Adding roof racks for a boat August 24, 2018, 02:01:23 pm Hi,We have a 2001 31' LD. I have seen mention in older posts of adding roof racks and securing them to existing side beams without drilling additional holes in the roof. Has anyone done this and can anyone post pictures of the roof with new racks, please? Or the installation in process? I want to carry a 25' single sculling boat weighing <25 lbs, which is usually mounted on a purpose built cradle attached to regular crossbar racks.Thanks in advance for any advice, experience, or lessons learned with this. LW
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #1 – August 24, 2018, 03:25:44 pm Quote from: lwpgh - August 24, 2018, 02:01:23 pmHi,We have a 2001 31' LD. I have seen mention in older posts of adding roof racks and securing them to existing side beams without drilling additional holes in the roof. Has anyone done this and can anyone post pictures of the roof with new racks, please? Or the installation in process? I want to carry a 25' single sculling boat weighing <25 lbs, which is usually mounted on a purpose built cradle attached to regular crossbar racks.Thanks in advance for any advice, experience, or lessons learned with this. LWWelcome to the Lazy Daze forum!Check this out: Rooftop racks for canoes or kayaks and this: 2003 Kayak rack | FlickrChris
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #2 – August 25, 2018, 12:14:06 pm I installed the rack system Chris referred to. I know I have posted here, but can’t find the magis search term to resurrect it, so maybe I imagined all that. In any case, Larry Wade showed me how to mount it and gave or a look-over after I was done. It works well. We carry a canoe up top, it weighs about 40 pounds. I use a more manual lifting method than Larry. You mention a boat, so I wonder where what you are going to hoist up there? 2 Likes
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #3 – August 25, 2018, 01:49:12 pm "We carry a canoe up top,..."Noted that you have your canoe mounted stern first, as opposed to bow forward. Any particular reason for that?
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #4 – August 25, 2018, 02:43:04 pm Paul,Thank you - this is really helpful and exactly what I was hoping for!I am hoping to carry a single sculling boat - which is not very heavy (~25 lbs), but super long (about 25 feet). The boat looks like this - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mGIzfPd4bB8/maxresdefault.jpg (though this is not mine). They are made of carbon fiber with a mix of aluminum and stainless steel fittings of various types. The rigger with oarlocks unbolts and is carried separately, so the hull itself is about 14 inches wide at the widest point and is typically transported in a padded Oxford cloth bag to protect it from road debris and tied into a rack which u-bolts onto the crossbar rack (Single Shell Rack – HUDSON US). I would love to be able to slide the boat in through the back window, but I think that would make the LD fairly non functional on the inside. Plus I would need a sliding window in the backlLiz
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #5 – August 25, 2018, 03:10:23 pm HI Chris,Thank you both for the welcome and for the info. I had found the earlier conversation, but was hoping for some visual info - I really appreciate the Flickr link. as well as the pics from Paul. The factory had explained it, but I could not quite vizualize what they were describing. My single is pretty light, but hauling it up by hand is definitely not something I look forward to. I am going to take some time to study this - I don't see why it would not work. We also have kayaks and I had not even thought of trying to haul them onto the roof because of the weight!Liz
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #6 – August 25, 2018, 07:49:38 pm Steve, not sure what you are seeing, but no, the bow is in front, where the Bell canoe decal is. It is settled science that carrying a canoe stern first will cause bad luck! I did make my mounting blocks so that the stern rides higher, you know, for that added downforce.
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #7 – August 25, 2018, 09:06:58 pm "...the bow is in front..."Now there's a good example of what aging eyes will do for you... take good care of them while you've got em! 1 Likes
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #8 – August 26, 2018, 12:21:26 am I see the problem. The blue tiedown leads to an illusion that it is the edge of the transom in the default pic size. Blowing the pic up clarifies it.If it's bad luck to carry a canoe backwards, was it infelicitous to back into that campsite? What did you hit? Joel
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #9 – August 26, 2018, 12:59:12 am Uh Oh. I never thought about the implications of reversing the direction of travel... Hmmm...OK, I just checked, and according to what-I-am-making-up-and-putting-on-the-internet-to-make-it-true, it is OK since the canoe is made to back as well as the vehicle. Could explain why I have not backed into anything when the canoe is on top of any vehicle. 1 Likes
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #10 – August 26, 2018, 09:25:04 pm Quote from: lwpgh - August 25, 2018, 02:43:04 pmPaul,Thank you - this is really helpful and exactly what I was hoping for!I am hoping to carry a single sculling boat - which is not very heavy (~25 lbs), but super long (about 25 feet). The boat looks like this - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mGIzfPd4bB8/maxresdefault.jpg (though this is not mine). They are made of carbon fiber with a mix of aluminum and stainless steel fittings of various types. The rigger with oarlocks unbolts and is carried separately, so the hull itself is about 14 inches wide at the widest point and is typically transported in a padded Oxford cloth bag to protect it from road debris and tied into a rack which u-bolts onto the crossbar rack (Single Shell Rack – HUDSON US). I would love to be able to slide the boat in through the back window, but I think that would make the LD fairly non functional on the inside. Plus I would need a sliding window in the backlLizWow, that is one slick scull! For the last 30-odd years we have spent a week on Fallen Leaf Lake just off the southwest corner of Lake Tahoe. Each morning of the week I would go out at 6:30 and single scull on the dead calm water. The most peaceful moments imaginable. But I’m a rank amateur, and used a “fat” boat, much wider than yours, for stability. This after having rolled the skinny version a couple of times. Those alpine lakes just do not warm up in summer. Ours were a lot shorter, as well. I’ll watch with interest to see what your finished setup looks like with a 25 foot craft! — Jon, currently in Tokyo, on the lookout for those skinny export LDs. 1 Likes
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #11 – August 26, 2018, 10:08:01 pm Quote from: paul banbury - August 26, 2018, 12:59:12 amUh Oh. I never thought about the implications of reversing the direction of travel... Hmmm... Maybe it's a form of time travel.Have you notice the scapes and scratches disappearing, from the hull, as you put the miles on?Let me know, it would be nice to undo some of the blemishes on our boatsLarry 1 Likes
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #12 – August 26, 2018, 11:40:45 pm Anyone consider getting one of these Kayaks, Pakayaks?PAKAYAK – The Ultimate Kayak-Dave
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #13 – August 27, 2018, 02:20:25 am Secotional kayaks have been around for years but have always been very expensive.; $1800 is cheap, assuming it’s a decent boat to paddle.Looking forward to seeing one.Larry
Re: Adding roof racks for a boat Reply #14 – September 01, 2018, 10:55:26 pm The pakayak looks very cool. Be interested to see what you think.
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