New sewer hose July 08, 2020, 12:28:51 pm Our sewer hose is old and worn. Replacing it before it leaks seems like a good idea.The existing 15' hose is a Valterra hose with twist-on fittings, it might be the original.Many of the replacement hoses have fittings on both ends and will not fit into the Factory storage due to the end being too wide to pass into the storage tube. Other hoses do not compress enough to fit the storage, 45" is the maximum length, when compressed.So, what hoses are others using and will they fit into the Factory storage tubes.Larry
Re: New sewer hose Reply #1 – July 08, 2020, 01:19:38 pm K.I.S.S. for me - Camco 10' Super Heavy Duty sewer hose. I inherited it when I bought the RV, so I didn't exactly chose it. I think I took the bayonet fitting off of the previous hose and transferred it to the new hose. Maybe it wasn't original? It's held on by a hose clamp. It's a black 45 degree fitting that barely fits in the compartment door when oriented in the correct direction. I very rarely use full hook ups, an this works for me at the dump station and fits easily into the storage compartment. RIch'03 MB in NC
Re: New sewer hose Reply #2 – July 08, 2020, 02:50:26 pm Similar to Rich, I used a 45 degree bayonet fitting (which I think came originally from LD) and some Prest-O-Fit hose fittings. The slip-on fitting attached to the end of the hose could slip into our LD's hose storage and the 45 degree bayonet would just fit behind the storage door. I don't recall if we had a 10' or 15' hose.Art
Re: New sewer hose Reply #3 – July 08, 2020, 03:30:50 pm For more years than I can remember (long before owning a LD) I have always used the Presto-Fit BlueLine sewer hose system. I never had any issues with the slip-on fittings coming loose and they were easy to undo with a twist. The kit comes with a coupler to connect an additional hose if needed, an elbow to use at the dump portal, and a four hook twist on connector at the RV dump valve. In addition to the above, I also use a Valterra RV Hydro Flush 45º clear plastic adapter at the dump valve connection to easily view when the water from the sewer tanks are running clean(er). If need be, I can attach the dump station hose (or mine) to this connector for an additional rinsing of the hose when finished dumping. I also carry a foam rubber sewer seal only for campgrounds that have that requirement. Best of all the 10' up to a 15' hose will EASILY fit in the LD hose storage housing even with the 4-hook connector in place. To keep the hose secured behind the storage door, I added a short bungee strap across the end of the hose (behind the door). The extra hose in the kit I stored in a storage container in the LD storage compartment above the sewer drain pipe (rear bath model). Web sites:BlueLine: <https://www.prestofit.com/BluelineRVSanitation.html>Valterra: <Valterra RV Hydro Flush 45º | Camping World;Rubber sewer seal: <Camco Foam Rubber Sewer Seal | Camping World;All items are available several places even though I referred to the Camping World web site that does sell these products. 1 Likes
Re: New sewer hose Reply #4 – July 08, 2020, 04:03:36 pm I've always used Valterra hoses and fittings; Valterra used to offer a kit with hose and E-Z Coupler twist-on fittings, but that particular style is no longer available. The E-Z Coupler now has attached fittings that are bulky and can be difficult to use. My current set(s) of hoses and attachments are assembled from fittings on these pages:Couplers, Fittings and Adapters Archives - Valterra.comSewer Fitting Archives - Valterra.comThe hoses that I use are Valterra, but previous incarnations of this one:Quick Drain Hose, Heavy Duty, 10′, Blue, Boxed - Valterra.comI also carry a full set of spare hoses and fittings and a 5' extension hose with appropriate fittings. This may be overkill for some, but sewer hoses and fittings are an essential pieces of equipment, IMO, and if they're damaged or lost, the resulting scenario may not be pretty. YMMV, as ever.
