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Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
Recently, LD has announced they will no longer repair LDs older than 1995 models.
A member of the Caravan Club, who now owns the only Class A LD in existence, was told this by Vince when he inquired about having some work done on it. I can't imagine that there are many RV manufacturers who will work on 24 year old rigs.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
Reply #1 –
Sounds like a business opportunity, Larry:  Larry's Old-Time Lazy Daze Repair Shop!   :D
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
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Reply #2 –
Quote from: HiLola  - 
Sounds like a business opportunity, Larry:  Larry's Old-Time Lazy Daze Repair Shop!  :D

I'm retired except for consulting.
Now if I was a lot younger....there are definite income possibilities repairing and enhancing old  and new LDs

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
Reply #3 –
Don't understand why they wouldn't work on them but it is a business opportunity. When I bought my 1997 it needed TLC plus so I got it pretty cheap. We took several two week trips with it and finished off with two months in Arizona and then sold it for enough to pay for all the repairs I did and all the trips we took including gas. Even had enough left over for a new mt bike.
Interesting this thread came up in here because I was thinking lately if I was younger I'd seek these fixer uppers out and make a nice little business out of it. Then again maybe I just got lucky and would never be able to duplicate that kind of profit again. One thing I know for sure is I'll never know for sure. My profit seking days are behind me.
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Reply #4 –
Makes sense - once the value of the rig gets low enough, owners are understandably hesitant to put any real $ into repairs. 

They might just be tired of people who score a 'deal' on craigslist and then want to pinch pennies over every little issue.  All of that can quickly take more time and hassle than a shop wants to put up with. 

Rich
'03 MB in NC
2003 MB
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Reply #5 –
Quote from: Larry W  - 
Recently, LD has announced they will no longer repair LDs older than 1995 models.
A member of the Caravan Club, who now owns the only Class A LD in existence, was told this by Vince when he inquired about having some work done on it. I can't imagine that there are many RV manufacturers who will work on 24 year old rigs.

Larry

Larry,
I'm sure you heard the story of the purchase of this beauty.   We were camping at Quartzite when they dropped in.    Loved listening to her talk about the history getting this bad boy.   


Maybe you could talk em in to sharing a few images of their collections.  For those that don't know these folks they collect LD's.

glen
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Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
Reply #6 –
Just made the cut with my 1996.
Jota
96 23.5 FL
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Quote from: colddog  - 
I'm sure you heard the story of the purchase of this beauty.  We were camping at Quartzite when they dropped in.    Loved listening to her talk about the history getting this bad boy.   
Maybe you could talk em in to sharing a few images of their collections.  For those that don't know these folks they collect LD's.

I will see what I can do when I see them next month.
With the addition of the Class A, they own eleven LDs, all except the Class A in operating condition. They drive a different rig to each the year's nine Caravans.
We ran into them and family at Death Valley a few years ago, with three of their LDs, all with their own toads, variations of Suzuki Samuris.  It's good to have a large barn.
Besides the LDs, they own Paul Newton's utility trailer, the one he pulled to dozens of Caravans.
Some folks love LDs so much they can't own enough of them.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
Reply #8 –
Larry, look at it this way, there aren't many RV manufacturers who's rigs will last 24 years. Unfortunately we  are at 25 years.
Oh well I'll just keep on keeping her up....

Jon
1994 MB
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Reply #9 –
Talking to Vince awhile back regarding my tank leak he mentioned that if I needed to bring in my LD for repair it would be February. Said they were swamped.
Maybe that's a reason also?
2021 Mid Bath
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Quote from: JonS  - 
Larry, look at it this way, there aren't many RV manufacturers who's rigs will last 24 years. Unfortunately we  are at 25 years.
Oh well I'll just keep on keeping her up....

