Key storage February 10, 2020, 10:00:58 pm I'm planning ahead. Just wondering if there is a place to put one of these:Amazon.com: Kidde AccessPoint 001170 KeySafe Original Slimline Push Button... to store a spare key perhaps in the propane compartment of a RB? I say propane compartment because I've heard that doesn't have a lock on it for safety purposes (or am I wrong here?).Linda As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Key storage Reply #1 – February 10, 2020, 10:13:41 pm This was a question I asked about four (4) years ago.Strategies to Key SafetyWe've implemented a key security/storage strategy that has worked for us based on the above discussion.
Re: Key storage Reply #2 – February 10, 2020, 10:40:30 pm I understand where you are coming from but prefer to have my spare keys located inside the LD. The everyday keys, one set on my personal keychain which lives in my pocket, and the second set attached to the ignition key ring are always at hand.Then I have a steel lock box mounted in... well, lets just say it's in a convenient place, bolted to the shelf it sits upon. This box is roughly 8" x 12" x 4" made of plate steel.You may be interested in one or more of the products offered by Snap Safe. Amazon.com: SnapSafe: Lock Boxes
Re: Key storage Reply #3 – February 10, 2020, 11:16:02 pm It is kind of funny how asking about where to put a hide-a-key brings similar guarded answers to questions like "so where is a safe place to keep gold coins in your home?"For years I kept a hide-a-key in a magnetic box in one of the box welded sections of my truck frame. After dumping my black tank and driving home, I discovered that I dropped the camper/compartment keys at the dump site and couldn't get into the camper. The hide-a-key was in its place, allowing me access into the camper and a call to the camp got my keys found and headed back home.I'm guessing that a magnetic hide-a-key would stick to the top of a propane tank and a piece of duct tape would conceal it and add a little extra security.Now, about those gold coins...Harold 1 Likes
Re: Key storage Reply #4 – February 11, 2020, 05:55:53 pm Linda, I'll show you where we hide our spare key when we see you in May. Theresa 1 Likes
Re: Key storage Reply #5 – February 11, 2020, 07:47:59 pm It can be panicking to think you have lost your keys a 1000 miles from home and the nearest extra set.Through the years, I have found Hide-a-keys in many places, the two most common spots are under the rear bumper and in the propane compartment, stuck to the propane tank and usually not well hidden . Under the rear bumper is the first place thief is going to look, next, the propane compartment, since these are easy places for an owner to access.Personally, I would forgo the easy to identify Hide-a-key and use small gauge wire and/or tape to secure the key to an out of the way place, under the floor. Our spare key is well hidden and intentionally a little hard to get to, luckily it has never been used. I carry cut-down spare keys for the LD and the Jeeps in my wallet. To reduce the mass and weight, the keys are are ground down to the minimum needed to open a door and operate the ignition.Keyless entry and ignition systems present a whole new set of problem, extra programed FOBs can be expensive and not suitable for hiding in places that are exposed to the elements. While this isn't an LD problem yet, in upcoming years, keyless systems may be become standard and might already be present in your tow car.Larry
Re: Key storage Reply #6 – February 12, 2020, 12:20:54 am what are the pros and cons of taping one to the back side of the license plate? If necessary change out the bolts holding it on so you can undo them with a coin. 1 Likes
Re: Key storage Reply #7 – February 12, 2020, 04:26:51 am Hi Joel. I got a parking ticket in the mail, an overdue notice, from Moreno Riverside county for the motorhome. The catch was that I've never been there with the motorhome. Also listed as a green Honda. Not me. First thing I did was check that both of my license plates were still on the LD. When I called the police about the ticket, the first thing he asked was if I still had both of my license plates. I redid the mounting for my front plate. Lots of VHB 3M double sided tape. Button head Metric allen screws with the wrench hole filled with silver epoxy, and blue Loctite on the threads for the nuts. They are deep into the backside of the bumper. Double nutted (jam nuts) also. Hope I don't need to remove them anytime soon. I have a push button combination safe suitable for holding one door/ignition key inside a 'C' channel under the motorhome. Hard to find, hard to see and hard to get at. Just don't forget the combination. Amazon.com : Key Safe Lock Box Outdoor Storage Box with Code Combination... I intentionally hit a few wrong keys, so the first key of the combination is to clear it. The dust and water proof cover is a flat black and blends in well. I have had to use it once. I accidentally locked the driver door with the engine running while getting propane. All of the doors were locked. Wife 20 miles away at work. If I had some tools handy I could have picked the front door key lock. So I had a spare key in less than 30 seconds. I have a full set of keys hidden inside the coach. Now in 2017 I bought a used MB for a friend. While checking out the outside refrigerator door, I found a spare coach door key hanging on a cup hook. Very inconspicuous. not easily visible, but you could feel it. The coach door lock didn't work, but the dead bolt did, and this key fit that lock. I did get a key for the door eventually from the previous owner but it was tough to operate the lock. I could pick it faster than I could use the key. I was afraid someone would lock it from inside and then exit out of a front door, without having a key to get back in the front. So I wrapped that inside door operator, a pull pin, with tape thick enough it couldn't be pushed in. RonB As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Key storage Reply #8 – February 12, 2020, 11:44:24 am Ron,We had the same nightmare, but with unpaid tickets from Long Beach. Lots of them. More than 30. It turned out that either the dealership or the DMV had transposed one number incorrectly when we bought a new Toyota Tercel. The license we received for the vehicle belonged to a different vehicle, but had our name address, and vehicle model associated with it. The offending vehicle belonged to a woman in Long Beach who had the same year and model car as ours. She was able to park anywhere she wanted and we got all of her tickets. It was a three year process to get it fixed and the DMV was unusually slow, even worse than normal, to get anything corrected.Now we are EXTREMELY CAREFUL to check the license plate numbers and VIN's on vehicles we buy.Harold
