Price help 1992 26 foot January 30, 2020, 12:35:45 am My wife were looking at rv’s and tripped over a used 1992 26’ Lazy Daze in great condition. It’s got a little over 50k on it, 1200 on the generator and except for a couple of lights everything seems to be in great shape. No real signs of wear inside at all. Motor runs great brakes, all of it seems great. There are a couple of spots of rust one on the bumper and one near the water fill. By small I mean size of a quarter.So I have no foundation for price. They seem to be above typical rv’s. I’m in California and his ask is 13,500. Probably make a decision in the next day or so. Is this out of line? If no, counter ideas?Thanks
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #1 – January 30, 2020, 01:31:46 am Quote from: Skitoolong - January 30, 2020, 12:35:45 amMy wife were looking at rv’s and tripped over a used 1992 26’ Lazy Dayz in great condition. It’s got a little over 50k on it, 1200 on the generator and except for a couple of lights everything seems to be in great shape. The 1992 26.5' models were built ton the lightweight E350 chassis with a minimal GVW of 11,500-lb, it is very easy to overload these rigs, there is so little CCC, it's not enough cargo capacity for most, so beware. IMO, unless it is a 23.5' model, any LD 26' or longer should be on a E450 with a GVW of 14,050-lbs or more.Buying a 28 year old RV is a gamble and unless you love to work on things and are a good mechanic, I would save up for something newer. We have seen some horror stories here with folks purchasing "nice looking" older LDs only to find they need thousands of dollar of repairs, more than what the rig is worth. Hidden rot is very hard to find even for the experts and older LDs are very prone to rot unless the roof and windows seals have be properly maintained, most older rigs are not. If you can locate a professional RV inspector, it's worth every penny to get an idea of what you are buying and an estimated cost of what it will take to get it fully operational and dependable. The cost of updating maintenance items, brakes, tires and batteries can be shocking, RVing isn't a cheap lifestyle or way of camping.Happy huntingLarry 2 Likes
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #2 – January 30, 2020, 03:52:15 am To get a general idea of prices, on the home page (when you first log in) is a link to average prices.These prices can vary on the specific LD.Used Prices 2019 EditionAs Larry said, walk into it with your eyes open. And know what your inspector is looking for, one person reported that nothing was checked for water leakage problems at all in his inspection report (not if they were found, were looked for, or ...).Jane
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #3 – January 30, 2020, 01:38:38 pm Quote from: Larry W - January 30, 2020, 01:31:46 amThe 1992 26.5' models were built ton the lightweight E350 chassis with a minimal GVW of 11,500-lb, it is very easy to overload these rigs, there is so little CCC, it's not enough cargo capacity for most, so beware. IMO, unless it is a 23.5' model, any LD 26' or longer should be on a E450 with a GVW of 14,050-lbs or more.Buying a 28 year old RV is a gamble and unless you love to work on things and are a good mechanic, I would save up for something newer. We have seen some horror stories here with folks purchasing "nice looking" older LDs only to find they need thousands of dollar of repairs, more than what the rig is worth. Hidden rot is very hard to find even for the experts and older LDs are very prone to rot unless the roof and windows seals have be properly maintained, most older rigs are not. If you can locate a professional RV inspector, it's worth every penny to get an idea of what you are buying and an estimated cost of what it will take to get it fully operational and dependable. The cost of updating maintenance items, brakes, tires and batteries can be shocking, RVing isn't a cheap lifestyle or way of camping.Happy huntingLarryThank you so much for this reply. We have a handle on ownership trail and all manuals service records etc. Feeling pretty good about the condition right now, I've crawled around and inside it with my light. I'm certainly no inspector but so far so good. I don't have access to the manual right now, perhaps you could help educate me on the carrying capacity. We won't be pulling a trailer, and 90% of the time it will be my wife, dog, and I doing weekends within a couple of hours. We are not the kind of folks that bring everything. Maybe a bike or two or a kayak or two. Enough food and drink for the weekend. Should we be concerned? 1 Likes
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #4 – January 31, 2020, 12:32:57 am I'd stick with what Larry said. His advice led me to keep looking, and I'm glad I did. Even so, I ended up with a '97 in "good shape" and still put in a fair amount of money on engine maintenance, new tires, etc., lucky for me, the seller covered the $1400 in generator repairs! Keeping in mind that new tires alone will add $2k to your $13.5, I'd ask myself if I'd be willing to pay $2 -$4k additional over the next year or so above the initial outlay.Good luck!!!