Re: New sewer hose Reply #5 – July 08, 2020, 05:38:36 pm Quote from: Joan - July 08, 2020, 04:03:36 pmI've always used Valterra hoses and fittings; Valterra used to offer a kit with hose and E-Z Coupler twist-on fittings, but that particular style is no longer available. The E-Z Coupler now has attached fittings that are bulky and can be difficult to use. My current set(s) of hoses and attachments are assembled from fittings on these pages:Couplers, Fittings and Adapters Archives - Valterra.comSewer Fitting Archives - Valterra.comThe hoses that I use are Valterra, but previous incarnations of this one:Quick Drain Hose, Heavy Duty, 10′, Blue, Boxed - Valterra.comI also carry a full set of spare hoses and fittings and a 5' extension hose with appropriate fittings. This may be overkill for some, but sewer hoses and fittings are an essential pieces of equipment, IMO, and if they're damaged or lost, the resulting scenario may not be pretty. YMMV, as ever.When my original was preemptively replaced last year, I replaced it with the 10' Valterra you mentioned (it looked like the original) and added a new attachment fitting which fit better in the holder. I don't have anything on the business end, usually just sticking it in the sewer hole and watching carefully. I carry a spare also.Chris
Re: New sewer hose Reply #6 – July 08, 2020, 06:54:13 pm When I had the Kwikee levelers installed, I lost some of the storage space for the hose. The end of the storage corrugated hose had to be shortened. The 'cheap' hoses with the thinnest material shorten up the most. So that is my dump hose, with no fitting at the end. Harry Wilson had the forethought to have the factory put in a second hose storage space on his MB, so I copied that and put a 6" solid ABS (foamcore), about 6 feet long pipe, across the back underneath the rig. It holds the thick material 'better' hose, with a park connection fitting at the end. The 'elbow' still won't go into the tube, so it is stored in a ziploc in the storage compartment above it. Each hose is a spare for the other. A TK just doesn't have much spare room. I haven't seen any parks yet where I needed that foam gasket, I don't carry one (yet). I don't leave the hoses connected, except to dump. Some parks that I have been in, require a 'slinky' support for the hose. I don't carry one of those either. RonB
Re: New sewer hose Reply #7 – July 08, 2020, 07:29:16 pm Quote from: RonB - July 08, 2020, 06:54:13 pmWhen I had the Kwikee levelers installed, I lost some of the storage space for the hose. The end of the storage corrugated hose had to be shortened. The 'cheap' hoses with the thinnest material shorten up the most. So that is my dump hose, with no fitting at the end. Harry Wilson had the forethought to have the factory put in a second hose storage space on his MB, so I copied that and put a 6" solid ABS (foamcore), about 6 feet long pipe, across the back underneath the rig. It holds the thick material 'better' hose, with a park connection fitting at the end. The 'elbow' still won't go into the tube, so it is stored in a ziploc in the storage compartment above it. Each hose is a spare for the other. A TK just doesn't have much spare room. I haven't seen any parks yet where I needed that foam gasket, I don't carry one (yet). I don't leave the hoses connected, except to dump. Some parks that I have been in, require a 'slinky' support for the hose. I don't carry one of those either. RonBCan I ask what the gray box w/ the dates written on it is?
Re: New sewer hose Reply #8 – July 08, 2020, 07:31:31 pm Larry, I don't have enough connection speed to search for links for you. With that said, I replaced my hose a few years ago. I bought a hose that was about 10 feet long and cut off and discarded the bayonet fittings on the ends. I removed the old hose from the original 45 angle fitting, put a little caulk on the fitting and worked the hose onto the fitting. I added a band clamp, because I did not want to take the slightest chance of the hose slipping off or leaking. I have no problems fitting the 10' hose in the storage space.Ken F in WY
Re: New sewer hose Reply #9 – July 08, 2020, 08:20:07 pm Quote from: Chris Horst - July 08, 2020, 05:38:36 pmWhen my original was preemptively replaced last year, I replaced it with the 10' Valterra you mentioned (it looked like the original) and added a new attachment fitting which fit better in the holder. I don't have anything on the business end, usually just sticking it in the sewer hole and watching carefully. I carry a spare also.I do not remember replacing it, it may be the original hose.Since the old hose has worked fine for our usage, I'm going to reuse the bayonet fitting and buy a 15' Camco HD hose.Amazon.com: Camco Durable High Tensile Strength Vinyl Sewer Hose with Steel...For $12, it's hard to pass up.I want a 15' hose, a 10' hose works most of the time but occasionally, an extra 5' would be handy. We don't have the room to carry an extra 10' hose. A 45 degree fitting for sewer connection threads on the bare end, along with a foam donut, it doesn't get used often.Larry As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: New sewer hose Reply #10 – July 08, 2020, 08:49:05 pm For what's it's worth--I don't use the hose storage provided by LD. A number of years ago, I screwed three large hooks into the plywood backing of the cover for my "spare tire" compartment. My hose is placed over the hooks with the ends hanging down. Easy to get to, and a use for "dead space"George & Jo Ann99 MBNashua, NH 1 Likes
Re: New sewer hose Reply #11 – July 08, 2020, 09:53:18 pm Mine packed it in after Quartzite this year. Replaced with THIS I first bought the 10 footer, but realized it was too short. As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: New sewer hose Reply #12 – July 09, 2020, 02:20:50 am Quote from: joel wiley - July 08, 2020, 09:53:18 pmMine packed it in after Quartzite this year. Replaced with THIS I first bought the 10 footer, but realized it was too short.That's why I wanted a 15' hose. The Prest-O-Fit hoses were interesting but only available in 10' sections.I looked at the Valtera hose but its's only 8-mil thick, the Camco I ordered is 15-mil thick, a mid-range hose. We do not need a heavy-duty hose, it's rarely left outside and when dumping at home, a macerartor and a dedicated 3/4" hose are used.Realizing I was overthinking this, replacing with the same hose, duplicating what has worked for 15 years or more seems logical.At $12, if it is a mistake, it's a cheap experimentSomeday, we may get to use it..Larry As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: New sewer hose Reply #13 – July 09, 2020, 02:34:30 am Hi Henness; That little box was the transmitter for outside temperature, to my inside temperature monitor. Accurite I think. Out of the way, not too affected by engine heat. AAA battery pair lasted about two years each change. Was in the picture.I have a fancier temperature monitor now. RonB
Re: New sewer hose Reply #14 – July 09, 2020, 08:25:35 am "I looked at the Valtera hose but its's only 8-mil thick, the Camco I ordered is 15-mil thick, a mid-range hose."---The Valterra hose linked in my first post is 15 mil; didn't see an 8 mil hose?Quick Drain Hose, Heavy Duty, 10′, Blue, Boxed - Valterra.com
Re: New sewer hose Reply #15 – July 09, 2020, 09:57:45 am I ordered the one Mike C recommend when I asked. The Blueline Ultimate. I like it.
