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The long RV journey ends. I hope.
We started out backpacking in our twenties then car camping with tents and then our first RV which was a 79 Chevy van. It was one of those vans with shag carpet on the floor and ceiling and wood paneling and nothing else. We loved it because of no hassles setting up a tent. We just slept on the floor and we had plenty of room for camp gear. That lasted nearly ten years and then we got a camper to mount on our F-250 4x4 turbo diesel. It was a house in the back of a pickup with every modern convenience and we loved it too. Spent many years camping in some of the most remote desert locations you can imagine. I would put it in low range 1st gear and crawl just about anywhere. Then it somehow got too small for my wife and we bought a 27 ft trailer that was a house on wheels. It was very nice with lots of room and storage but we really couldn't go anywhere with it but campgrounds and even then finding a spot we fit into was problematic. Sold it and looked for a happy medium. Something bigger than a camper but small enough to fit into campsites and be able to go up dirt roads without pre scouting a turnaround. After extensive research we decided on an LD and we're not disappointed in quality or in where we could go with it. It really got around very well all things considered. Still though we found that in today's world the accessable boondocking sites were too crowded for us and we longed for those empty campsites over the horizon and down that too rough for the masses dirt road so we sold it and decided on a smaller 17ft trailer set up for bad roads. Problem is as with class C RVs most of the stuff out there is junk. Then the universe smiled on us and we saw an add for a used Casita with raised axle kit, oversized tires, extra fresh water tank and solar panels and it was close by and cheap! It belonged to an old farmer who recently passed away and his kids were selling all his stuff as fast as they could for whatever they could get. He also had a small sawmill and I bought some tools he had for my sawmill but that's another story.
Anyway we got the trailer home and found some hand drawn maps in a drawer of campsites this guy wanted to remember and it was really weird but one of them was a place we boondocked this spring where we took a bike ride up a road and found some great remote campsites the LD would never reach. I think it's a sign our search has ended and we found the perfect RV for us. 
Enjoyed my time here but am off to the Casita forum and hope I leave behind some grass and flowers here as per my life slogan for lack of a better word.
" What kind of seed do you sow? When you look back do you see grass and flowers or thistle and weed?

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Reply #1
No reason you can't belong to both groups.  I'm still a member of the Fiberglass RV forum because before I found my Lazy Daze I considered getting one of those.  And Andy Baird has an Airstream now and he's still here. 





Besides........you'll miss us.  ;D
Hi, I'm Jo!
My little red wagon is a 1997 23.5 TK

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Reply #2
Hi Sawyer,

Just a few random thoughts. First of all, when making a long post, it’s much easier on your reader’s eyes if you use paragraphs.

Secondly, congratulations on finding the perfect RV for you and your wife!
As Jo said, you can stick around here if you would like. There are many former owners here, me being one of them.

Lastly, I’ve spent some time on the Casita forum and you’ll find them a great group of folks, like here on LDO. There are numerous Casita and fiberglass rallies throughout the country, if you decide you want to get out of the woods and socialize a bit.

Good luck and happy RVing!
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

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Reply #3
"Just a few random thoughts. First of all, when making a long post, it's much easier on your reader's eyes if you use paragraphs."

 Hey I did throw in a paragraph.LOL

I did post that as a long rambling thought just the way it came into my brain though and your constructive criticism is accepted in the spirit it was given.  :)
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Reply #4
"I think it's a sign our search has ended..."

Déjàvu Sawyer, happy trails to you!   :)   8)
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!

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Reply #5
Sawyer,
I've enjoyed your posts.

Good luck with the next RV adventure.

Drop in here and comment now and then.  Feel free to be the contrarian.  It keeps things interesting and gives our hard-working moderators a reason to stay on their toes.

How about them short paragraphs?

Harold
2014 27 MB
Towd: Either the Jeep Wrangler or trailer containing the BMW R1200GS and 2 E-bicycles
Happy wife=Happy life

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Reply #6
Sawyer,
I've enjoyed your posts.

Good luck with the next RV adventure.

Drop in here and comment now and then.  Feel free to be the contrarian.  It keeps things interesting and gives our hard-working moderators a reason to stay on their toes.

How about them short paragraphs?

Harold

 "It keeps things interesting and gives our hard-working moderators a reason to stay on their toes."

