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Factory Test Drive
Does the factory still allow test drives to prospective buyers?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #1
Greg

You missed Ed's driving demonstration. His the 'test' drive was a very scary and eye opening experience.
Have no idea if they will let you drive anything, a quick call will let you know the details.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #2
It's been a while since we were shopping for our 2016 TK, Greg. But at that time, Todd was eager for us to take a test drive. I remember that day and thinking he'd be intimidated by our Mercedes Sprinter Roadtrek that he saw us drive up in. But he was very confident we would like driving the LD even more than what we arrived in.

I wouldn't say we like it more, it felt different - a Cadillac compared to a Camry - something like that. The Mercedes felt sporty, nimble, fast. The LD felt floaty, comfortable, a bit sluggish - but it had ample power and we knew it would feel different since it was so much larger and heavier.

We've grown to love the ride.  I hope you get to test drive one and let us know how it goes,

Best,
Jim & Deb
Santa Cruz, California

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #3
Thanks Larry and Jim. I will give Todd a call and see if I can set up a test drive when we visit in October.

Do they use the floor models when they do test drives?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #4
When we took our test drive in 2012, we used a floor model.  Todd took it off the lot onto busy Mission Blvd., then at a stop light we switched places.  He had me take a few right turns only, to get back to the store.  I remember Todd saying you drive it like a car.  IMHO, not quite accurate!

Bob
2011 MB

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #5
We may have been among the last to, uh, experience having Ed Newton start us on our test drive. His son and another had to lift the aged Ed into the driver’s seat so that he could take us out of the showroom and on to the street. He went up the main road at an alarming rate and barely braked for a right hand turn onto a secondary street where he stopped to let me take over. My shakes were due less to my first-time effort than to Ed’s enthusiastic demonstration of the LD’s handling. — Jon
(Former) ‘06 TK “Albatross.” And (former) Vespa 250.   Alas, no more; both are gone.😕 Great memories remain! 😄

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #6
Thanks Larry and Jim. I will give Todd a call and see if I can set up a test drive when we visit in October.

Do they use the floor models when they do test drives?

Greg, our test drive was in a floor model, too.

Hope things are great down in Tehachapi,
Jim & Deb
Santa Cruz, California

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #7
We may have been among the last to, uh, experience having Ed Newton start us on our test drive. His son and another had to lift the aged Ed into the driver’s seat so that he could take us out of the showroom and on to the street. He went up the main road at an alarming rate and barely braked for a right hand turn onto a secondary street where he stopped to let me take over. My shakes were due less to my first-time effort than to Ed’s enthusiastic demonstration of the LD’s handling. — Jon

Among LD old-timers, Ed's test drives were legendary, a rite of passage for new buyers.
Ed's claim that no one had ever died in an LD accident were hardly comforting.  There's always the first time.

Larry










Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #8
Ed was plenty "aged" when he took me for a test ride three years earlier, but at least he could get into the cab without assistance! I had the same "E ticket" experience as Jon reported; we careened around the neighborhood, whipping from side to side, braking suddenly, and cornering at alarming angles, with Ed praising the ride and handling capabilities of the LD. The ride after I took the wheel was considerably more sedate!  :o  AFAIK, test rides now are much less "energetic"!  
2003 TK has a new home

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #9
Jim, did you end up purchasing the Bilstien shocks because of the comparatively “floaty” ride?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #10
When Marie and I went to the factory in August of 2016, Todd let both of us drive the 27' floor model.  I'm sure he would still allow it, but a call first would be smart
David
David and Marie Philbrick
Proud former 2017 27' MB Owners

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #11
It's really a shame that newer LD  owners didn't experience the Ed Newton test drive.  Once we left the factory Ed sped down the street whipping the steering wheel left and right while talking about how stable it was.  All six wheels were barely on the pavement as we rounded a corner and came to a swift halt. 

Ed looked over at me and said it's your turn.  I was scared to get behind the wheel, but anything was better than riding with Ed driving! 

The purchase process was interesting as well, but that's for another time.

We are in our seventeenth fabulous season with our mid bath having travelled 130,00 miles, camped in all of the lower forty eight states plus five Canadian provinces and spent 714 nights in "Daisy".

That experience includes being a member of the Northeast Lazy Daze Caravan Club for sixteen of those years.  Lazy Daze owners are a nice bunch of folks and IMHO  the NELD  group is the best of the best!
2003 MB

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #12
Do you think Todd would mind if someone did an “Ed” test drive?  😉
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #13
Jim, did you end up purchasing the Bilstien shocks because of the comparatively “floaty” ride?