Jon
We can only speculate as to why LD chose to do this but my theory would be keeping a parts inventory for older rigs became problematic. Things like body panels and end caps come to mind and if you suffer any body damage or hidden water damage that required replacement of parts you might find yourself out of luck. It's very common for companies to stop making replacement parts for their older products and really 25 years is a very long time in the scheme of things. I have a twenty year old mountain bike that was the bike everyone wanted in its day but in just ten years I couldn't get parts for it anymore and it's been gathering dust with an irreplaceable rear shock bushing for the last ten years.
Having said that aren't we supposed to be in a new era of environmental awareness and concern for "climate change"? Wouldn't a new way of thinking be in order and a new attitude be called for of making already manufactured products last as long as possible? Shouldn't the social and environmental responsibilities of this trump fiscal concerns?
Then again maybe I just have too much time on my hands to philosophize as I sit around healing up from a broken shoulder that I sustained in a mt bike crash. Going too fast for trail conditions is my story but my wife's version of events is an old man thinking he's a young man.
Which leads me into yet another time consuming pointless diatribe. My wife was in North Idaho for an Alzheimer's charity walk (she raised $2500.00 in pledges) when the September storm of the century hit and we got two feet of very heavy snow. She got home to find our three mile access road buried in fallen trees and it took her five hours to walk in around over and through all the debris. So now here we sit with me unable to run a chainsaw for at least three more weeks to open the road up. Good thing we routinely kept a two month food supply on hand.
Hope I haven't bored everyone to tears but im pursuing every time killing avenue open to me and pain pills seem to get me rambling. LOL
Pics start at bottom of road with very little snow and end up the mountain right by our house with two feet of the lovely stuff.

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Quote from: Sawyer  - 
.......
Which leads me into yet another time consuming pointless diatribe. My wife was in North Idaho for an Alzheimer's charity walk (she raised $2500.00 in pledges) when the September storm of the century hit and we got two feet of very heavy snow. She got home to find our three mile access road buried in fallen trees and it took her five hours to walk in around over and through all the debris. So now here we sit with me unable to run a chainsaw for at least three more weeks to open the road up. Good thing we routinely kept a two month food supply on hand.
Hope I haven't bored everyone to tears but im pursuing every time killing avenue open to me and pain pills seem to get me rambling. LOL
Pics start at bottom of road with very little snow and end up the mountain right by our house with two feet of the lovely stuff.

purely personal observation .......   makes me glad I live in the city.   This old man is too d***m old to shovel snow and chainsaw himself out of his home.    Just saying.
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Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
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Sawyer,  I seem to recall your better half was pretty handy with a chainsaw so . . .

Speaking of which I just purchased this chainsaw from Lowe’s last month. I’ve never owned a battery operated chainsaw but at 80 volts this sucker has some pretty good power!

Disclaimer, no I did not cut the pine round in the first photo but I did cut the sage in the third photo.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
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Quote from: colddog  - 
purely personal observation .......  makes me glad I live in the city.  This old man is too d***m old to shovel snow and chainsaw himself out of his home.    Just saying.

Living like this is not without it's challenge's but it's not without it's rewards.  For better or for worse we are addicted to this way of life and have already accepted the fact that it may someday be the death of us and they will find our frozen old bodies in a snow bank after our side by side with tracks broke down and we were unable to walk home.
This storm came as I was reading a book about another storm of the century in 1888 that killed hundreds and most of those were school children on their way home when the storm hit. Seemed rather prophetic at the time and really an excellent and informative read if you are the reading type. Excellent historical book about the settling of the great plains by European immigrants. Man those people were tough!!!!

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Quote from: HiLola  - 
Sawyer,  I seem to recall your better half was pretty handy with a chainsaw so . . .

Speaking of which I just purchased this chainsaw from Lowe’s last month. I’ve never owned a battery operated chainsaw but at 80 volts this sucker has some pretty good power!

Disclaimer, no I did not cut the pine round in the first photo but I did cut the sage in the third photo.
Interesting. How long can you run it in a charge?
Suddenly I realize I have derailed the thread with my musings. My apologies.
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Quote from: Sawyer  - 
Interesting. How long can you run it in a charge?

