Re: Water filter Reply #50 – July 08, 2017, 09:50:52 pm I'm with Paul and Judie here. That's what we do.As far as drinking distilled water, the probability of the lack of disolved minerals in the DO removing any minerals in your body is is negligible or less. We used to spread that same story to students at the JC and the high school where I taught science to discourage the students from drinking the expensive DO. I, on the other hand, drank it regularly for almost 30 years. I've still got bones and teeth and no problems yet.
Re: Water filter Reply #51 – July 08, 2017, 10:29:39 pm Bottled water vs tap water.An interesting article that will not change anyone's mind.Bottled Water Vs. Tap Water Comparison
Re: Water filter Reply #52 – July 08, 2017, 11:13:23 pm Quote from: Ed D. - July 08, 2017, 10:29:39 pmBottled water vs tap water.An interesting article that will not change anyone's mind.Bottled Water Vs. Tap Water ComparisonHere's my philosophy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GceNsojnMf0
Re: Water filter Reply #53 – July 08, 2017, 11:18:01 pm Interesting info about the purity of bottled water. I wish the article had addressed the issue of bacterial contamination. Cost of bottled should be obvious- more than gasoline, so yes, much more than tap water. And anyone buying the concept of water coming off glaciers into your bottle, well...Knowing there are government standards did nothing to help the poor people in Flint though. If tap water in campgrounds across the country all passed the standards for purity and safety at all times I would be drinking from the hose. But they don't. So far as I know, there are no actions against any major bottled water companies. So you are right Ed! 1 Likes
Re: Water filter Reply #54 – July 08, 2017, 11:51:42 pm Bottled water vs tap water. Ed said:"An interesting article that will not change anyone's mind. [Bottled Water Vs. Tap Water Comparison](Bottled Water Vs. Tap Water Comparison)"Exactly right, which is why we drink and cook with distilled water that we distill ourselves. In the 80's, we lived in Silicon Valley where the ground water was mega contaminated by the chemicals from . . . well, silicon production. My husband worked at a Superfund site - an Army Airfield Base and NASA installation three miles from our house. Even back then, Silicon Valley was starting to spring up all around us. He worked in an ancient building and had respiratory problems up the wazoo - a five-week bout with pneumonia in1989 nearly killed him. They didn't bring in bottled water to the base until well into the 90's, so the employees were drinking water that may very well have been contaminated mightily. His boss (who had been there for 40 years) and several of his co-workers died of cancer, and, as some of you know, he himself has an incurable cancer now. Is this just chance, or was the scene set way back in the 70's, when he first went to work there? Can't know the answer, but it seems prudent to keep as many pollutants as possible out of our bodies now.Plain bottled water? No thank you, but we do believe in filtering out as much as possible for general use, and then distilling enough for drinking and cooking. It is usual to boil water for coffee, tea and pasta and other grain-type ingredients, but what soaks into the food itself? Thus the use of distilled water for these purposes as well.Everyone must decide what is best for themselves, and this is the tack that we have taken. Virtual hugs, Judie 1 Likes
Re: Water filter Reply #55 – July 27, 2017, 10:07:49 pm Came across this interesting article. Just when you thought it was safe to go back in , or drink, the water. 🦈Check Out This Online Database to See Which Chemicals Are in Your Tap Water...
