Re: HELP!! Reply #25 – January 19, 2019, 07:06:58 am The place I called in Fairfield was called Cordelia RV. They have a service department but take their customers first. Thankfully S&S much closer and can take my RV next week. The guy estimated $80 to replace my registration, which is roughly same as another place I called.
Re: HELP!! Reply #26 – January 19, 2019, 09:30:27 am I suggest having the shop do a LPG system leak test after installing the regulator.
Re: HELP!! Reply #27 – January 19, 2019, 10:15:38 am "Thankfully S&S much closer and can take my RV next week."In matters pertaining to LP I always consult my local bulk propane dealer. Either he will have valuable advise or will actually do the work required. Nothing like listening to the horse's mouth!
Re: HELP!! Reply #28 – January 19, 2019, 10:52:59 am "In matters pertaining to LP I always consult my local bulk propane dealer. Either he will have valuable advise or will actually do the work required."----I get propane fills at propane dealers/suppliers, but have found none, at least in my local area, that are willing to perform repair/replacement services on the LPG systems on RVs. A while back, I did ask my local fill outfit a "test question" on where to have a leak test and/or a regulator change done; when the answer was, "Camping World" (and another place that I wouldn't do business with), I knew that while the fill guy was competent, I was much better off doing my own research to find any other needed service! As ever, YMMV. 1 Likes
Re: HELP!! Reply #29 – January 19, 2019, 12:13:28 pm I hope you don't run into problems changing the regulator, I changed one on a 1990 LD that had an older model of regulator. with different dimensions. It required a creative installation.Propane regulator change | FlickrLarry
Re: HELP!! Reply #30 – January 19, 2019, 12:26:22 pm Interesting point about the old-style regulator. Also, I'd request that the shop install a regulator from Marshall Controls (used to be called Marshall Brass) instead of the Camco regulator.
Re: HELP!! Reply #31 – January 19, 2019, 01:10:10 pm Quote from: Joan - January 19, 2019, 12:26:22 pm Also, I'd request that the shop install a regulator from Marshall Controls (used to be called Marshall Brass) instead of the Camco regulator.Absolutely !Larry
Re: HELP!! Reply #32 – January 19, 2019, 02:50:39 pm "A while back, I did ask my local fill outfit a "test question"..."Since I have patronized my local bulk LP dealership for several years I have established rapport with the tech who normally fills my tank. He has expressed appreciation and interest in my LD. When I broached the subject of adding an ExtendAStay fitting, plus an additional regulator to feed a line under the coach to where I connect to my BBQ, his response was "I can do that.". And so it was done. Recently I was serviced by a different employee who remarked what a neat installation that was. Little did he know that it was done by his co-worker. 4 Likes
Re: HELP!! Reply #33 – January 20, 2019, 12:34:00 am Steve--Thx for that suggestion. I fill at the local MFA Co-Op...even if no one there can/will do the work should I add a cat heater, they will know who to recommend here in town.Lynne
Re: HELP!! Reply #34 – January 20, 2019, 01:50:27 am I called a couple propane places around here (there aren't many), but they not only did not do repairs, they did not have anyone to refer me to.
