Best sewer hose practice July 20, 2020, 05:43:47 pm I'm right now with full hookups in Jojoba Hills RV Resort and might stay here for several weeks. I'm not quite clear what the best way is to handle the black and gray holding tanks. Right now I have the sewer hose connected to the gray water tank and the valve of this tank is open. When the black water tank gets full I close the gray water tank valve, switch the hose from the gray to the black water tank, empty that tank, flush that tank (and the hose) with fresh water, close the valve of that tank, switch the hose back to the gray water tank, and open that valve again.Is that the best way to handle this, or are there better and more "elegant" ways? Klaus 1 Likes
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #1 – July 20, 2020, 06:00:30 pm "Is that the best way to handle this, or are there better and more "elegant" ways? "The more water you have in your grey tank at the time of "The Great Flush", the better. Otherwise, what you suggest seems appropriate. So . . . depending on your "rate of fill" ratio between the two tanks, you might want to not have your hose lying on the ground outside of the rig except when you are actively using it to drain the grey and black tanks.Why - you may well ask??? Take a notice about you of the weather and the habits of the resident birds, and also ask other residents of their experiences. We had the unfortunate experience of having birds peck holes in our sewage hose to get to what they perceived as a source for water during a particularly dry season in Southern California. This may not be the case for you now in this location, but be on the look out for such. Taking a look around to see how others are dealing with the position of their sewer hoses in any given campground is always a good idea to circumvent this vexing outcome. Virtual hugs, Judie <-- Sierra Vista, Arizona Adventures of Dorrie Anne | Photographing the West Today: Royal Corona Bean Soup *********************************
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #2 – July 20, 2020, 06:04:55 pm I don't spend much time on full hookups, but I'll share my thinking.I only want to open the black valve when it's close to full so I get a good flush. It's no good to keep it open and let the liquids trickle out while the solids accumulate.After emptying the black tank, I want a 1/2 tank of more of grey water as a chaser.I tend to keep the hose on the grey tank, but both valves closed. Enjoy the longer showers and empty the grey as needed. When the black is 3/4 or more, let the grey fill up a bit and empty both (typically before taking a shower). I chuckle a bit at the folks who have long elaborate dual hose setups with supports and gutters and what-not. It seems like they're making things more complicated than it has to be. Maybe they know something I don't.Rich'03 MB in NC 1 Likes
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #3 – July 20, 2020, 09:07:08 pm Thanks. I will keep both valves closed. I will see whether it makes sense for me to empty the gray water tank alone more often than black and gray water tanks in one operation.Klaus
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #4 – July 20, 2020, 10:02:15 pm Following up on Judie's advice, we were warned about the ravens at GC South Rim. Well, we were warned. Wisdom is better learned second hand. Lately, I haven't been putting out the drain hose until it's time to use it, but then, I haven't stayed in one place that long either.Joel
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #5 – July 21, 2020, 07:37:57 am I am new at it, but I read a little. I wait till I am leaving, haven't stayed long enough to dump earlier. I hook up black and dump and then grey which seems to clean the hose quite well. I have a short green hose to rinse out the hose. My stuff is only out of the rv for that short time.
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #6 – July 22, 2020, 11:01:38 am I'm in the minority but our family has a rule of no pooping in the RV. Granted, we only take it out for weekend trips typically for now having little kids but so far its worked out. Keeps the black tank flowing when we flush it out
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #7 – July 22, 2020, 11:18:28 am "rule of no pooping in the RV"Just curious . . . what do you do instead? And why? Virtual hugs, Judie < -- 30 years of full use of black tank and never a problem
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #8 – July 22, 2020, 12:46:56 pm I had friends who had a Chinook; they owned the rig for a couple of years and traveled in it, and they never once used the stove, the shower, or the toilet. They ate out, used the microwave to heat whatever, and "patronized" campground/RV park showers and toilets. Their explanation of why they'd spent a boatload of cash on a self-contained rig if they weren't going to use the amenities? Their answer was that each had refused to take on the jobs of dumping or cooking (except nuking), so they didn't do either. (They sold the Chinook; somebody got a pristine rig! )I know that there are those who choose not to use the rig's toilet for "solids", but if I traveled with small kids, it seems to me that it would be less hassle/more convenient to potty the children in the rig rather than taking them to campground facilities that may well be a lot less than clean. Certainly a personal choice, however; whatever works for one might not for another! 3 Likes
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #9 – July 22, 2020, 01:51:27 pm Quote from: Joan - July 22, 2020, 12:46:56 pmI had friends who had a Chinook; they owned the rig for a couple of years and traveled in it, and they never once used the stove, the shower, or the toilet. They ate out, used the microwave to heat whatever, and "patronized" campground/RV park showers and toilets. Their explanation of why they'd spent a boatload of cash on a self-contained rig if they weren't going to use the amenities? Their answer was that each had refused to take on the jobs of dumping or cooking (except nuking), so they didn't do either. (They sold the Chinook; somebody got a pristine rig! )I know that there are those who choose not to use the rig's toilet for "solids", but if I traveled with small kids, it seems to me that it would be less hassle/more convenient to potty the children in the rig rather than taking them to campground facilities that may well be a lot less than clean. Certainly a personal choice, however; whatever works for one might not for another!You forgot to add: YMMVChris
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #10 – July 22, 2020, 02:36:36 pm I've always liked the looks of the Chinooks. Too bad they are no longer made. Anyone ever own one?Edit: I guess they are still made:RV Manufacturer | Chinook RV | United States
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #11 – July 22, 2020, 03:07:24 pm "You forgot to add: YMMV"----In so many words..... "Certainly a personal choice, however; whatever works for one might not for another!"