No, Greg, we bought ours with whatever it comes standard with. It did take me a few trips before I got used to driving it. At first I felt that it wanted to "wander" all over the road. But, after I'd say about 1,000 miles I realized I needed to completely relax and just let it follow the road and only barely steer it. It's totally different than our Mercedes Sprinter was and our Westy, too.

I've gotten used to it now and don't feel like I need to change anything. But, I can understand why people might.

Best,
Jim & Deb
Santa Cruz, California

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #14
"I've gotten used to it now and don't feel like I need to change..."

Some would say that familiarity breeds complacency! I would rather have someone familiar with my vehicle tell me what's right and what's wrong.

That is exactly what happens when you patronize Hendersen's Lineup in Grants Pass, OR. They want to know what's right or wrong before suggesting any changes.   :o   ;D  That may be why they've had at least five chances in the past 15 years.  ;)
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #15
"I've gotten used to it now and don't feel like I need to change..."

Some would say that familiarity breeds complacency!


Oh, we're anything but complacent, Lazy Bones. But, we err on the side of trusting that Lazy Daze/Ford knows what they're doing in designing RVs/trucks, that's all. At 30K now with our TK, we both love driving it.

I don't know what Henderson's in Grants Pass is - a RV repair place? Should we avoid it?

Thanks,
Jim & Deb
Santa Cruz, California

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #16
Just called and spoke with Todd and confirmed that they still do test drives and use the floor models for that purpose. Currently on the showroom floor: a 24’ TK and 27’ MB.

No mention of Ed and his hot rodding skills.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #17

I don't know what Henderson's in Grants Pass is - a RV repair place? Should we avoid it?

Thanks,
Jim & Deb
Santa Cruz, California

I am the exception. Henderson's has nothing that I want. I met the guy some years back. I asked a basic question about the caster setting as the rig comes from Ford. He refused to answer my question. Snake oil in my opinion.

Now read all the wonderful reports from people that spent $2,000+ trying to improve on Ford.
Don & Dorothy
Sold our LD in June of 2023

Our boring always non-PC travel blog
Traveling Dorothy

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #18
I didnt want to chime in on Hendersons as I know they are held in high regards by many. Because i travel to Oregon and go right by their place I tried more than once to get estimates on tow packages. They tried to sell me things i didnt ask for like suspension work but never would return my calls on a tow package installation. Just one opinion and one person that is going elsewhere.
Randy

2019 MB

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #19
Since this thread is about factory test drives, perhaps someone could start a new thread on Henderson’s/ suspension upgrades? 🤔
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #20
"I tried more than once to get estimates on tow packages."

Randy

Would you go to a Soda Fountain expecting to get a beer?

Henderson's forte is NOT tow packages!  ::)
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!


Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #22
Hendersons does sell tow packages, well at least Roadmaster tow bars and 5th wheel hitches.
     "w bars, anti-sway bars and other products; Koni shock absorbers, SuperSprings, Pacbrake exhaust brakes and air suspension, Banks, Safe-T-Plus, MOR/ryde, 5th Airborne 5th wheel hitches, Trailair suspension and more......."     RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB

 
Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #23
Well since this soda shop offered to "Sell me a beer" after inquiring since I passed the place on several occasions. I wont mention a specific persons name but he said yes we install tow packages. But we also do suspension work which you may need on your brand new motor home. i explained i wasnt interested in suspension work and am in need of a tow package. He said he would get back to me (more than once) and never did. But i will say if they sell beer, i might put more confidence in them. Until then "Snake Oil" sounds more appropriate to me. However i do appreciate the analogy :) With that being said and us being likely neighbors on the Morro Bay GTG which i am looking very forward to being there with all you who have been the influence for me to buy a LD. I will offer to bring beer. I will be passing Hendersons possibly several times between now and then. I may call them about beer, but I doubt they will return my call :). BUT there is Firestone and Barrel House Breweries right down the road from Morro Bay and  I will gladly volunteer to bring some of the local offerings. There is also a great amount of awesome restaurants too in the area. As someone ( a very knowledgeable person to the Morro Bay GTG's, I dont like to mention names unless given permission) mentioned last year the Bay Cafe and many others in the Morro area are awesome.
Randy

2019 MB

Re: Factory Test Drive
Reply #24
Since the thread is wandering from test drives to Henderson's and snake oil,  I just thought I'd toss in a good word for the original Snake Oil
Joel
Joel & Terry Wiley
dog Zeke
2013  31 IB   Orwan   / 2011 CRV Tow'd LWEROVE