Re: HELP!! Reply #35 – January 24, 2019, 05:38:35 pm Hey all, I just pulled into S&S RV in Richmond, CA. I got here 30 minutes late and the guy is looking for replacement regulator as mine is the original and obsolete. So far I think this is the right place for my RV repair needs. Right off the bat he noticed an issue that, though obvious after he mentioned it, I hadn't noticed but Sturken auto should have ( seals on windshield coming off on corners!). Unfortunately he doesn't have the two hours he requires to do a full inspection, but I think I'll be coming back soon for that. This guy hardly talks and just seems to know what he is doing without all the b.s. of the other place.I feel like i got totally played at Sturken and am going to have to file a small claims complaint for the hoses that went missing that they claim never to have touched, as well as for some of the work they charged me for but which did not actually fix the problems.I don't understand why this place never came up in my searches, but glad for the suggestion. 1 Likes
Re: HELP!! Reply #36 – January 25, 2019, 02:51:17 am Lisa--Glad to hear you found a place that feels like good fit for you. I discovered I had a propane problem just before leaving for Ladeze a few years ago. I'd filled at MFA as I prepped for the trip, & the idiot light over the stove alerted me to what I guessed was a leak; MFA confirmed the regulator was the problem, & could have done the repair before I left, but had no RV parts. A shout-out on LDO for a recommendation in the Denver area (I was stopping through there to visit family) & Nancy McKenna to the rescue with a referral in the Denver metro. AAA Propane in Wheat Ridge is in my list of LD reference info because they didn't just fix it, but educated me about what they were doing, even though I will never attempt such a project.Keep at it--you're learning so much, & will have such a great time with your LD.Lynne
Re: HELP!! Reply #37 – January 25, 2019, 05:08:58 am Yeah, I think this guy is the one.He said my tank had been overfilled and now I have to go to a propane place to have them release some of it or run my heater for a long time, though he said that running the heater is not the best way to do it. That was my idea because I don't want to deal with going to a propane place since they are all in funky industrial areas.I just wish this guy had more availability. Next open time is Feb. 12. Frankly I'm afraid of what he'll find when he does his inspection, but the fact that he said he needs at least 2 hours to do it and that he checks everything from roof to tires, instills in me further confidence that this guy knows his sh*t. Plus he took the time to look at the leak I've been worried about that Sturken didn't bother to mention and claims not to have seen though they had her FIVE MONTHS.Moral of the story- go with the quiet guy that knows his crap and don't buy into the overly friendly "I have an LD, too!" saleswoman that proceeds to ignore you AFTER getting your LD in the shop. I'll update once the inspection is done.
Re: HELP!! Reply #38 – January 25, 2019, 10:29:45 am How do you know the propane tank is overfilled just wondering..... 1 Likes
Re: HELP!! Reply #40 – January 25, 2019, 04:02:34 pm Overfull if liquid comes out of the vapor vent valve instead of vapor. RonB 2 Likes
Re: HELP!! Reply #41 – January 25, 2019, 04:14:03 pm Quote from: RonB - January 25, 2019, 04:02:34 pmOverfull if liquid comes out of the vapor vent valve instead of vapor. RonBAh! Thanks, yes, that reminded me of what he said- there was oil leaking out of regulator. He said that was not good and indicative of overfilling. Not sure if that was his only clue, but he said was way too full and that propane places will often do that to make more money. Told me next time I get it filled to tell them not to fill more than 3/4 full. I did't have this filled, though. It's been full since i got the RV last year.
Re: HELP!! Reply #42 – January 25, 2019, 04:15:36 pm If I remember right, OPD requirements for ASME tanks on RVs didn’t become law until the late 90s, so a 1991 model would not have an overfill protection device to prevent filling past the 80% level.
Re: HELP!! Reply #43 – January 25, 2019, 04:19:06 pm Have them replace it with an OPD valve and you won’t have an issue going forward. 2 Likes
Re: HELP!! Reply #44 – January 27, 2019, 01:28:08 am I spent some time in the LD tonight testing out the propane appliances and trying to reduce the propane in the tank. First thing I noticed is that when I turned on the propane tank, no smell! Good sign!Ran the heater for about 20 minutes and it sure does warm the place up. I might have to hang out in there on colder nights. All the burners on the stove now work fine, and the fridge started cooling down right away when I put it on propane. Only thing I could not seem to start was the oven. Not sure how I'm supposed start it. I turned the knob to "pilot" and pressed the ignite button, but nothing seemed to happen. I tried the ignite button several times, but nothing. I also turned the oven knob up to different temperatures and tried the ignite button, but nothing. Am I doing something wrong?As an aside, I also turned on the generator. Had to start it up a few times before it would stay on, but then it was fine and I figured out how to set the clock on the microwave. Once I get that oven working, I'm set. My dream of making pizza while in the middle of nowhere will finally be obtainable. Is there any way to set up a wifi network in an RV that works almost anywhere? I want to watch netflix while eating my pizza in the middle of a national forest. Serious about the wifi. Anyone?Lisa G.