I’ve only used it a couple of times so far so not sure. It supposedly takes only 30 minutes to recharge though so just long enough for a lunch break!
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
Reply #16 –
Well Jota, that 1995 limit may be a moving 'older than 25 years' limit.  A lot might depend on what needs to be done. I would hope for some flexibility. All I can think that I would want, would be collision damage, cars or trees falling types of things. Other repair sources might take up the slack.  RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
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Quote from: Jota  - 
Just made the cut with my 1996.

Yes, but for how long?  With my '97 I worry that this is just the first cut, and that there may be more coming.
Hi, I'm Jo!
My little red wagon is a 1997 23.5 TK
Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
Reply #18 –
"I've only used it a couple of times so far so not sure. It supposedly takes only 30 minutes to recharge though so just long enough for a lunch break!"

A bum shoulder forced me to look into an electric chain saw and trimmer.  I purchased both from DR Power Equipment this spring.  Both share a 62 Volt, 2.5 Amp battery.  I've used the saw a couple of times for branch trimming and some light firewood cutting.  Worked fine with good power.  I've used the trimmer a lot around our place, including in some heavy weeds without any trouble.  It's advertised to last about 45 minutes, which is about what I've experienced.  Coincidentally, I need a recharge about the same time the battery does. ;-)  It has 3 speed settings, so for just grass trimming it could be run on a lower speed and run even longer (I think they say up to 75 minutes).  Pretty easy to restring without taking anything apart.  DR says one hour on the charger, which is fine for me.

Bill



Bill
2003 -- 23' FL
Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
Reply #19 –
Folks - this is a LD Tech topic, not Campfire.  Let's keep it on the subject of LDs.
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Reply #20 –
Quote from: squeakytiki  - 
Yes, but for how long?  With my '97 I worry that this is just the first cut, and that there may be more coming.
No longer have my 97 but if I did I'd be concerned too. Makes me wonder if it's going to be a sliding scale so to speak or if there's a reason for dropping 95 minus years due to some change in certain components post 95 and they just don't want to carry the invintory for the older ones any longer.  If that's the case you'd be safe for a while. If not you may want to get any impending repairs done a little sooner than you may otherwise have done. Clock could be ticking.
I watched a movie once about a serial killer that sent notes with clues to a detective to his next murder that always ended with "tick tock tick tock". Wish I could think of the name of the movie. Seems appropriate for the position you may be in. 😀
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Quote from: Michelle C  - 
Folks - this is a LD Tech topic, not Campfire.  Let's keep it on the subject of LDs.
LOL Us men get easily sidetracked when the subject of tools comes up. The electric saw would be a good RV subject in another thread though. Much cleaner and safer to bring an electric saw camping with you for cutting campfire wood or brushing out a road than a gas saw with extra saw gas sloshing around in some storage compartment.
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Re: Not so good news for LDs older than 1995 models
Reply #22 –
Michelle has a good point.
I created another post here to carry on the topic separately.
 ;)
Joel & Terry Wiley
dog Zeke
2013  31 IB   Orwan   / 2011 CRV Tow'd LWEROVE
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Quote from: Sawyer  - 
I watched a movie once about a serial killer that sent notes with clues to a detective to his next murder that always ended with "tick tock tick tock". Wish I could think of the name of the movie.

Good movie, it's called 88 Minutes (2007).  The detective is played by Al Pacino and the "original" killer is played by Neal McDonough (no spoiler).



- John
Fulltimer with a 2021 MId-Bath “Babe”, 1996 Cherokee “Scout” and “Bandit” the wonder dog 🐶
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Reply #24 –
I agree with Ron, many other repair places can fill for everything except body damage.  We might find some interesting repairs in the future - as long as it is water tight and the owner is fine with the look  it should be fine.

Jane
Jane & Scott
Currently have a 1989 TK  LD we did a lot of upgrades on.
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