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Entry (screen) door weather stripping
Quote from: Joan  - 
Yahoo Message Number: 147251
No local store had *anything* other than the M-D (poor adhesion, and it bunches up), so, after searching and reading as many reviews as I could find, I ordered Frost King rubber weather stripping tape; the product number is R534H on the Frost King website. According to the Frost King website, their product line is available from Home Depot, Ace, Lowe's, Walmart, and DoItBest ONLINE, but I found the particular tape I ordered only from Ace and HD

This tape may be a tiny bit too wide, but the 1/2" is too narrow, and the width and depth choices are few. When the stuff arrives (shipped to a local HD), I'll post how it works out.  In the meantime, the screen door can just rattle in the frame!

Joan

Joan ... have been satisfied with the performance of this Frost King rubber weather stripping?
And did you need both rolls of the stripping?  Btw, I found the same product but in 1/2" on Amazon.

 Amazon.com: Frost King Sponge Rubber Foam Tape - Minimum Compression, 1/2"...;

 And thanks in advance.
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Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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"Frost King rubber weather stripping tape; the product number is R534H on the Frost King website. According to the Frost King website, their product line is available from Home Depot, Ace, Lowe's, Walmart, and DoItBest ONLINE, but I found the particular tape I ordered only from Ace and HD."
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The Frost King R534H weather-stripping is available through Home Depot (not in the store, but through order) and Amazon; the page showing the 1/2" tape also has a selection for the black 3/4" wide tape, 5/16" thick, in 10' rolls.

The tape has lasted very well through four years; it has not come "un-stuck", shows very little compression or "wear", and the screen door doesn't rattle.  I ordered two rolls of tape, and used part of the second roll to complete the job. The 3/4" width works well as long as the edge of the tape is butted snugly against the frame edge. It's also very important to thoroughly clean and prep the surface and not stretch the tape, particularly when fitting the tape around the corners. 

For good results, get the right Frost King product, i.e., R534H; when I first did the research to find the best tape for the application, the R534H was the only one (of Frost King and others) that I felt would do the job and last well.

I don't know what LD is using now as door stripping, but the stuff on my 2003 was junk; thin, narrow sponge that deteriorated and turned to powder. When I got around to re-stripping the frame, pretty much all that was left of the original stripping was the adhesive backing; this was a chore to clean off the frame, but without complete removal, the new tape is unlikely to stick well.





2003 TK has a new home
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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Decided it was time to do ours, so bought Joan's recommendation. Old foam in bad condition, but mostly removed by loosening and pulling off the adhesive backing strip. The remaining adhesive that was sticky removed with Goo-Gone and elbow grease, followed by isopropyl alcohol. Applying the new stuff was easy, but slow, being very careful to get it even with the edge. The screen latch needed to be adjusted to accomodate the additional foam thickness. I also added a strip across the bottom inside of the screen door to seal that area against bug intrusion. Due to the added thickness, a slight press may be needed to latch the screen. In our case, I have closing springs, which allow it to latch when released anyway.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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For Steve and Joan ,too late, but for others; I removed the tape around the door that was the backing on the foam in 2014. I used a cheap hot air gun from Harbor Freight. With just the right amount of heat, the tape pulled off in just a few minutes. The hardest part was removing the tape I had damaged by trying to scrape it. Goo gone took off the rest of the.. well 'goo'. The anti-rattle, and bug isolation are the main features of that strip. RonB    (Msg 149756)
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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Quote from: Steve  - 
Decided it was time to do ours, so bought Joan's recommendation. Old foam in bad condition, but mostly removed by loosening and pulling off the adhesive backing strip. The remaining adhesive that was sticky removed with Goo-Gone and elbow grease, followed by isopropyl alcohol. Applying the new stuff was easy, but slow, being very careful to get it even with the edge. The screen latch needed to be adjusted to accomodate the additional foam thickness. I also added a strip across the bottom inside of the screen door to seal that area against bug intrusion. Due to the added thickness, a slight press may be needed to latch the screen. In our case, I have closing springs, which allow it to latch when released anyway.

Steve
Steve, can you tell us what kind of closing springs you are using? I'm trying to imagine where there would be enough room for them.

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB
 
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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Quote from: Chris Horst  - 
Steve, can you tell us what kind of closing springs you are using? I'm trying to imagine where there would be enough room for them.

Chris

Chris, this is the kit:
Amazon.com: Camco 44133 Screen Door Closure Kit: Automotive

and a couple pics with the screen open and closed. Note a couple pieces of duct-tape at rub points. Used these on both our '83 and '04 to keep cats inside.