Re: New sewer hose Reply #16 – July 09, 2020, 10:30:39 am Larry said: "I want a 15' hose, a 10' hose works most of the time but occasionally, an extra 5' would be handy."I agree. Some time in the past one of my 10' Prest-O-Fit (POF) hoses wore out and I bought a heavier mil 20' hose which (of course) wouldn't fit in the LD hose storage tube. I just removed the end of the new hose and stuck the old POF pushover quick connector onto the new hose clamping it with a stainless hose clamp. I then inserted that end with the connector into the storage tube to see how much would fit with the twist on fitting at the other end. That is where I cut to shorten the new hose. It was just over 15'. That modified hose has lasted many years and went with the new owner when I sold the LD last December. I will repeat this with the new coach during my modification sessions this coming winter. 1 Likes
Re: New sewer hose Reply #17 – July 09, 2020, 12:17:59 pm Quote from: Joan - July 09, 2020, 08:25:35 amThe Valterra hose linked in my first post is 15 mil; didn't see an 8 mil hose?Quick Drain Hose, Heavy Duty, 10′, Blue, Boxed - Valterra.comWhen searching, I looked at this one.Amazon.com: Valterra Products, Inc. D04-0120PB 10' Blue Standard Bagged...Many of the heavy duty hoses are heavy, thick and will not go into the storage tube.Larry As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: New sewer hose Reply #18 – July 09, 2020, 12:30:23 pm Another reason that I prefer the Valterra EZ-Coupler fittings (the red ones) is that the fitting that attaches to the tank outlet has four "prongs" instead of two.
Re: New sewer hose Reply #19 – July 09, 2020, 12:31:32 pm Quote from: Mike Coachman - July 09, 2020, 10:30:39 amPrest-O-Fit (POF) hosesI was attracted to the Prest-O-Fit system but the lack of a 15' hose eliminated it. I liked the idea of being able to easily attach a 90 degree sewer fitting, for RV park usage. I may still buy an adaptor and see it it can be adpated to the Camco hose.The $12 hose will work fine, as it has for 18 years. This isn't rocket science.Hoping to escape home in a week and a half…if these reservations are not canceled.I don't know if we will remember how to camp, its been four months, the longest we have ever been home in over 40 years.It should be like riding a bicycle, you never forget.Larry
Re: New sewer hose Reply #20 – July 09, 2020, 03:04:58 pm Glad you are finally able to get away, Larry. I saw this article of a recent study that ranks the risks for COVID-19 by certain activities and was glad to see that camping is considered a low risk activity. Have fun!https://www.foxnews.com/health/texas-doctors-rank-activities-posing-greatest-risks-for-contracting-coronavirus
Re: New sewer hose Reply #21 – July 10, 2020, 02:26:59 pm Quote from: HiLola - July 09, 2020, 03:04:58 pmGlad you are finally able to get away, Larry. I saw this article of a recent study that ranks the risks for COVID-19 by certain activities and was glad to see that camping is considered a low risk activity. Have fun!https://www.foxnews.com/health/texas-doctors-rank-activities-posing-greatest-risks-for-contracting-coronavirusI noticed that while the scale is 1-10, highest score is a 9. Are they leaving room for expansion?
Re: New sewer hose Reply #22 – July 15, 2020, 05:23:09 pm Since you're talking sewage hoses, Did Laze Daze fix the sewage system where you have two outlets? Like one for black tank and one for the grey? I hate having to hook up twice!
Re: New sewer hose Reply #23 – July 15, 2020, 09:52:29 pm Quote from: bree49 - July 15, 2020, 05:23:09 pmSince you're talking sewage hoses, Did Laze Daze fix the sewage system where you have two outlets? Like one for black tank and one for the grey? It depends on the floorplan and if both tanks are on the same side of the rear axle.What floorplan are you interested in?Larry
Re: New sewer hose Reply #24 – July 15, 2020, 10:40:23 pm Quote from: joel wiley - July 10, 2020, 02:26:59 pmI noticed that while the scale is 1-10, highest score is a 9. Are they leaving room for expansion?I’m guessing this would be a 10, Joel:Here’s Why You Shouldn’t Go To A ‘Covid Party’But the way, we are in your neck of the woods at the moment. Staying in Folsom and took a drive up to the Apple Hill area today!
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