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Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Yahoo Message Number: 1949
Your suggestion "learn how to do without the microwave" rings a bell for me; we almost never use the one at home, so I think removal is a good option.

Would you mind describing the project? What did you find when you removed the mw? How did you finish the hole? Any problems finding & fitting a cabinet door and shelves?

John

 
Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 1956
My 83 RL LD doe not have a generator so the microwave is really useless except when hookups are available. What do most people use them for anyway, defrosting frozen foods and heating their coffee or other food. Get an insulated mug and plan your meals a little. In return you get a nice piece of storage space.
I easily removed it. Unplug it and look inside the cabin next to it an see if there is any thing attaching it to the motorhome. Mine was held in by the trim.
Depending on how your HM is finished you can leave it alone or add some wood trim. As to what to do with the space, We added a piece of netting across the bottom half. We use the area to store papertowells, bread and other lightweight items. Determine what your needs are and design accordingly. I asked Steve several years age at LD if a LD could be ordered without a microwave. He said yes and that a door could be installed. The door size in similar to some other door they use.
Maybe they have a replacement door you could purchase.
Just an idea.
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 1957
My 83 RL LD doe not have a generator so the microwave is really useless except when hookups are available. What do most people use them for anyway, defrosting frozen foods and heating their coffee or other food. Get an insulated mug and plan your meals a little. In return you get a nice piece of storage space.
I easily removed it. Unplug it and look inside the cabin next to it an see if there is any thing attaching it to the motorhome. Mine was held in by the trim.
Depending on how your HM is finished you can leave it alone or add some wood trim. As to what to do with the space, We added a piece of netting across the bottom half. We use the area to store papertowells, bread and other lightweight items. Determine what your needs are and design accordingly. I asked Steve several years age at LD if a LD could be ordered without a microwave. He said yes and that a door could be installed. The door size in similar to some other door they use.
Maybe they have a replacement door you could purchase.
Just an idea.
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 1958
Frankly, I never considered ordering our LD w/o a microwave. We use this appliance alot at home and I just assumed we would do likewise in the LD. Could I hear from the experienced crew on your utilization of the microwave? Thanks, folks.

Regards, Straf14
2001 Rear Bath

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 1962
It may be that your type of RV use would dictate the optimum cooking unit(s) configuration.

For example, a lot of dry camping would favor the propane stove / oven combination, while primarily RV deluxe resort camping might favor an (expensive) Microwave / Convection oven and perhaps a propane cooktop.

That said, the microwave oven and the propane stove / oven combination seems to us to be an excellent compromise for a very wide range of users.

For example, our particular (perhaps pecular?) favorite is the Convection / Microwave and a two burner propane cooktop, with cabinet space where the propane oven would have been. But, our Lazy Daze has the microwave and the propane stove / oven combination and we get along just fine with that.
We could change it, but it just isn't necessary to do so.

We often use our microwave for preparing meals in our Lazy Daze. For lunch, we usually pull into a freeway rest stop, where Wife prepares lunch while I let our Corgi pull me around the rest area.

Our Lazy Daze microwave takes just 2.5 minutes to prepare a mocha and at the same time I can be baking chocolate chip / almond cookies in the propane oven. (Good thing the cookies get made at four dozen a mix or that propane oven would be going ALL the time.) On our previous rig, which had no propane oven, the Microwave / convection oven did either job but could not do both at the same time.

In summary, the way Lazy Daze has designed the galley is excellent for cooking, whether dry camping or in a RV resort and works very well as it is.

bon apetit! Don

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 1963
It may be that your type of RV use would dictate the optimum cooking unit(s) configuration.

For example, a lot of dry camping would favor the propane stove / oven combination, while primarily RV deluxe resort camping might favor an (expensive) Microwave / Convection oven and perhaps a propane cooktop.

That said, the microwave oven and the propane stove / oven combination seems to us to be an excellent compromise for a very wide range of users.

For example, our particular (perhaps pecular?) favorite is the Convection / Microwave and a two burner propane cooktop, with cabinet space where the propane oven would have been. But, our Lazy Daze has the microwave and the propane stove / oven combination and we get along just fine with that.
We could change it, but it just isn't necessary to do so.