Re: Key storage Reply #9 – February 12, 2020, 12:19:13 pm Probably out of laziness, I've never put a key on the outside of any vehicle. So far, so good! BUT - I know there is probably a problem waiting out there for me somewhere.I don't do THIS either, but always thought it would be a good idea . . . When out in a vehicle (not just an RV), wear a chain or lanyard around your neck with door keys to all your vehicles, plus keep an ignition key (or possibly a full set) hidden on the inside of each vehicle. When you get dressed, or when you pick up your keys to go to a vehicle, put the chain around your neck.Downside of this is if YOU are not at the vehicle, neither are the keys. Clearly personal permutations can be considered, but I think the basic premise is solid. In a perfect world . . . I would encourage all users of vehicles in a household to adopt this method. The odds of having to use it are probably inverse to the number of keys on chains hanging around necks!As an aside . . . when my husband's parents passed away, we purchased their car from the estate. One night, we were going to dinner with a visiting couple and CLANG, CLANG, CLANG was coming from the left rear tire. Long story short, my father-in-law had used masking tape to secure a key to the car on the inside of the back left hubcap, and years (many!) later, when the sticky stuff finally let loose, the key was in free fall with every revolution of the wheel.Since the clanging noise changed with the speed of revolution, it didn't take long to figure out what was causing it. Each of us stood at a corner of the car while my husband drove slowly forward. The location of the culprit was exposed pretty quickly.One of those stories that is always fun to tell! ;-> Virtual hugs,Judie <-- Sierra Vista, ArizonaAdventures of Dorrie Anne | Photographing the WestToday: Post-Op Feast************************
Re: Key storage Reply #10 – February 12, 2020, 02:26:29 pm I know this won't work for everyone, but Jill and I are both suppose to both have our set of keys on us. 1 Likes
Re: Key storage Reply #11 – February 12, 2020, 02:41:01 pm Quote from: Judie Ashford - February 12, 2020, 12:19:13 pm wear a chain or lanyard around your neck with door keys to all your vehicles, plus keep an ignition key (or possibly a full set) hidden on the inside of each vehicle. When you get dressed, or when you pick up your keys to go to a vehicle, put the chain around your neck.Judie,After 26 years of a job where I had to wear a lanyard with an ID card and other assorted trash cards, I'm ready to ditch anything around my neck when I retire. I'm leaning towards a door key hidden somewhere outside and the full set inside. Just was wondering if the realtor key box was a good possibility...I see that RonB uses one.Linda 2 Likes
Re: Key storage Reply #12 – February 12, 2020, 04:39:03 pm Thanks Harold. I grew up in Long Beach Ca. Lucky for me the ticket person had a digital picture of the offending parked car, and someone transposed a number. My description of 'Housecar' obviously didn't match their photo of the car. I still keep a copy of the letter I received back from the police in the motorhome, in case some problem comes up. Never did check with my insurance company though. Maybe I should call them anyway.... RonB
Re: Key storage Reply #13 – February 12, 2020, 11:27:10 pm Quote from: Larry W - February 11, 2020, 07:47:59 pmThrough the years, I have found Hide-a-keys in many places, the two most common spots are under the rear bumper and in the propane compartment, stuck to the propane tank and usually not well hidden . Under the rear bumper is the first place thief is going to look, next, the propane compartment, since these are easy places for an owner to access.LarryWe have used a Hide-key box, but the key in it is a storage compartment key. In one of our compartments we have a socket set and inside that box is a key for the door to the cab. Our rig, Island Bed, has the propane tank compartment and immediately adjacent to it is the locked compartment for the generator. The Hide-key box is actually on the frame holding the generator. We open up the propane tank compartment, then reach over “next door” to get the Hide-key box.To date (14 years) it has stayed in place.Mary Sue 3 Likes
Re: Key storage Reply #14 – February 13, 2020, 01:47:39 am Quote from: M.S.Ferrell - February 12, 2020, 11:27:10 pmWe have used a Hide-key box, but the key in it is a storage compartment key. To date (14 years) it has stayed in place.I like the double layer of security, were you trained by the CIA?Larry 1 Likes
Re: Key storage Reply #15 – February 13, 2020, 05:29:28 pm Have used this on 6 or 7 Suburbans and GMC Yukons.Holds a $20, $50 or $100 bill tooLocking Gas Tank Cap RESCUEMAN Rescue Cap Combination & Hide Spare Key... 1 Likes
Re: Key storage Reply #16 – February 13, 2020, 07:51:40 pm I always thought something glued to the black tank that look like some kind of black tank clean out would be an effective hide a key. Who is going to mess with that possible mess. 3 Likes
Re: Key storage Reply #17 – February 14, 2020, 01:09:27 am Quote from: John DaCrema - February 13, 2020, 07:51:40 pmI always thought something glued to the black tank that look like some kind of black tank clean out would be an effective hide a key. Who is going to mess with that possible mess.A piece black duct tape, job done.Clean the plastic before applying the tape over the key.Larry 1 Likes
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