Now, Harold. Don't be stirring up the pot.  ;)

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB

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Reply #7
Can I post my delicious Apache pack rat recipe? Please please please? Just kidding. lol
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Reply #8
I've always told my carnivorous son that you kill it, you eat it.  Rats are the exception.  He used to hunt rats in the orchard with a air rifle for a bounty of $5/rat.  He now regularly supplements his diet with fish and game.

Please do post the pack rat recipe.  I may change his guidelines.

Harold
2014 27 MB
Towd: Either the Jeep Wrangler or trailer containing the BMW R1200GS and 2 E-bicycles
Happy wife=Happy life

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Reply #9
"...delicious Apache pack rat recipe?"

Ah now, there's a world of difference between a Pack Rat and a Norway Rat or a Roof Rat! How about a Nutria, does he count as a 'rat'?   ;D  ;)
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!

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Reply #10
Mike,

Your input here on LDO is always welcome. Like you, many of us have ventured into the great outdoors in all manner of ways through a wide variety of camping styles. Glad you found your perfect fit.

Enjoy your Casita. I saw quite a few gathered together on our last trip to Watchman CG in Zion. Should be very easy to tow.

Kent

2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"

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Reply #11
Sawyer,  I have no idea how (or why ) one resigns from the FOLD.
I think you just transition to the LDAA (LazyDaze Alumni Association).
Did you name your LD "FREEBIE" yet?
Joel
Joel & Terry Wiley
dog Zeke
2013  31 IB   Orwan   / 2011 CRV Tow'd LWEROVE

 
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Reply #12
"I'm still a member of the Fiberglass RV forum because before I found my Lazy Daze I considered getting one of those. And Andy Baird has an Airstream now and he's still here."

And then there's my new "summer cottage" rig, which I'm currently renovating...
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #13
And then there's my new "summer cottage" rig, which I'm currently renovating...
What is the mission of the "summer cottage", and how does it differ from the Airstream? My wife dreams of the day we no longer tow a 34' glider trailer, and can choose a longer motorhome, or even a travel trailer  :)
2005 Jayco 24SS

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"What is the mission of the 'summer cottage,' and how does it differ from the Airstream?"

Well, it's 13' long instead of 27'. And it only weighs about 1,800 pounds loaded, so I can tow it with the Subaru Outback shown in the photo. Which brings me to the mission: fair-weather RVing with a light and nimble rig (it's a 2014 Trillium, by the way). The Airstream will become a movable homebase--one that moves maybe a couple of times a year.

And the F-250 pickup will go away. That was my main reason for making this change: after two years of Airstream plus truck, I came to realize that while towing my Airstream with a pickup is much more pleasant than driving a 2003 Lazy Daze, running errands in town in a pickup is much less enjoyable than doing it in the Subaru Forester that I used to tow behind my Lazy Daze. As a daily driver, the pickup feels huge and clumsy. Parking is a pain, both because of the truck's size and because of its large turning radius. Over time I grew to hate it, so I decided to sell it. When I want to move the Airstream, I'll hire a driver or rent a truck. The Outback, by contrast, is a pleasure to drive around town. I bought the six-banger (3.6R) model, which has plenty of pulling power for this small trailer.

My plan is to spend winters in the Airstream, probably plugged in, and travel in the Trillium in the warmer months. I'll try it and see how I like it. But first, of course, I'm doing upgrades to both car and trailer. That process has stretched out over more months than I'd like to admit.

I've removed the rear seats from the car, and built a platform extending from front seats to tailgate, with storage underneath. I've installed my 50-liter compressor fridge, and will be adding a 170W solar panel and controller, plus group 27 AGM battery, so it will run 24/7 completely independent of the car's electrical system.

The trailer is getting a major makeover. I've completely rewired the 12 VDC system, using all marine-grade components and wire. I'll be mounting a 140W solar panel on the roof (that's the largest that will fit). I've taken the cheap 70 Ah flooded-cell battery off the tongue and installed a 150 Ah Victron lithium battery under the bed, thus reducing the tongue weight. I removed the water heater (there's no shower or bathroom, so why bother?), and replaced the power-hungry, noisy forced-air furnace with a Wave 3 catalytic heater. Normally I don't recommend using one of those as the sole source of heat, but in a space this small, it should do OK... and I carry a portable electric heater that I can use when plugged in.

