On fire...again November 09, 2018, 02:52:22 pm The Woolsey Fire started about a mile to the west of us, yesterday afternoon.About 4:00-pm, the big water dropping copters starting flying in and out of the auxiliary heliport, down the street, used for watering the copters. Since yesterday afternoon, the copters have been continuiously flying in and out every 5-8 minutes, hammering over the top of our street, needless to say, it was a long, noisy night.We were very lucky to have the high winds blow the fire away from us, a lot of folks have not been so lucky.It's been a tough few days for this part of the state, particularly Ventura County, starting with the night club shootings Wednesday night and then the wildfire occurring in the same area, the next day. I have never seen a bigger plume of smoke as the one to the west of us now.As bad as it seems here, Northern California has an even more severe fire situation and greater loss of home and lives.Larry
Re: On fire...again Reply #1 – November 09, 2018, 04:08:37 pm The smoke from the Camp Fire in Butte County is very bad over much of the Bay Area; in south SJ, AirNow rates the current AQI as "USG", i.e., Unhealthy for Sensitive Groups. The smoke will eventually dissipate; the heartbreak for all those who have lost their homes, and very often, friends, family, animals, and livelihoods, will take a lot longer, if ever, to heal. This year has been the worst "fire year" in my memory, not only in California, but in so many areas of the west; incredible destruction and incalculable losses. 2 Likes
Re: On fire...again Reply #2 – November 09, 2018, 06:06:13 pm <sigh> a news article from the NY Times https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/us/california-fires.htmlSeems the whole of the US is taken a big hit this year with fires and hurricanes no place is immune.
Re: On fire...again Reply #3 – November 09, 2018, 06:36:49 pm It keeps getting more interesting, the canyon near us, where the Woolsey fire started, has flared up but the wind is still blowing away from us...until tonight when the winds are predicted to slow and possibly reversing tonight and tomorrow, before the next Santa Ana system hits Sunday through Tuesday.. I'm packing the LD up, just in case we need to leave quickly, the winds are so unpredictable .It's a war zone outside, with the LA County copters watering at the heliport and the Sky Cranes sucking water from the two ponds, in the old Chatsworth reservoir, and the lake in the housing development next to us us. The sounds of copters is continuous. About the only good thing about experiences like this, you get know your neighbors a lot better.Larry 2 Likes
Re: On fire...again Reply #4 – November 09, 2018, 06:52:51 pm Larry,How is John and Kathy doing? As I understand they live close to you also.glen
Re: On fire...again Reply #5 – November 09, 2018, 10:15:54 pm Quote from: Larry W - November 09, 2018, 02:52:22 pmThe Woolsey Fire started about a mile to the west of us, yesterday afternoon.About 4:00-pm, the big water dropping copters starting flying in and out of the auxiliary heliport, down the street, used for watering the copters. Since yesterday afternoon, the copters have been continuiously flying in and out every 5-8 minutes, hammering over the top of our street, needless to say, it was a long, noisy night.We were very lucky to have the high winds blow the fire away from us, a lot of folks have not been so lucky.It's been a tough few days for this part of the state, particularly Ventura County, starting with the night club shootings Wednesday night and then the wildfire occurring in the same area, the next day. I have never seen a bigger plume of smoke as the one to the west of us now.As bad as it seems here, Northern California has an even more severe fire situation and greater loss of home and lives.Larry"...Northern California has an even more severe fire situation and greater loss of home and lives." I spoke with my 1st cousin from Paradise this morning and they lost everything. She and her husband were on a short trip to Texas and have nothing to go home to. Fortunately a daughter lives close by so they can stay there and plan the next passage of their lives. I can't imagine the pain of this. They are positive and say "they will recover".Chris
Re: On fire...again Reply #6 – November 09, 2018, 11:26:51 pm Quote from: colddog - November 09, 2018, 06:52:51 pmHow is John and Kathy doing? As I understand they live close to you also.glenNot anymore, they moved to the Central Coast last summer.Larry
Re: On fire...again Reply #7 – November 10, 2018, 12:37:09 am The Camp Fire started a bit before 7 AM yesterday morning. Wind gusts in the area were recorded at 53 before the weather station burned. It hit 18,000 acres by the afternoon and burned over what had been the town of Paradise, pop 27,000. When the wind died enough for aerial work, the Global Supertanker made several sorties from McClellan base in Sacramento carying 20,000 gallon loads with a 45 minute flight time and turn-around of 30-45 minutes. The wind died today, which let them fly, but the lack of wind lets the smoke hide the firelines.I think I'll go fill the rig's watertank before going to bed.Mother Nature doesn't care that it's heading for mid-November. Some ski areas are manufacturing snow as there's no rain in the forecast.