Re: HELP!! Reply #45 – January 27, 2019, 03:18:26 am Lisa you said, “Only thing I could not seem to start was the oven. Not sure how I'm supposed start it. I turned the knob to "pilot" and pressed the ignite button, but nothing seemed to happen. I tried the ignite button several times, but nothing. I also turned the oven knob up to different temperatures and tried the ignite button, but nothing. Am I doing something wrong?”The piezo starter for your stove only works for the cook top burners. It does not light the oven burner (unless you have an oven I am not familiar with). To start the oven you will have to kneel down next to the oven with the oven door open. Looking below the oven shelf you will see the burner (just like the one in your house). Toward the back along the burner array there will be a small gas outlet for the pilot light. You will need to light the pilot with a long bar-b-que lighter.Turn the oven to pilot (I use my right hand) and press on the knob until it moves toward the back of the oven (you will need to keep the knob depressed with your hand it will spring back to its normal position if you release the knob). Have the lighter in your other hand and try to have it lit by the time you depress the oven knob (pressing on the knob allows gas to flow toward the pilot light). Once you have the knob depressed and the lighter lit place the lit lighter at the pilot light. Once you get the pilot light lit you will need to keep the knob pressed down for a minute (I usually hold the knob down for about 90 seconds-this allows the coil in the gas valve to warm up enough to allow it to remain open once you have released the knob). Once the pilot has been going for 60-90 seconds release the knob and turn the knob toward your desired temperature. (Going the opposite direction will extinguish the pilot and you’ll have to start the process all over again-ask me how I know 🤪). At that point the burners should light up the burner ring. If it doesn’t then maybe the pilot light went out. Take a look.It’s an awkward thing-lighting the oven but that’s just what you have to do every time you want to use the oven. Once you turn the oven off the pilot light goes out until you go through the steps again. Some of us use a pizza stone in the oven for making pizzas. They help distribute RV oven heat more evenly. You may find a video on YouTube for RV oven lighting. Good luck lighting your oven. After Black Tank cleaning, lighting the oven is my least favorite thing to do. 😖Kent 1 Likes
Re: HELP!! Reply #46 – January 27, 2019, 03:25:35 am Thank you. I was wondering if I had to actually light it. Sounds the same as lighting the heater in my home when the pilot light goes out (which has been somewhat frequently of late). But I really dislike the idea of having to reach into the oven and light it when there is propane pouring in. It sure would be nice if they had an igniter for the oven.
Re: HELP!! Reply #47 – January 27, 2019, 03:33:25 am Lisa,Here is a YouTube on RV oven lighting.https://youtu.be/1Vw6Fr7-7fsGood luck.Kent 1 Likes
Re: HELP!! Reply #48 – January 27, 2019, 03:35:48 am I think they do it this way as a safety measure. There really isn’t much propane going to the pilot area as you press the knob. If you don’t light it and you release the knob, the gas shuts off.Also, by the time you turn on the burner you have already removed your hand from the oven because the pilot was lit a minute before.Kent
Re: HELP!! Reply #49 – January 27, 2019, 04:22:22 am Hi Lisa; On my older 1999 oven you just need to turn it to pilot, That turns on the gas to the pilot, and you don't need to push it on. I can see why they changed that, in newer ovens, to require pushing it to keep gas flowing to the pilot for 90 seconds. Once lit, and the thermocouple is hot, the pilot will stay on without pushing the knob in. Once you light the oven pilot, you can use the oven. When done, turn the knob back to pilot and leave it on. The next time you want to use the oven, the pilot is still on. You don't need to relight it each time you use the oven. If you are home, and won't be needing the oven for a few days (weeks, months) then turn the knob off, and next time you will need to light it again. It uses very little gas (itty-bitty) flame, and an insignificant amount of CO produced. I think that is why there isn't an igniter. I would prefer one just for the oven, but didn't come on mine. Yeah, no Wi-Fi. It has a limited range, a couple of hundred yards, depending on whether the campground has it. The speeds I've seen are barely enough to get an e-mail through once in a while. Streaming is pretty much out of the question, unless you are the only one in camp. That is where bringing your own movies with you, on DVD or flash drive. Some campgrounds have cable (extra cost in some). Satellite TV...many threads on LDOF in the past about that, lots of $$$$. And of course no heating the RV with the oven. Residual heat after cooking is ok, flame off. Keep a roof vent cracked open 1/4" while cooking. Your CO alarm will remind you, but is really tough on the pets. RonB 1 Likes
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