I'm in the process of completely rewiring the 120 VAC system, again using marine-grade parts and tinned, stranded wire (no Romex!). I've added AC and DC outlets in useful places, replaced all lights with LEDs and added a couple more lights, and added a gimbal-mounted fan at the foot of the bed with a switch at the head.

The installed sink and stove were an all-in-one European unit that was really stupid: the stove had three burners set so close together that it would be hard to heat more than a couple of tin cups at one time--and anyway, who needs three burners in a 13' trailer? And the oddly-shaped sink was 3--count 'em--3 inches deep! (With a fold-down faucet, if you can imagine.) I ditched that and installed a spacious, 9" deep stainless steel sink and a one-burner stovetop, in the process doubling my usable counter space.

I've rebuilt the bed, using five one-inch layers of graded-density foam (densest on the bottom). I've added several cubic feet of storage here and there, in space that was previously unused. I made room for the cat's litter pan in a compartment under the bed. And so on. :-)

One good thing about this inexpensive trailer: it came with an 80-liter compressor fridge that runs on either 12 VDC or 120 VAC, instead of the less expensive, more common propane type. It draws about 3.5 A when running on 12 VDC, and based on my experience with similar units (Danfoss BD-35 compressor) in my cars and trucks, it should be able to run indefinitely on solar power, as long as I don't park under trees for days at a time.

I'm hoping to finish up the upgrades, sell the truck, store the Airstream, and get on the road after Labor Day. Wish me luck!
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #15
Andy,

What you’re missing is a quality Laser Disc player. I know just where you can get one...practically free. 🤯

Kent
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"

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Reply #16
there's no shower or bathroom

I love the idea of a small trailer (I'm leaning that way myself), but no bathroom would be a dealbreaker for me, especially for full-timing. Did you intentionally choose one without for a reason?

You never cease to amaze me, Andy. Always innovating and coming up with new plans and ways of doing things!  :)
Fern Horst
Formerly owned:
1979 TK - "Dorie" (2007-2012)
2003 MB - "Absaroka" (2012-2019)

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Reply #17

Nice to hear from you, Fern! How are you and Absaroka doing?

"no bathroom would be a dealbreaker for me, especially for full-timing."

Ah, but I won't be full-timing in the Trillium. (There are people who do, but they're hardier souls than I.)  I may travel for a few weeks or even a couple of months at a time, but I'll be able to return to the luxury of my Airstream.

"Did you intentionally choose one without [a bathroom] for a reason?"

I chose this Trillium on the advice of a friend, who has owned and restored several small Boler/Scamp/Casita type fiberglass trailers as well as a couple of small motorhomes. Apparently this is one of the best of its type. But no bathroom is obviously a serious limitation. Instead, I have a Porta Potti that stores under one of the dinette benches. It has a three-gallon cassette, and I have a spare cassette that also stores under that bench. I had never seen one of these firsthand before, and it appears to be a well-thought-out design. (I haven't used it yet, though.) When the cassette is full, its gate valve seals it off and you can pick it up by its handle and carry it to a dump station. A swiveling 3" nozzle lets you direct the flow to the hole.

My friend's reasoning was basically this: 1) I need a trailer I can tow with the Outback, and that means a thirteen-footer. 2) It is possible to find one that size with a bathroom, but that bathroom is like a phone booth... and the rest of the living space is squeezed down as well. 3) With the floorplan I have, I can pull out the Porta Potti into the middle of the room, and then as my friend says, "You'll have a bigger bathroom than your Lazy Daze!" Which is true. :-)

And when I'm not using the bathroom (99% of the time), I have a really very nice living space, with a twin-sized bed at one end, a small but adequate two-seat dinette at the other, and a kitchen and tall closet in the middle. In addition, there are several cupboards, open upper storage shelves running around the front and back, and storage under the dinette benches and under the bed.

Of course, what I don't have is holding tanks. As mentioned, the Porta Potti holds only 3 gallons per cassette. And there's no gray tank. The kitchen sink drains to a fitting on the trailer's left side, and I have a five-gallon jerry can to set outside and let it drain into. I do have a 13-gallon freshwater tank (with a Shurflo pump). This is a long way from my Lazy Daze's or Airstream's tankage. It's going to take adjusting to.