Re: On fire...again Reply #8 – November 10, 2018, 09:39:44 am Stay safe, Larry and hoping you don't have to evacuate! Steve B. lives in the same area, doesn't he?
Re: On fire...again Reply #9 – November 10, 2018, 02:36:04 pm Just got a message from an old high school bud who live(d) in Paradise. They lost their home and two cars. He was texting me from their Bounder which they used to escape. Maybe I’ll rethink selling the rig. We’re currently in Indianapolis visiting my mother and monitoring the southern fire. It’s just to the north of our community and, like Larry, we’re hoping the winds don’t shift. Tough times in California for a lot of good people. — Jon & Loni
Re: On fire...again Reply #10 – November 10, 2018, 04:30:03 pm Quote from: HiLola - November 10, 2018, 09:39:44 amStay safe, Larry and hoping you don't have to evacuate! Steve B. lives in the same area, doesn't he?Right now, the winds are calm and the smoke has rolled in. We are just blocks away from the evacuation zone, close enough to watch the copters making water drops yesterday afternoon.The parade of copters, in and out of the heliport, has continued today after slowing down last night.The strong north-east winds ended late yesterday and now a mild wind is blowing the opposite direction. Later tonight, into tomorrow, a new Santa Ana will roll in and the battle will continue.Steve B. lives a couple of miles due south and, like us, is just outside of the evaluation zone.As bad as we think it is here, Northern California, especially the town of Paradise, suffered much more death and destruction.Larry
Re: On fire...again Reply #11 – November 10, 2018, 04:36:05 pm Margee and I are following this terrible tragedy and we can only hope and pray. I've seen some terrible things in my life but nothing like what we're seeing on the national news about these fires.
Re: On fire...again Reply #12 – November 11, 2018, 01:43:24 am Quote from: Ed & Margee - November 10, 2018, 04:36:05 pmMargee and I are following this terrible tragedy and we can only hope and pray. I've seen some terrible things in my life but nothing like what we're seeing on the national news about these fires. I'll add an Amen to Ed & Margee. The community of LDO makes this much more real just a televised newscast. That this has become a year-round battle for y'all in the west is heartbreaking to see. Kansas & Oklahoma had disastrous prairie fires in 2017, but we've never had anything like y'all are facing here in MO; even in the deepest part of the July 2017 drought, when the teenage boys helping me got the pickup stuck in an unseen ditch in the pasture & the cat caught the undergrowth on fire & I thought the winds would surely take it across seventy acres to the gravel road, the volunteer rural fire dept. knocked it down in less than a couple of acres--what y'all describe & I've seen on the news is mind-boggling. Tornado Alley seems pretty safe in comparison--it's generally seasonal, we have some warning of clouds/rain, & we can go to the basement or some other shelter, though that doesn't mean there aren't disasters like Joplin, MO, or Greensburg, KS, etc. Lynne 1 Likes
Re: On fire...again Reply #13 – November 11, 2018, 06:30:07 pm The entire community of Paradise was wiped out. 6,500 homes and hundreds of commercial structures. 27,000 people homeless in hours. This on top of thousands of homes in prior fires. This defines disaster. - Jon
Re: On fire...again Reply #14 – November 11, 2018, 08:26:13 pm From the other side of America, along the coast of Maine, we send our most genuine and heartfelt sympathies to our friends in CA...The Captain and I know exactly where Larry and Renee live, and indeed, a perilous situation with one road out. We hope all our CA friends, those we've met and those we've yet to met, stay safe and lucky. A Nor'easter blizzard has nothing on this situation for fear factor.TinaP2006 MB "Wild Thing" 3 Likes
Re: On fire...again Reply #15 – November 12, 2018, 09:25:25 am We Americans are a good people. If I've learned anything in my travels around this great country it is that. But sadly at these times of disaster bad folk come to our doors to pry on our good nature. Here is a article I found with helpful information on givinghttp://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/11/us/california-fires-how-to-help.html 1 Likes
Re: On fire...again Reply #16 – November 13, 2018, 08:58:19 am Glen Beck said yesterday his Mercury fund is all going to California fire victims right now. This agency gives 100% of what you give to the recipient. The operating cost comes from a once a year fund drive specifically to cover that.Home - Mercury One
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