Re: Water filter Reply #56 – November 04, 2017, 03:35:30 pm This post shares some details about the water filtration system we recently added to our 27’ MB (Sidra), and my approach to potable water handling. I’m sharing the information here because this thread significantly influenced my choice of filtration systems and my approach to potable water handling.A BIG THANK YOU to everyone who contributed to this thread. Selecting a water filtration system and potable water handling approach required a bit of self-education – inspired and facilitated by LDO members, and an understanding of our water safety and consumption preferences. Requirement 1: Complete confidence that the water in Sidra’s fresh tank is safe for drinking and all other uses.Requirement 2: Drinking water that tastes very good, at least an 8 on a scale to 10, where 10 is “this water is nectar.” In our home we have used a whole house water softener and RO drinking water system for more than 30 years. Requirement 3: The procedures and systems must be easy to use and service.We chose to go with:Pre-filtering the water before it goes in the fresh tank. For this we added a two-stage sediment filter and carbon block filter. We sourced the equipment from the RV Water Filter Store. (B2418 -- Dual 3/4" white canisters with Hose Fittings, Mounting Bracket, SED1 & F1pb)Secondary filtering of drinking water with an onboard, under sink ceramic/solid block carbon filter. Also sourced from RV Water Filter Store. (DWDUC -- Under Sink system with D-UC)Treat fresh tank water every 6 months with 3R Purogene (3R RV and Marine Holding Tank and Fresh Water Treatment). This is necessary because the pre-filter removes chlorine. Note that the Purogene treatment is not a soak and flush sanitization, but rather a chlorine dioxide addition. We will make this addition very precisely. Note that the drinking water filter will remove it from our drinking and cooking water.Setting up the exterior filtering system was easy. I built a folding stand that makes it easy to store and deploy (photo below). We get double value from the system because my son and I use it to filter the water we use for home brewing. Lee’s Mild, anyone? The under sink filter took some extra care to properly plumb and position for ease of service and best space utilization. I did NOT use the part supplied that’s meant to tap into the cold-water supply at the galley faucet. There wasn’t enough vertical space for it because the sink drain pipe is located directly below the hookup. In addition, the plastic fitting didn’t properly accept the threaded fitting at the end of the PEX. Instead I used a Watts ½” quick connect tee valve (see photos below). I also bought a PEX cutter to ensure proper, square cuts. We’re happy with the results. We judge the drinking water an 8 out of 10. We’ll carry some RO water for those times when we simply have to have something closer to nectar. 2 Likes
Re: Water filter Reply #57 – March 03, 2018, 11:05:12 am “Date line March 3, 2018”...This news just in...Ok...I just received an email from Dave at the Water Filter Store about their latest deal. I hold no financial interest in The Water Filter Store. Just passing on their latest deal.“Our limited time only SALE on our RV Essential System, a complete RV water filter system assembled and ready to use for less than $100! We truly appreciate your support! Please share with any friends who may be interested.”Thank you and safe travels! Dave and TraceyTHE RV ESSENTIAL SYSTEMComplete RV Filter System, assembled, ready to useonly $99.95 incl shipping!Top of the line whole RV Water Filtration for less than $100!Two-stage filter system removes sediment, chlorine, VOC's, cysts (giardia and cryptosporidium), lead and heavy metalsComplete with filters, wrench and hose fittings for quick set upAvailable with Garden Hose fittings for outdoor use or 1/2" pipe threads for mounting indoors Built with lead free, high-durability Dixon fittings and hardware (no plastic fittings)UNIVERSAL BRACKET & STAND COHere’s a little more info on the 0.5 micron filter included in the system.Pentek CFB-PB10 Water Filter Cartridge Replacement is a 10 inch molded carbon block water filter replacement for use in many water filter systems, especially under sink water filter systems, counter top filter systems, and/or reverse osmosis filter systems. The Pentek CFBPB10 is a standard diameter filter (2 1/2") made specifically to reduce lead and cysts, though it also combines chlorine reduction along with sediment removal in a single filter cartridge.This Pentek filter replacement cartridge uses advanced Fibredyne carbon block technology for up to two times the chlorine taste/odor reduction and dirt holding capacity of standard carbon block filters. In addition to reducing lead and cysts, it also reduces sediment, dirt, rust, limescale, sand, silt, and other particulates.Pentek CFB-PB10 Filter Replacement Specifications:Connection: Drop inTemp. Range: 40 - 180 FMicron Rating: 0.5 MicronDimensions: 9 3/4" length x 2 7/8" diameterFilter Media: Modified and molded carbon blockFlow Rate: About 1-2 GPM flow rate depending on specific filter systemFilter Life: About 3-6 months or 5,000 gallons depending on usage and water qualityNOTE: this cartridge should be flushed for a few minutes prior to first use in order to remove excess carbon finesPentek CFB Series water filter cartridges are manufactured entirely from FDA approved materials and can be used for numerous in home, commercial, food service, and light industrial uses.This Pentek CFB-PB10 filter is also known by Pentek part number 255681-43 / 25568143.The system on sale from Dave is the system that I have been using since mid 2017. It’s portable and easy to use and store. Just a FYIKent
Re: Water filter Reply #58 – March 03, 2018, 11:34:18 am Water Filter StoreRefill cartridges @27.95. Any idea as to how long they last?
Re: Water filter Reply #59 – March 03, 2018, 12:22:15 pm Spring water, directly from mother nature, that's what I drink if possible.