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #5 – January 31, 2020, 11:19:08 am Quote from: East Bay Ray - January 31, 2020, 12:32:57 amI'd stick with what Larry said. His advice led me to keep looking, and I'm glad I did. Even so, I ended up with a '97 in "good shape" and still put in a fair amount of money on engine maintenance, new tires, etc., lucky for me, the seller covered the $1400 in generator repairs! Keeping in mind that new tires alone will add $2k to your $13.5, I'd ask myself if I'd be willing to pay $2 -$4k additional over the next year or so above the initial outlay.Good luck!!!Thanks so much for the advice. I'll take it under consideration.
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #6 – January 31, 2020, 12:01:27 pm According to the 1992 Lazy Daze sales brochure, a Mid-Bath weights 9300-lb, minus gas, water, propane, cargo and passengers..This leaves 1700-lbs for all of the above.55-galion of gas, 385-lb60 -gallon water 480-lb16-gallon propane 68-lbTwo passengers 300-lb A conservative estimateThis adds up to over 1200-lbs, leaving only around 400-lbs for all your food, clothes, cooking gear, all the things are needed for camping, running an RV and your personnel items. It adds up very fast.You would be better off finding a E450 chassis. with the 14,000+ GVW.Larry 1 Likes
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #7 – January 31, 2020, 12:39:52 pm Quote from: Larry W - January 31, 2020, 12:01:27 pmAccording to the 1992 Lazy Daze sales brochure, a Mid-Bath weights 9300-lb, minus gas, water, propane, cargo and passengers..This leaves 1700-lbs for all of the above.55-galion of gas, 385-lb60 -gallon water 480-lb16-gallon propane 68-lbTwo passengers 300-lb A conservative estimateThis adds up to over 1200-lbs, leaving only around 400-lbs for all your food, clothes, cooking gear, all the things are needed for camping, running an RV and your personnel items. It adds up very fast.You would be better off finding a E450 chassis. with the 14,000+ GVW.LarrySo they built these from 1988-1996 and all those on the roads can only carry 400# payload? Makes no sense.
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #8 – January 31, 2020, 01:27:34 pm "Makes no sense."---LD is a great deal more 'transparent' than any other manufacturer of any RV, past or currently produced, that I'm aware of when it comes to listing dry/unladen weights and CCC for each of its models. You will find that real world, 'down the road' weights of RVs, regardless of type or brand or chassis, can be very difficult to suss out! The GVWR may be listed in the specs, but the actual CCC usually remains a mystery; plenty of RVs are overweight before adding a can of beans!You might want to familiarize yourself with RV weight terminology; one source is:RV and Vehicle Weight Definitions | Your RV LifestyleA low CCC can be doable, but one has to be very careful not to overload the rig and exceed the maximum GVWR; a heavy rig is subject to lot more stress on tires, brakes, suspension, and every other component, in addition to being more difficult to control and stop in an emergency maneuver than one which maintains a 'cushion' under the GVWR. As always, YMMV.
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #9 – January 31, 2020, 01:38:55 pm Quote from: Skitoolong - January 31, 2020, 12:39:52 pmMakes no sense.In 1992, the E350 had the highest GVW available . As soon as the E450 became available, LD adopted it.It makes sense if you understand how the chassis has evolved. More GVW is better. You can take or ignore our advice, as you please but we, collectively, represents a few thousand years of LD experiences .Larry
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #10 – January 31, 2020, 01:53:50 pm "As soon as the E450 became available, LD adopted it."---The increased GVWR from 11500 pounds to 14050 pounds was the primary reason that I waited for the 2003, the first model year that LD went to the heavier chassis for the 'short rig.' I travel solo, and pretty 'light', and even my 23.5' TK, currently at 11800 'down the road' pounds, would have exceeded the GVWR of earlier models.
