Earthquake April 05, 2018, 09:59:00 pm Saw on the news that SoCal had a 5.3...hoping all the LD family in the area are well.There have been some reports that some of the Oklahoma fracking quakes have registered up into Missouri--I've apparently slept through them. The New Madrid of 1812 reportedly changed the course of the Mississippi & had the river running backwards for a bit (showme.net/~fkeller/quake/mississippi_river_ran_backward.htm), & they say Missouri is on borrowed time for the next one, but I've never felt the earth move--in any sense of the phrase--so don't know how un-nerving a 5.3 would be...but was thinking about y'all.Lynne 1 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #1 – April 06, 2018, 09:42:46 am Earthquakes, fires, mudslides, etc. Welcome to California, lol!
Re: Earthquake Reply #2 – April 06, 2018, 10:10:27 am Quote from: HiLola - April 06, 2018, 09:42:46 amEarthquakes, fires, mudslides, etc. Welcome to California, lol! Your disaster list omitted the legislature 6 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #3 – April 06, 2018, 10:26:39 am Quote from: joel wiley - April 06, 2018, 10:10:27 amYour disaster list omitted the legislature I didn't want to violate forum decorum so . . .
Re: Earthquake Reply #4 – April 06, 2018, 10:43:27 am Many areas of California experience frequent "shakers"; most aren't even noticed. If a bunch of native Californians are in one place when a shaker hits, it's pretty sure that there will be speculation about the magnitude: "A 3.5?" "Nah, think it was more like a 4, maybe even a 4.2." Earthquakes are nothing to make light of, but I've had people tell me that they couldn't possibly live in California because there are earthquakes. In my experience, these comments are almost always from those who live in regions where tornadoes, hurricanes, sand and/or dust storms, and downright awful weather are regular occurrences. YMMV, for sure!How big was it? Earthquake magnitude calculator."How Much Bigger…?" Calculator 1 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #5 – April 06, 2018, 11:24:57 am <smile> Joan - here in Portland we live about 80 or so mile from a very large active volcano - Mt Hood. The whole Cascade range is made up of active volcanos. And just to make live even more interesting we are looking forward to the 'big' one. A earthquake that will last between 15 to 40 minutes. Sooooooo welcome to the PNW.
Re: Earthquake Reply #6 – April 06, 2018, 11:44:41 am Quote from: HiLola - April 06, 2018, 10:26:39 amI didn't want to violate forum decorum so . . . And your discretion is appreciated.Chris 1 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #7 – April 06, 2018, 12:09:07 pm We were both sitting in our coach yesterday when the temblor hit. We both knew almost instantly what it was. Not knowing how far away the epicenter was, makes it hard to guess on magnitude. But since we only could feel the motion for maybe 10-15 seconds, I felt that was a moderate quake not that far away.A couple of earthquake memories:Many years ago we were having lunch in a Santa Barbara restaurant when a good shaker hit. It was easy to tell the tourists from the long time locals by their reactions.We heard about San Francisco's 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake watching a World Series baseball game, but did not feel any motion near Santa Barbara. But we soon became aware that the water in our swimming pool was slowly sloshing back and forth.Art
Re: Earthquake Reply #8 – April 06, 2018, 12:45:02 pm Quote from: colddog - April 06, 2018, 11:24:57 am<smile> Joan - here in Portland we live about 80 or so mile from a very large active volcano - Mt Hood. The whole Cascade range is made up of active volcanos. And just to make live even more interesting we are looking forward to the 'big' one. A earthquake that will last between 15 to 40 minutes. Sooooooo welcome to the PNW. A couple of appropriate songs, perhaps, for this discussion?Ring of Fire:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-zNQA5Xi4QLiving on the Fault Line:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17PmVEPpSWo 2 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #9 – April 06, 2018, 01:28:50 pm Hi all,Yes we fear the unknown. This Midwesterner is fine with tornadoes and blizzards I grew up knowing all about them. It is what I know. Earthquakes OMG they are completely unknown to me. So I applaud your nonchalance over earthquakes accept that they scare the heck out of me, and accept my nonchalance over thunder, lightning and snow storms. tlbh2o 1 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #10 – April 06, 2018, 01:40:24 pm Quote from: Older_Fossil - April 06, 2018, 12:09:07 pmWe heard about San Francisco's 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake watching a World Series baseball game, but did not feel any motion near Santa Barbara. But we soon became aware that the water in our swimming pool was slowly sloshing back and forth.This reminds me of the story from Devils Hole in Death Valley NP. Back in January, Alaska experienced a 7.9 quake off its coast. A few minutes later, the water in Devils Hole -- about 2,000 miles away -- started sloshing.Alaska Quake Shakes Water in Devils Hole - Death Valley National Park (U.S.... 2 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #11 – April 06, 2018, 03:11:37 pm Quote from: Chris Horst - April 06, 2018, 11:44:41 amAnd your discretion is appreciated.ChrisMy bad, will try to be better.There was a 2.8 earthquake centered around Graeyeagle, CA around 20 years ago that was felt in our office along the American River. The response was a few people 'prairie dogging' their cubicles and others popping out numbers: 2.5, 2.8, 3.1, 3.0, 2.7 while the floor went gently rolling.