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #12 – July 22, 2020, 06:25:34 pm Quote from: HiLola - July 22, 2020, 02:36:36 pmI've always liked the looks of the Chinooks. Too bad they are no longer made. Anyone ever own one?They did go out of business in 2005, but Chinook RV is returningMy father owned a 2004 until a couple years ago, sold it because he wasn’t using it anymore. Took it out a number of times, for about a month total. Nice rig, drove better than any other Class C I have ever driven, very nice inside, but too much automation for my tastes, I don’t care for slides, electric sofas, no gas oven. 1 Likes
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #13 – July 22, 2020, 06:36:56 pm Quote from: brewersarcade - July 22, 2020, 11:01:38 amI'm in the minority but our family has a rule of no pooping in the RV. Granted, we only take it out for weekend trips typically for now having little kids but so far its worked out. Keeps the black tank flowing when we flush it out We had such a rule when our family of 5 would take long trips (4-5 weeks) in a rented Class C. Minimized times we had to find a dump station. Wasn’t an absolute rule, but if you did use the RV for #2, you were helping me with the black tank dump. But then my kids were raised on tent camping, so they were used to campground facilities by the time we took our first road trip at ages 5/8/10.That same rule was a resounding failure when I took 2nd wife to be on a week long RV trip, never heard the end of it when I told her she had to use public facilities when possible. She did not have a camping background. Have not heard the end of that trip.
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #14 – July 22, 2020, 11:10:32 pm I suspected that there are as many water, wastewater management practices as there are RV folks. Ours were developed over 30+ years of boating and they transferred well to our RV they include “If there is a shore side facility use it” and “If it didn’t go in you mouth it doesn’t go in our head” It works for us and we have a “yellow tank about 90% of the time and I never worry about TP hanging up on the sensors. As some one mentioned YMMV.Ken and Pat Warner Still Impatiently waiting for a chassis.l
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #15 – July 23, 2020, 07:00:54 pm Quote from: KJWarner - July 22, 2020, 11:10:32 pmKen and Pat Warner Still Impatiently waiting for a chassis.lCurious as to when you got on the list?
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #16 – July 23, 2020, 10:47:39 pm We went on the list mid March 2019. Todd tells me our chassis is on the line at Ford. In Jan he told us we were in the “next batch “ . We are hopeful it will be in the next month. We also expect the final waiting time will be about two years. I will let the forum know when we have a chassis and an estimated pick up date.Kn and Pat 1 Likes
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #17 – July 23, 2020, 11:32:33 pm Quote from: KJWarner - July 23, 2020, 10:47:39 pmWe went on the list mid March 2019. Todd tells me our chassis is on the line at Ford. In Jan he told us we were in the “next batch “ . We are hopeful it will be in the next month. We also expect the final waiting time will be about two years. I will let the forum know when we have a chassis and an estimated pick up date.Thanks, I’m 5 months behind you.
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #18 – July 24, 2020, 09:33:29 am Quote from: Joan - July 22, 2020, 12:46:56 pmI know that there are those who choose not to use the rig's toilet for "solids", but if I traveled with small kids, it seems to me that it would be less hassle/more convenient to potty the children in the rig rather than taking them to campground facilities that may well be a lot less than clean.Especially now. We don't use RV park facilities, anyway (very rarely even stay in an RV park), but even if we did, I certainly would not do so now what with the virus running rampant in most parts of the country. There's no telling who used the facilities last or how well they were sanitized between uses. In fact, I'm not sure RV parks are even leaving their restrooms open right now because of this very issue.
Re: Best sewer hose practice Reply #19 – July 24, 2020, 10:07:34 am Quote from: Linda Hylton - July 24, 2020, 09:33:29 am........There's no telling who used the facilities last or how well they were sanitized between uses. In fact, I'm not sure RV parks are even leaving their restrooms open right now because of this very issue.As an ex-medical worker I have always assumed the 'worst' before using any facilities. <smile> long before the current virus hit contagions have be in the human population. And most of them have be spread by humans getting to close to other humans excrement. Having watch over the years to black tank dumping habits of others have lead me use medical 'clean' procedures at all times in and about the dump stations and shower and bathroom facilities. glen 4 Likes