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #11 – January 31, 2020, 01:55:01 pm Quote from: Larry W - January 31, 2020, 01:38:55 pmIn 1992, the E350 had the highest GVW available . As soon as the E450 became available, LD adopted it.It makes sense if you understand how the chassis has evolved. More GVW is better. You can take or ignore our advice, as you please but we, collectively, represents a few thousand years of LD experiences .Larryunderstood
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #12 – January 31, 2020, 02:07:09 pm Had to weigh in here, I thought at first this thread was referring to my previous one seeking feedback on my 1992 26.5' mid bath! Disclosure- I am at the computer listing ours as I read this. The ad will be up today.Regarding weight- I am a stickler for GVWR and knowing what my rig weighs, as a result of a serious incident on a work truck back in the 70's. So when we leave on a trip, we drive thru the Washington State weigh station on our corner, which is almost always accessible, and free to use. I track weights on my vehicle log spreadsheet. I can only report what we have observed, so more disclaimer about your mileage varying. WADOT scale- Dry weight- no cargo, one driver, no LP, no water, a quarter tank of gas- 9,238#WADOT scale WADOT scale Double checked this with a full tank of fuel, no water, one driver, a few items stowed- 10,280#, so we have a baseline.WADOT scale- Packed for a month trip, one driver, ⅓ tank water, full fuel, full LP- 11,140#Weighed at Henderson Line up, full gas, driver and passenger, ⅔ water, ½ LP, after one month on the road-11,650#At WADOT scale, full gas & LP, travel equipment & tools, no water, no passenger, no food, clothes- 10,720#WADOT scale loaded for 6 months, full fuel & LP, one passenger, ⅓ water- 11,560#We don't tow, and we are light packers. I empty sewage tanks whenever possible before travel, and the ⅓ water tank (16-20 gal) has always been enough. While I don't pack the tools Larry does, I carry a full set, plus the usual RV camp set up, spares, cords, hoses, etc.Just my experience, take it for what its worth, $0.02! I would never devalue the experience, it has been a great help to me. 2 Likes
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #13 – January 31, 2020, 02:14:03 pm Quote from: paul banbury - January 31, 2020, 02:07:09 pmHad to weigh in here, I thought at first this thread was referring to my previous one seeking feedback on my 1992 26.5' mid bath! Disclosure- I am at the computer listing ours as I read this. The ad will be up today.Regarding weight- I am a stickler for GVWR and knowing what my rig weighs, as a result of a serious incident on a work truck back in the 70's. So when we leave on a trip, we drive thru the Washington State weigh station on our corner, which is almost always accessible, and free to use. I track weights on my vehicle log spreadsheet. I can only report what we have observed, so more disclaimer about your mileage varying. WADOT scale- Dry weight- no cargo, one driver, no LP, no water, a quarter tank of gas- 9,238#WADOT scale WADOT scale Double checked this with a full tank of fuel, no water, one driver, a few items stowed- 10,280#, so we have a baseline.WADOT scale- Packed for a month trip, one driver, ⅓ tank water, full fuel, full LP- 11,140#Weighed at Henderson Line up, full gas, driver and passenger, ⅔ water, ½ LP, after one month on the road-11,650#At WADOT scale, full gas & LP, travel equipment & tools, no water, no passenger, no food, clothes- 10,720#WADOT scale loaded for 6 months, full fuel & LP, one passenger, ⅓ water- 11,560#We don't tow, and we are light packers. I empty sewage tanks whenever possible before travel, and the ⅓ water tank (16-20 gal) has always been enough. While I don't pack the tools Larry does, I carry a full set, plus the usual RV camp set up, spares, cords, hoses, etc.Just my experience, take it for what its worth, $0.02! I would never devalue the experience, it has been a great help to me. great info. thank you. We haven't bought yet and are actively looking. Consider that if you want to drop me a pm. Your numbers are probably about where we would be, but would not be out for more than a week, tops.
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #14 – January 31, 2020, 03:25:49 pm Has anyone had any recent experience withrv.org (The RV Consumer Group) ?At one time, this was a useful site to know everything one might want to know about just about any rig. I still have my copy of the 1990 - 1999 "The RV Rating Book" that is shown at their site, but I haven't been in purchasing mode for over ten years, so haven't kept up with their offerings.Virtual hugs,Judie
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #15 – January 31, 2020, 10:14:08 pm My $0.03 ($0.02 adjusted for inflation).My 31 weighed in at 12,600 when I bought it and added fuel and propane, no water.I rarely carry more than 10-15 gallons of water on the road. At Quartzite, I fill the tank in town before driving 2 mi +/- to park it. I dump the 'extra' water before leaving. That is one strategy you could use and pare a few hundred pounds.joel 1 Likes
Re: Price help 1992 26 foot Reply #16 – February 01, 2020, 11:48:27 am "So they built these from 1988-1996 and all those on the roads can only carry 400# payload?Makes no sense."Sadly all the consumer protection at the car and light truck level has no effect on medium and heavy truck buying. There is an assumption that buyers of this level know what they are doing. The 'mumbers' are available but the assumption is you are a commercial buyer know and understand what you are doing. The problem is RV makers are under no obligation to explain any of this to the buyers. It truly is a buyer beware situation. Glen 1 Likes
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