Fully electric Class C February 01, 2019, 10:44:52 am This would be totally impracticable for us. The range of 186 is actually more than we care to drive in a day, but it means every day you would need hookups. Well, there are lots of folks who always have hookups.Fully electric RV offers 190 miles of emissions-free touring | RV Daily Report
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #1 – February 01, 2019, 02:54:43 pm Impractical in more ways than just range. I read the linked article. Requires a Type 2 fast charger setup. I doubt many RV parks would have same for a long time to come. But the real killer is the cost. The base model would start at (choke) $194,000! It’s based on a current production model called the Bela P69 which, in its conventional Citroen drivetrain, costs $50,000. I guess to go green you have to drop a lot of green. — Jon 3 Likes
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #2 – February 01, 2019, 10:33:18 pm Unless the electricity to recharge comes from hydroelectric, there are some emissions created in generation. TANSTAAFL.Joel 1 Likes
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #3 – February 02, 2019, 10:54:12 am You don't need to stop overnight at an RV park to recharge, but can use one of the increasing number of electric vehicle chargers around the country. The photo shows one I saw two months ago at a Walmart in Paducah, KY, that was close to operational. A vehicle charger at a Walmart that allows overnight parking! How cool is that? 1 Likes
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #4 – February 02, 2019, 11:08:06 am "...can use one of the increasing number of electric vehicle chargers around the country."---Currently (sorry!), I suspect that one would come close to using up a lot of that 186-mile range looking for a public charging station. 1 Likes
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #5 – February 02, 2019, 12:17:40 pm Quote from: Joan - February 02, 2019, 11:08:06 am"...can use one of the increasing number of electric vehicle chargers around the country."---Currently (sorry!), I suspect that one would come close to using up a lot of that 186-mile range looking for a public charging station. I suspect there are more charging stations out there than you may realize, Joan. More are coming online all the time. I heard we are getting a Tesla Supercharger in Tehachapi at a new Marriot being built soon:Planning Commission approves site plan for new Marriott Towneplace Suites |...Mountain Valley RV Park in Tehachapi already has a charging station. We also have one at City Hall.https://www.plugshare.com/location/61203
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #6 – February 02, 2019, 12:42:05 pm I suspect there are more charging stations out there than you may realize, ---I am well aware of the numbers of charging stations, public, fast charge, whatever; a new row of these 'stands' opens soon very nearby. However, while these charging stations and the vehicles which require them may be useful in some environments and for some purposes, having an RV with a range of less than 200 miles before having to locate a plug and wait for however long it may take to juice up seems very impractical to me, particularly of one is traveling in more 'remote' areas. As always, YMMV. 2 Likes
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #7 – February 02, 2019, 12:51:17 pm I don't know an thing about the battery size/capacity in the 'all-electric' RV in question, but this chart shows full charge times at different charge levels for many currently available vehicles.https://www.clippercreek.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Time-to-Charge-Chart-20181114_FINAL.pdf
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #8 – February 02, 2019, 03:00:22 pm Just a thought those charging stations are not free, like power generation from solar and wind we are all paying for them.
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #9 – February 02, 2019, 03:04:21 pm Quote from: Eric Greenwell - February 02, 2019, 10:54:12 amYou don't need to stop overnight at an RV park to recharge, but can use one of the increasing number of electric vehicle chargers around the country. The photo shows one I saw two months ago at a Walmart in Paducah, KY, that was close to operational. A vehicle charger at a Walmart that allows overnight parking! How cool is that?Wonder how long, if at all, Walmart will allow overnighters to use their power to recharge an RV battery? Recharging an RV-size battery will use a significant amount of power. At some point, most or all the public charging stations will require payment, this isn't going to be a permanent free ride for RV owners. There is no free lunch.Larry
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #10 – February 02, 2019, 03:34:33 pm Quote from: joel wiley - February 01, 2019, 10:33:18 pmUnless the electricity to recharge comes from hydroelectric, there are some emissions created in generation. TANSTAAFL.JoelElectric vehicles are cleaner than internal combustion vehicles no matter the electricity source."It shows that counting the power used to generate electricity the average electric car produces the equivalent greenhouse-gas emissions of a gas car that gets 80 mpg"UCS report shows electric cars get even cleaner in 2018
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #11 – February 02, 2019, 07:54:58 pm Quote from: Larry W - February 02, 2019, 03:04:21 pmWonder how long, if at all, Walmart will allow overnighters to use their power to recharge an RV battery? Recharging an RV-size battery will use a significant amount of power. The charging station is privately owned and requires payment. Here is an article about it: Electric car charging station opens | Local News | paducahsun.comThis article "Walmart and VW's Electrify America team up on 100 EV charging stations" is even more interesting: Walmart and Electrify America team up on 100 EV charging stations - RoadshowAnd that's just Walmart - there are many more going into other places: "Electrify America is investing upward of $2 billion over the next decade in electric vehicle infrastructure, with plans to build more than 2,000 chargers across 484 sites including 17 metropolitan areas and on highways in 39 states. These chargers are set to be installed or under construction by the end of 2019.
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #12 – February 02, 2019, 11:47:26 pm Quote from: tedeboy - February 02, 2019, 03:34:33 pmElectric vehicles are cleaner than internal combustion vehicles no matter the electricity source.UCS report shows electric cars get even cleaner in 2018There's a whole lot more in that report than that one line. Thanks for posting. One rhetorical question popped up when bringing it back to the original post on the electric RV. I found that one measure for EVs was KWH/100 mi. I couldn't find anything about the RV that listed that info. That got me to thinking about an EV tow'd and charging it from the RV solar panels. I think that combination will be in the distant future...
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #13 – February 03, 2019, 08:42:59 am Point one --- The is always a transition cost. Going from liquid energy to electric energy will entail a rather large cost, like to cost of moving from horse to car. Early adopters pay that price. Kind of like the Federal and State taxpayers paying the price of transition to solar power in the form of tax rebates and credits. Point two - 189 miles of range is not enough IMHO. Many of the places I like to boondock can easily be a 200 miles round trip. And that isn't counting the energy I'll be using while I encamped. Personally I believe in the need to move to a more environmentally safe lifestyle if not for me then for my children and grandkids but I'll like others pay the transition cost.
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #14 – February 03, 2019, 02:36:13 pm First of all, I have no dog in this fight. I'm perfectly happy with the internal combustion engine. Learned to drive in a Model 'A' and have never looked back.But, in light of the continuing conversation about EVs, particularly on this thread, I thought the linked document would be appropriate. I'm sure it will draw a few comments, presuming it's not too controversial. Bayou Renaissance Man: A fact about electric cars I didn't know(Bayou+Renaissance+Man) 1 Likes
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #15 – February 03, 2019, 03:15:44 pm Quote from: Lazy Bones - February 03, 2019, 02:36:13 pmFirst of all, I have no dog in this fight. I'm perfectly happy with the internal combustion engine. Learned to drive in a Model 'A' and have never looked back.But, in light of the continuing conversation about EVs, particularly on this thread, I thought the linked document would be appropriate. I'm sure it will draw a few comments, presuming it's not too controversial. Bayou Renaissance Man: A fact about electric cars I didn't know(Bayou+Renaissance+Man)The article adds more heat (and cooling) than light to the discussion. I was aware that the lithium ion battery is more temperature sensitive than my Pomeranian. 1 Likes
Re: Fully electric Class C Reply #16 – February 03, 2019, 05:25:12 pm Maybe you could tow one of these and extend your mileage, well on sunny days anyway.
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