under the round part of the antenna (the part that rotates slightly) and over the pad that sits on the roof? If so, does that gasket get brittle and leak? How my holes are in the roof under this? I am assuming - 1 for each screw and 1 for the wire?

I did pull my receipt from the factory and y'all are right - apparently the seams were not sealed by LD. The receipt is attached for interpretation. Now I am wondering when they were done and if I should do them again or take a wider Eternabond and go over the existing seam?

Thanks as always!!

Jodi

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Reply #23 – August 15, 2020, 08:26:18 pm

Water inside the after you took off the sealant suspicious. Long rains show leaks more - a couple gallons was enough to get inside but not enough to travel to the ceiling and leak inside.

It could be the water came in the wire and then around/under the plate. The sealant might not have been water right against the wire.

Can you tell what direction the water came from (eg Water on X side of the antenna but wasn’t on the opposite side).

Or water might have come from a seam uphill of the antenna. A digital level like this one https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-10-in-Multi-Function-Standard-Digital-Level-THD9403/205999357 is great to show even slight slopes.
Jane

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Reply #24 – August 15, 2020, 09:03:45 pm

Bear in mind, there is a literal lake that forms on the roof towards the front of the coach during rains and that antenna could be right in the middle of it. Our old Tioga had an antenna that leaked, I took it off and patched the roof. Our current one could be in for the same fate at the first sign of troubles.

Jon

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