The Trillium does have an outside shower, as did my Lazy Daze, but I've found those not to be very useful. When boondocking, I can wash myself by heating water on the stove and then pouring it over my head from a bucket. In between baths, I use Burt's Bees body wipes daily to freshen up. As long as I don't work up too much of as sweat (and being lazy, I rarely do), they work fine.

One thing I love about the Trillium is that it has jalousie windows on all four sides, plus a FanTastic vent fan, so air circulation is excellent--and the windows can be left open in any but the windiest rainstorms. I hear they can be a bit drafty in winter, but I won't be using this trailer in the colder months. (It has half an inch of open-cell foam insulation, so it's not going to be comfy in really cold temperatures.)

"What you're missing is a quality Laser Disc player."

Touche! And a place to store a few hundred 12" discs, of course. LOL! Guess I'll just have to get by with the movies on my MacBook's hard drive. But given this mini-trailer's small size, I have a feeling I'll be spending more time outside. It does have a Fiamma awning, by the way--just like my LD's, only much shorter.

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Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #18
As always, Andy, you have it all well-thought-out. I'd love to see photos of the interior of the Trillium once you've finished all the mods.

When it comes to RVing, there are so many different options, and each one has its advantages, disadvantages, and compromises. Sometimes it's hard to choose what will work best for us. And sometimes the only way to know is to make a choice and try it, and then make if it turns out to not be quite the right fit. Kudos to you for being willing to do just that.
Fern Horst
Formerly owned:
1979 TK - "Dorie" (2007-2012)
2003 MB - "Absaroka" (2012-2019)

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Reply #19
Wow, another surprise, Andy! Out of curiosity, what does the Trillium weigh in at, and what is the tow rating of your Outback? We had the jalousie windows on the Hi-Lo and loved them as well.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

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Reply #20
My 2019 Outback 3.6R is rated to tow 2,700 pounds, with a maximum tongue weight of 200 pounds. My 2014 Trillium weighs about 1,800 pounds--I won't know exactly until I finish working on it and load it for travel--and the tongue weight is about 180 pounds (ditto).

By the way, Outbacks sold in other countries such as Australia have 350+ pound tongue weight ratings. I suspect that the US version's 200-pound rating is dictated by Subaru's optional, wimpy class 2 (1-1/4") hitch receiver, since class 2 hitches are by definition limited to 200 pounds. I bought my Outback without a hitch, and installed a class 3 (2") hitch that's rated for up to 600 pounds tongue weight and 6,000 pounds trailer weight. Nevertheless, I intend to stay under 200 pounds tongue weight, and I have a tongue weight scale to verify that.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #21
So now you have an Outback/ Outback combo!

Here is the Trillium website for those that want to take a look at these cute, little trailers. Keep in mind that they are manufactured in Alberta so prices are in Canadian Dollars (CAD):

Trillium Trailers
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

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Reply #22
Bear in mind that the Trillium brand name has been owned by a number of companies over the years. It's a long time since the original company, Trillium Recreational Vehicles Ltd., made these. My own Trillium was built in 2014 by Great West Vans during a period of a few years when they owned the brand name, and they called their version "Trillium Sidekick." Now the brand name is owned by a company called Trillium Trailers Manufacturing, and they call their version "Trillium Outback." (I've seen some bad stories about TTM's construction quality and customer service, so I'd want to be cautious about buying a new trailer from them.) As mentioned earlier, I bought my Trillium used, on the advice of a knowledgeable friend. One of the first things I did was to remove the clunky-looking "Great West Vans" logo decals. :-)
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #23
Andy

I’m chuckling because of a couple things you mentioned. I inherited my dad’s 1975 19 ft LD that he ordered at the factory. It was special ordered with the wet bath but no toilet and of course no black water tank. Dad carried a port-a-potty. He didn’t like all the heat that went out the exhaust from the heater. He removed it and installed a catalytic heater. After I got the LD I took four teenagers skiing in it many times.  Tight quarters but that heater kept us toasty even though I was so worried about the carbon monoxide that I doubled the recommenced ventilation. What’s new is old.
2004 MB