Re: Earthquake Reply #12 – April 06, 2018, 03:17:52 pm Another youtube selection on California's problems:Slip sliding away ( or something like that) 2 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #13 – April 06, 2018, 07:36:03 pm Okay, so I’ve grown up around California earthquakes all of my life. Some I feel...others I don’t. I’m not immune to their effects on my nevrvous system and I take them with a precautionary alertness.Some residents in earthquake country tend to respond more quickly to earthquakes. https://youtu.be/wSCwOMyAlRkIf I were up that high and could fly, I’d probably react similarly. Some of us are just a bit more cautious.Kent 1 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #14 – April 07, 2018, 12:19:13 pm The first time we experienced an earthquake was when we were vacationing in Palm Springs in a condo. It was the Hector Mine quake with the epicenter about 50 miles away. I was awakened by the intense chattering of the floor-to-ceiling shutters on the sliders. Because the pool man had alerted us to the Santa Ana winds the day before, I thought it was that. I then sleepily thought, "Wow. They really need a new waterbed because we are shaking like biscuits on a pan." When I woke up enough to remember we were not on a waterbed, I realized it was an earthquake.I jumped up and went into the living room to find a sculptural triptych had fallen and was halfway across the room. And out in the pool, the water had whitecaps. And outside, where I figured it would be mayhem, barking dogs and car alarms...silence broken only by the sound of a lone motorcycle leaving town! That was a 7.2 or .3; the aftershock in a couple of hours was in the 5.1 or so level. I didn't sleep much for the rest of the trip.More recent earthquakes while in the Anza Borrego AND the Prague, Oklahoma quake were "enjoyed" with a little more calm. Did note that in OK quake we were inside "Wild Thing" and it just bounced pretty good. Blizzards, nor'easters and hurricanes---no problem, we know they're on the way; Earthquakes---yikes!TinaP2006 MB "Wild Thing"Taking the Florida sun before we head home to Maine in May 1 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #15 – April 07, 2018, 01:44:29 pm Quote from: joel wiley - April 06, 2018, 10:10:27 amYour disaster list omitted the legislature Well, we do get that in Missouri, too...but I can't sleep through that. I, too, am good with midwestern "thunder, lightning, and snowstorms"--I'm on high ground & about as far from the New Madrid fault as I can get in Missouri.Glad people are OK. The various shared experiences were enlightening should I ever be there...& worthy of a chortle from TinaP ("Wow. They really need a new waterbed because we are shaking like biscuits on a pan." When I woke up enough to remember we were not on a waterbed, I realized it was an earthquake.") & the mention about Wild Thing bouncing with the OK quake made me think of some of the winds that I've felt when I've stayed out at the farm on the hill & wondered if I needed to pull her back inside the barn.Loved the eagle & musical additions.Lynne
Re: Earthquake Reply #16 – April 07, 2018, 02:21:37 pm I think the biggest hazards for loss of life in earthquakes are the lack of appropriate building codes and builders following them.
Re: Earthquake Reply #17 – April 07, 2018, 03:38:23 pm Quote from: joel wiley - April 07, 2018, 02:21:37 pmI think the biggest hazards for loss of life in earthquakes are the lack of appropriate building codes and builders following them.I've heard the same about structural deficiencies in Tornado Alley & in the hurricane zones. It was really interesting to me to see all the raised homes when I went to the Gulf last Christmas...most houses in the midwest were pretty much re-built as they'd been after the Flood of '93 through the Missouri & Mississippi watershed, but FEMA did pay to move the town of Pattonsburg, MO, which is about forty miles from me (pattonsburgmo.org/pview.aspx?id=16059&catid=461). The old town wasn't leveled (it feels a little spooky to drive through it) & Ang Lee actually used part of it for a movie set for Ride With the Devil about Civil War guerilla acts between pro-south Missourians & Kansas Jayhawkers (Lawrence Burning – Inside Columbia) . I may blow away on my high ground, but if I start floatin' everybody's gonna need an ark. Lynne
Re: Earthquake Reply #18 – April 07, 2018, 03:46:07 pm Hmmm. Large Earthquakes Still Possible in the Central United States | Science |... 1 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #19 – April 07, 2018, 04:38:27 pm Quote from: Tina Pratt - April 07, 2018, 12:19:13 pmThe first time we experienced an earthquake was when we were vacationing in Palm Springs in a condo.The first (and only) time I've ever felt an earthquake was on October 28, 1983...the Borah Peak 7.3 earthquake, about 19 miles northeast of Mackay, ID.We were living in Spokane, WA at the time and I was in an early-morning breakfast meeting. Suddenly, I started feeling faint and wondered what in the world was wrong with me. Then I looked around at the expression on others' faces and realized it was an earthquake!There's some interesting reading about the quake on the Internet for those interested...just Google "Borah Peak Earthquake."