We often use our microwave for preparing meals in our Lazy Daze. For lunch, we usually pull into a freeway rest stop, where Wife prepares lunch while I let our Corgi pull me around the rest area.

Our Lazy Daze microwave takes just 2.5 minutes to prepare a mocha and at the same time I can be baking chocolate chip / almond cookies in the propane oven. (Good thing the cookies get made at four dozen a mix or that propane oven would be going ALL the time.) On our previous rig, which had no propane oven, the Microwave / convection oven did either job but could not do both at the same time.

In summary, the way Lazy Daze has designed the galley is excellent for cooking, whether dry camping or in a RV resort and works very well as it is.

bon apetit! Don

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 1965
It also seems like your location would dictate your preference.

Living in Texas, I can see myself running the generator on occasion to run the AC unit. With a generator, I may as well have a microwave.
If it is really hot outside, you don't want to fire up the stove to heat up something simple like a baby bottle.

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 1966
It all depends on how you use your MH. We like camping in places where hookups are not normally available, so consumption of battery power is a major consideration. Charging with a generator isn"t practical unless your have a BIG battery charger to plug into the generator. We try to save power and exist off the solar panels . If you always have hookups, then this is not a problem.
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 1967
It all depends on how you use your MH. We like camping in places where hookups are not normally available, so consumption of battery power is a major consideration. Charging with a generator isn"t practical unless your have a BIG battery charger to plug into the generator. We try to save power and exist off the solar panels . If you always have hookups, then this is not a problem.
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #9
Yahoo Message Number: 1968
It all depends on how you use your MH. We like camping in places where hookups are not normally available, so consumption of battery power is a major consideration. Charging with a generator isn"t practical unless your have a BIG battery charger to plug into the generator. We try to save power and exist off the solar panels . If you always have hookups, then this is not a problem.
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #10
Yahoo Message Number: 1973
The microwave doesn't run off of the coach battery. Battery consumption isn't an issue unless you opt for the larger inverter (I think, Ed and I never connected on this.) To run the microwave, the motorhome must be plugged into an exterior outlet or the generator must be operating.

You also have to look at resell value. It's alot easier to remove something than it is to add it later.

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #11
Yahoo Message Number: 1974
In our '83, we have no generator and neither have nor miss a microwave. At home the microwave is used mainly to speed up or supplement cooking, and time runs at a slower pace when we are on vacation. In the m'home, the LP stove + oven does fine for all our indoor cooking, and MOST cooking takes place outside anyway.

IMO, we always have SOME appliance that will do a better job of cooking our gourmet meals than the microwave can, so recovering the otherwise lost space is more important in a 22' RV.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #12
Yahoo Message Number: 1975
The original converstion was about running a microwave off an inverter using battery power. I agree that if you did not want the microwave, it would be better to remove after purchase (I have mine in storage). Since we don't have a generator and rarely stay in areas with hookups, the space and weight are better used as storage. I also dislike generator use in campgrounds. We camped for years without a MH. I never did learn to like the sound of gererators being runned to power coffee makers and microwaves in the morning. You can cook just fine on a propane stove and not disturb others with a motor running. I must say that generators can installed in such a way to minimize noise but it can cost a bit extra and most manufacturers don't bother. If you are a user of generators, considered extra sound proofing and a better muffer. Probably best done by a pro.
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #13
Yahoo Message Number: 1976
But the microwave in the new models does not run off an inverter.

I guess I am totally confused. Is this about having a microwave or is it about upgrading to a larger inverter and being able to run a microwave off of the batteries?

If we are talking about the second, I am in agreement, running a microwave off of the batteries does not make sense.

If we are talking about having a microwave or not having a microwave with Lazy Daze's stock configuration, I'm for having a microwave. But if you don't want a microwave and want another cabinet, go for it.

Counting down to pick up and not too worried about resell value at the moment.

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #14
Yahoo Message Number: 1987
We have recently purchased and plan to use a small pressure cooker for speeding up cooking on the stove top. It might just be the best alternative to the microwave for cooking.

Counting down to picking up our LD in mid-April,

Robin

Remove Microwave (was elec system)
Reply #15
Yahoo Message Number: 1988
We have recently purchased and plan to use a small pressure cooker for speeding up cooking on the stove top. It might just be the best alternative to the microwave for cooking.

Counting down to picking up our LD in mid-April,

Robin