Steve
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2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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Quote from: Steve  - 
Chris, this is the kit:
Amazon.com: Camco 44133 Screen Door Closure Kit: Automotive

and a couple pics with the screen open and closed. Note a couple pieces of duct-tape at rub points. Used these on both our '83 and '04 to keep cats inside.

Steve

Thanks for sharing that. Looks promising. But it's so expensive. <grin>

Chris
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Formerly: 2002 30' IB
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Quote from: Chris Horst  - 
Thanks for sharing that. Looks promising. But it's so expensive. <grin>

Chris

Actually, although I use both on our '04, on our '83 we got by with just one of the springs. So you could maybe find someone here to split a kit with!

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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An addendum to my foam weatherstrip installation:

That evening, when I went to go in the cabin door, I could barely get it open! The screen door was latched to the main door, and also stuck to the foam. Once I worked it carefully free, I carefully went over the screen door frame contact area with bug/tar remover, alcohol, and even fine steel wool on a few rough spots. None of this completely cured the sticking. An internet search on the issue found a contractor site recommending sanding and repainting the metal, then wating about a week before closing it. However, another respondent said baby powder worked for him. Much easier, if it works, and it did! A bit messy on a vertical application, but I dry-rubbed the powder into the surface of the foam, and since then, not a hint of sticking.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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Quote from: Steve  - 
An addendum to my foam weatherstrip installation:

That evening, when I went to go in the cabin door, I could barely get it open! The screen door was latched to the main door, and also stuck to the foam. Once I worked it carefully free, I carefully went over the screen door frame contact area with bug/tar remover, alcohol, and even fine steel wool on a few rough spots. None of this completely cured the sticking. An internet search on the issue found a contractor site recommending sanding and repainting the metal, then wating about a week before closing it. However, another respondent said baby powder worked for him. Much easier, if it works, and it did! A bit messy on a vertical application, but I dry-rubbed the powder into the surface of the foam, and since then, not a hint of sticking.

Steve

I had the same issue. It finally has dried out (cured?) and is pretty much stick free.

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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Hi Steve, my screen door has never been sticky, but the compartment door gaskets are. About once a year I apply some silicone spray on the rubber and mating door surfaces and let it dry out for a few hours. (I'll have to try that baby powder trick too). I do the same on the roof vent gaskets. Sometimes the crank will barely open the lids when they stick. I do all if my car windows and door seals also, motorhome on down. Takes a while. RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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Quote from: RonB  - 
Hi Steve, my screen door has never been sticky, but the compartment door gaskets are. About once a year I apply some silicone spray on the rubber...

It is important to note what a silicone spray is safe to use on - many will damage plastic, and much foam weatherstripping IS plastic. What I buy I use mostly on metal, and would not be advisable for this purpose.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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Spraying a light coating of a teflon-based, dry lubricant has seemed to work well with sticky rubber items, such as exterior compartment doors,
 
Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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Hi Steve, I've been using dry lubricant silicone spray for years on my neoprene compartment gaskets, door and window gaskets, without any side effects. I spray onto a paper towel and wipe that on to avoid getting it on the paint, etc. Some of the solvents (vehicles) could be hazardous to some plastics, Naptha was mentioned. So I would not spray too closely, or directly on plastics without trying a test sample. Many dry-lube products recommend use on doors seals. Some are even food grade.  All that I could find online are safe for neoprene, vinyl, EPDM and other plastics. Actual latex is pretty rare, and not very durable. I wouldn't use dry lube spray on that. I could see wet overspray affecting  and loosening adhesives. That might be a 'feature'. YMMV. RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
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Quote from: Larry W  - 
Spraying a light coating of a teflon-based, dry lubricant has seemed to work well with sticky rubber items, such as exterior compartment doors. 

I suppose in another 4-5 years I might have discovered Larry's suggestion on my own, but again ... probably not.  So I've added this to our semi-annual maintenance schedule when we use the dry lubricant on the window slides.   For the record, we used the dry lub on the basement door seals this morning.  Feeling warm and fuzzy all over.  :)

Thank you Larry.

Re: Entry (screen) door weather stripping
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On a scale of 1-10 this project rates a 1 for tedious.   On the same scale this project rates another 1 for enjoyment. 

Clearly this weather seal is superior to our original seal as noted by Joan.  This is one project that I’ll probably not ever have to do again.  Joyful 😀.