Lazy Daze comfort December 30, 2019, 06:14:13 am Planning to downsize from a 40’ coach. The Lazy Daze seems to fit our needs but a recent thread (31’ twin beds) causes some concern.We are looking at the 27’ mid bath. Several members described the twin beds as uncomfortable for lounging. I spent several hours going through a late model Lazy Daze but very little time actually sitting on one of the twin beds. One member described using a folding directors chair for seating. Is this a reasonable option for the 27’ mid bath?My wife is comfortable sitting on a sofa with the dogs so only one chair would be needed. We usually travel with two Strongback folding chairs so nothing extra to carry.
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #1 – December 30, 2019, 10:18:15 am We have a 2003 Mid Bath. The couches in it are fine for just sitting (lounging), but we found them too hard to sleep on. Seventeen years ago when we bought Daizy we just used an inch thick roll up foam pad. Ten years later it was two pads for each of us. A few years ago we went to a four inch foam mattress topper. They now sleep as well as our home mattress. 2 Likes
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #2 – December 30, 2019, 11:12:38 am We have a 27MB. My wife's favorite feature is that the twin sofas in the rear are comfortable for lounging and reading, and that the view is so nice with the windows all the way around. We have no complaints in the comfort and lounging area. We often have another couple over for hot chocolate and conversation and even with the topper on one end of the sofa, there is plenty of room for the 4 of us and a couple of dogs on the floor. I'm 6'5" and 200+ and he is 6'7" and nearly 300lb. The women are, of course, perfect dimensions. At my height, I just touch the AC with my head and often hit my head on the overhead cabinet at the entryway if I bend over for something and then stand up. The low ceiling is one of my gripes about the Lazy Daze. (Our Lance camper had 6'8" ceilings and the fifth wheel was way up there.)As for sleeping on the twin sofas; we bought a Costco memory foam topper and keep it folded on one of the sofas. We cover it with a spread in the day so that a certain dog doesn't get hair all over it, and then unfold it onto the sofas when they are set up as a King size bed. We used to keep it in the overhead, but it was a PITA to move it back and forth each day. The bed with the topper on it is quite comfortable.Harold 1 Likes
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #3 – December 30, 2019, 11:45:58 am Keep in mind that the beds in a 31' TB are actual beds although I haven't been in one. The word I got here is that they are firm but I don't know what the foam is from the factory or if it has changed over the years. I currently have a MB but am considering the 31'TB.In my current MB I need 3" of foam for a comfortable bed on the rear couches when they are set up as twins or as a king. When I use the couches as couches (no foam) they are comfortable to sit on. Hope this helps.... Frank 1 Likes
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #4 – December 30, 2019, 12:10:44 pm A LD is nowhere near as spacious or comfortable to live in as a 40' coach. We love our MB, but sitting around inside isn't nearly as comfortable as the couch or recliner you could put in your 40 footer. The sitting areas are pretty simple, without the level of contour or cushioning you would expect from house furniture. People will bump legs and elbows at the dinette, have to shuffle around each other to move in and out of the rear lounge, and passing in the short 'hallway' is an adventure when someone is using the bathroom or cabinet mirrors or closet because everything swings open into the space of something else. It is nice to be able to grab things out of the fridge without getting up from the table! Every RV is a compromise, but I promise that a 27' LD will feel much smaller than 67% of a 40' Class A. For me, the increased simplicity, reliability, and drivability makes up for all of the above. I still sometimes wish for a full size recliner though (without giving up the rear beds). I do think you could find a directors chair to fit in the aisle between the sofas in the lounge. One of the side effects of the smaller interior is a nudge to spend more time outdoors when the weather cooperates.Rich'03 MB in NC 4 Likes
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #5 – December 31, 2019, 09:35:52 am In the 27LD get those “barrel chairs” to replace one couch. The new chairs looks really comfortable. However, having a separate bedroom in the 31IB model is more appealing to us. But after seeing the 2021 prices, yikes things are getting out of control. I guess you get what you pay for. Seems everyone has money now so hard to find any deals anywhere on anything.Ron
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #6 – December 31, 2019, 12:28:15 pm We began our rving adventure in 2004 with a 26.5 MB. After 100,000 miles, we purchased a Class A gas and drove it for a few years and went to diesel pusher Class A. In 2017, we went back to a 27 MB as we were tired of the numerous maintenance issues that seem to occur all to frequently, plus we were ready to camp in more places with a view of something other than your neighbors sewer hookup. Yes, the 27' MB is much smaller and you will have less moving around room. But the ability to camp in many spots that would not work for a larger Class A and have a relative maintenance free rig far outweighed the size issue. We found the back to couches to be comfortable for lounging and sleeping. We make them up as beds, including a 2" topper, and set or lounge during the day and sleep on them at night. 4 Likes
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #7 – December 31, 2019, 03:00:56 pm Quote from: Morninghill - December 30, 2019, 06:14:13 amPlanning to downsize from a 40’ coach. The Lazy Daze seems to fit our needs but a recent thread (31’ twin beds) causes some concern.Out of curiosity, what is your travel style and why are you planning to downsize?As a reference, we started with a 30IB. Went to a 40 ft pusher a few years later. Had that for 13 years and only sold it because a project would keep us from serious RVing for a couple of years. We have a 25' Sprinter-based coach now, and while fine for shorter trips, for our style of being on the road for weeks at a time we very much miss some of the amenities of the 40 footer (namely the washer/dryer, larger kitchen, and hydronic heating/hot water).