Re: Earthquake Reply #20 – April 07, 2018, 05:10:36 pm I was living in Alameda at the time of the Loma Prieta quake in 1989, however was in San Diego for training at the time of the actual quake.1989 Loma Prieta earthquake - WikipediaThe largest quake I was actually near (living in Atascadero) was the San Simeon quake in 2003. There were only two deaths in that quake and that's because two women tried to run out of an unreinforced masonry building; a natural instinct but deadly in this case. If ever involved in a earthquake, best to stay put, stay away from windows or any other glass, and get underneath something sturdy such as a heavy desk or table, or an interior doorway.6.5 quake razes landmark, kills two in Paso Robles / COLLAPSE: Building...
Re: Earthquake Reply #21 – April 07, 2018, 05:51:59 pm Earthquakes to me are a bit scary because you never know when or where they are going to occur! I've been in 2 so far... The first one in Ohio in 1986, it was a 5.0 and I was pretty close to the epicenter. The second in 2001 in Washington, a 6.8, that was a bit scary, because I was stopped at a red light at the time and had to drive over a bridge when the light turned green (I waited a bit for other cars to drive over it first). I will tell you that whenever I am on the coast I ALWAYS know my Tsunami escape route!!Currently where I live I am surrounded by three volcanos, so if a major earthquake hits, I'm in trouble. ...just hoping I never have to worry about it. 2 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #22 – April 08, 2018, 11:18:21 am A friend of mine lived in San Francisco for 20 years. One day she was eating lunch with her mother, who was visiting from NJ, in a restaurant and an earthquake "hit." Her mother was alarmed as she felt it and saw the telephone and power poles waving and asked "What's happening?" My friend looked out the window and responded, "Oh, it's just a roller."She knew then she had gotten waaay too casual about earthquakes and it was time to return to the East Coast.TinaP2006 MB "Wild Thing"
Re: Earthquake Reply #23 – April 08, 2018, 04:08:25 pm We missed the quake, being on a plane heading to Portland, Oregon, for a family GTG.BTW. Oregon is very unprepared state with a huge earthquake potential, as bad or worse as California.http://www.oregon.gov/DOGAMI/Pages/earthquakes/EQs.aspxAnyplace you live, nature has an event that can kill you, welcome to life.Nice thing about earthquakes is you don't know when they are coming, unlike tornadoes and hurricanes, not to mention blizzards and flooding. With earthquakes, you prepared your home, vehicle and mind and then move on. Excessive worrying does nothing positive. Our previous home was right on top of the Northridge quake epicenter and it was quite a ride but we had prepped the house as well as possible and came through with just cosmetic damage. Tying down the tall furniture and picture frames down plus having baby latches on the kitchen cabinets prevented a lot of damage, the interior came though mostly intact while our neighbors' homes were disaster zones. We had a big neighborhood BBQ at our place, the night of the quake, as everyone's refrigerators were off, with the power being down for a few days. We were fine having a 2000-watt generator to keep our food cold. We were very surprised how few of our neighbors had working flashlights, much less lanterns or any camping equipment.Preparation, both mentally and physically, is the key to increasing your survival chances.No matter were you live, and the potential natural hazards, you can take measures to help protect yourself and family.We consider our LD to be our survival shelter and try to keep it always filled with water, gas and propane.I take comfort in the words of Jim Morrison, of the Doors, "No one gets out of here alive".No matter what we do, the end game is the same.Don't worry, be happy.Larry 5 Likes
Re: Earthquake Reply #24 – April 08, 2018, 04:42:05 pm I've been thru 2 major earthquakes; the 1971 Sylmar and the 1994 Northridge quakes. Both had a magnitude of 6.7.In 1971 I pulled an all nighter at work and had just collapsed on the bed shortly before the Sylmar quake hit. I woke up enough to see that the house was still standing and went back to sleep. A few hours later my dad woke me up and said that he had my van packed and the police were evacuating the neighborhood because the Van Norman dam was about to give way. For the next week or so my mother, father, brother, sister and I squeezed into my sisters one bedroom apartment in Burbank. Not much damage to the house other than a broken window and what fell on the floor.The Northridge quake was much worse. The epicentre was literally right under my house. All other earthquakes I've felt were rolling or swaying back and forth. This was violently up and down and seemed to last forever. All told the quake did $90k in damage to the house, driveway and pool. We lived in our travel trailer for two weeks before the utilities were restored. The saddest thing was the 62 deaths, 16 in the Northridge Gardens apartments just one block away.It took about a year but the neighborhood rebuilt, the freeways and shopping malls fixed and life goes on. The funny thing was that the fault that slipped in Northridge wasn't even known by geologists. I hope I never go through another major earthquake but I do believe that I'd rather experience a sudden jolt and the resulting consequences then watching and waiting for the hurricane, tornado, flood or fire to come.- Jack
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