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #8 – January 01, 2020, 11:05:07 am Travel style - We spend 4 to 5 months in RGV, 3 to 4 months on Olympic peninsula, rest of the year traveling. Gives us 3 to 5 months to explore. We spend time primarily in COE parks, state parks and boondocks. Would like to boondock more. Would like the improved ability for impromptu stops. The 40’ is doable but somewhat restrictive, mostly a boon docking issue.History - First traveled in a truck camper on a dually. Great access anywhere but minimal storage and limited seating. After a few years moved to a 29’ Safari Trek. Great compromise for size, seating and storage, but wife had a back injury and the bed from the ceiling no longer worked. Moved to the 40’ diesel pusher. The capacities and amenities are great but the size limits some travel options and the complexity takes time and money to maintain.Before we actually make the change we plan an extended test. We will empty the bedroom and all those cabinets. The large bay will be emptied and we will only use the small bay. The slide will come in and stay in. The washer/dryer will be turned off. We will only use 1/3 of the refrigerator. We will only use 1/2 of the fresh, grey and black tanks. We will do our best to approximate living in a 27’ coach. 4 Likes
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #9 – January 01, 2020, 11:57:34 am "Planning to downsize from a 40' coach. "Been there; done that! Our story is similar to yours, although we started with Volkswagen camper vans rather than a slide-in. Progression was from the VW's to a 22-foot Lazy Daze Twin King model - which seemed like pure heaven after four years in the vans. We vacationed in the Twin King for ten years, and sold it to go fulltiming in a 40-foot Mountain Aire DP, which we had for over eight years. Hubby came down with debilitating cancer and we could no longer travel in the Big Girl, nor could I handle it alone, so we traded for a 27-foot Lazy Daze Rear Bath in 2009, which we still own.There is no way to tell how our experience with any given floorplan would suit you, but I found that the openness of the rear bath made it feel more like the front two thirds of our Mountain Aire. The difference is that the bed, instead of being in the rear in a dedicated room, was now overhead. This did not pose a problem. I was still lithe enough to climb into that lovely little aerie, whilst hubby needed to sleep in the aisle in a special chair between the sofa and the two barrel chairs. This worked out just fine.Yes, we had a washer and dryer. It was a pain to use because it took so long to do anything that I usually used campground facilities. The refrigerator was an oversized 12-foot side-by-side unit. Very handy for a food hoarder like me, but the six-foot refrigerator in a Lazy Daze (or eight-foot in a 31' unit) provided just as much usefulness as the larger refrigerator. I never felt restricted, and I am an adventurous from-scratch cook, and we seldom eat out.We had one slide in the Mountain Aire, but it restricted nothing but floor space in front of the sofa, and between the kitchen and dining table/chairs. If your slide constricts more than that, your experiment may not give you an accurate picture of what life in a Lazy Daze might be like. We have not missed the slide out at all.Underbelly storage is the biggest difference. We had Joey Bed pull-outs on most of the huge bins, and we carried way more books and pantry foods than any two humans would need - just because we could - with our 4800# payload. The content of books can be had so easily now on electronic devices, and the proximity of grocery stores was never really an issue. (See: food hoarder reference above.) I like to be able to make anything that strikes our fancy at any time!I don't know whether we would be able to duplicate your intended itinerary with a 31-foot unit because of the low payload, but I'm pretty sure I could, given that it would not be a fulltime venture. A well-chosen towed (or not towed) vehicle can make a big difference.We very much like our Rear Bath model, but given the opportunity, I would change over to the 31-foot model in a flash. Times, bodies, and activities change. We are now 76 years old, and at this point in my life, as opposed to the mid-80's when we were young sprouts, the comfort of a Lazy Daze 31-foot unit seems like Nirvana to me.Best of luck in your experiment, and I would love to hear how it is going! ;-> Virtual hugs, Judie 5 Likes
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #10 – January 01, 2020, 01:25:34 pm We too mostly enjoy boon dock camping for all the same reasons as expressed here, dark nights, beautiful scenery, remoteness, etc. At one time I had a 33' diesel pusher with a slide and bedroom and found it to be very comfortable but a pain to maintain. Due to larger size, we were restricted from accessing many boon dock locations including many federal, state and local campgrounds (COE, Forest Service, BLM, etc.) I feel that because of the length and long rear overhang behind the back axle of the LD 31' models would also be somewhat restrictive in accessing many of these more remote locations. Another restriction of the 31' is due to the additional coach weight, the cargo carrying capacity is lower than the LD 27' models. Our 27' Rear Bath has the higher capacity at nearly 3000-lbs. We can easily dry camp for at least a week (and even longer sometimes) before needing to dump tanks and take on (filtered) fresh water. We do not carry bottled water. Due to our plant-based eating lifestyle, we always have our meals in the coach. The reasons we chose the RB over the MB is the openness of the entire interior, the large bathroom/dressing area, the absence of walls behind the front driver & passenger seats, one holding tanks dump location, and being able to see the actual black tank fluid level by looking down through the open toilet valve. The electronic sensors for the black tank are not always reliable. Even though the lower sofas are comfortable for sleeping, we like sleeping in the cab-over bed which we added a 4" full size memory foam mattress topper for additional comfort. If one wants to sleep in when the other is up, we just pull the curtain across the bed opening. We just sold our 2010 RB and will take delivery on the just ordered 2021 RB sometime this summer. When you have had the best built motorhome on the market, there is no reason we have to change to SOB. 2 Likes
Re: Lazy Daze comfort Reply #11 – January 01, 2020, 11:12:54 pm If you are short, a foot stool in the back of the 27' Mid Bath works nice. Did the trick for us.
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