Re: Water filter Reply #60 – March 03, 2018, 12:43:19 pm Quote from: joel wiley - March 03, 2018, 11:34:18 amWater Filter StoreRefill cartridges @27.95. Any idea as to how long they last?"Filter Life: About 3-6 months or 5,000 gallons depending on usage and water quality"Spec sheethttps://www.rvwaterfilterstore.com/PDFs/Pentek-CFB-PB10.pdf
Re: Water filter Reply #61 – March 03, 2018, 12:47:42 pm The Omnipure K5667 is a very efficient inline water filter:In-Line Filters: RV Water Filter StoreI'm still using the brass couplings from the original filter from years ago; the fittings don't wear out.
Re: Water filter Reply #62 – March 03, 2018, 01:33:12 pm Quote from: Jota - March 03, 2018, 12:22:15 pmSpring water, directly from mother nature, that's what I drink if possible.And is the perfect way to acquire giardiasis. Get it once and you will never drink straight out of a clear spring or stream again.On the plus side, it is a excellent way to lose a lot of weight. BTDTLarry 1 Likes
Re: Water filter Reply #63 – March 03, 2018, 01:53:01 pm I have been using a similiar pre-tank filtration setup to what CBSShermans has. I don't have an under sink setup as yet but plan on doing so. I know the filters need replacing after 3-6 months or about 5000 gallons. How are people storing their filtration systems after each use? After I fill my tank I drain as much water as possible and then cap off the inlet and outlet. If I don't take the rig out for several weeks I'm concerned that bacteria could grow on the interior between uses.
Re: Water filter Reply #64 – March 03, 2018, 01:59:55 pm Maybe I was just lucky, but backpacking in the High Sierras back in the early 70’s it was not uncommon that my backpacking buddies and I would fill our bota bags and make our Wylers Pink Lemonade straight from the stream.Never experienced any stomach or intestinal issues. Obviously, things have changed. If I’m not mistaken, the increase in Giardia in the high mountains and elsewhere is a direct result from farm land and field runoff at lower elevations and the little bugger making its way back to the mountain top via our fine feathered friends. This is what I heard way back when and drinking from streams became a thing of the past for me.Filter me this...please. 💦Kent
Re: Water filter Reply #65 – March 03, 2018, 02:06:38 pm rprice,You asked, “How are people storing their filtration systems after each use?”I do as instructed by Dave at RV Water Filter Store. After use (if filter is going into storage for more than a few weeks) I take the filters out after draining them and set them in the LD sink to dry for a few days. I then reassemble them and hang them in an outside LD storage bay. Dave also said the material in the filters do not run the risk of fungal growth but that drying them for long term storage is just good practice overall.Kent
Re: Water filter Reply #66 – March 03, 2018, 02:20:58 pm "...the increase in Giardia in the high mountains and elsewhere is a direct result from farm land and field runoff at lower elevations and the little bugger making its way back to the mountain top via our fine feathered friends.---General Information| Giardia | Parasites | CDC
Re: Water filter Reply #67 – March 03, 2018, 03:40:09 pm Kent"...backpacking in the High Sierras back in the early 70's [...] I would fill our bota bags and make our Wylers Pink Lemonade straight from the stream."You and I should sit down and reminisce about the places we've hiked. Back then I did not even consider treating my water. Only one occasion comes to mind where I did that, on a hike down to the Valley from Tuolumne Meadows. I drank from one spring using my Sierra Cup for many years without ill effect. Not sure I would try it today! And yes, that spring still runs.
Re: Water filter Reply #68 – March 03, 2018, 04:09:38 pm Don't let your dog(s) drink out of the creek (river, etc.), either; water from 'iffy' sources may not only contain giardia, but other bad stuff as well, i.e., E. coli, leptospira, salmonella, and campylobacter. Any of these can cause some very unpleasant symptoms (for you and the dog!), and, depending on the dog's overall health/condition, worse. Anyone who's had a dog with vomiting and diarrhea in the confines of a tent, van, or RV needs no further elaboration! Consider that no matter how 'pristine', clear, and flowing a creek and river might appear, there very well could be an unseen deer (elk, cow, other) carcass or other source of 'pollution' just upstream.
Re: Water filter Reply #69 – March 03, 2018, 05:39:06 pm "Giardia lives in the intestines of infected humans or other animals, individuals of which become infected by ingesting or coming into contact with contaminated foods, soil, or water tainted by the feces of an infected carrier."A common term for Giardia years ago was Beaver Fever. The Beaver (or other mammal) defecates in the water and without precautions that same water goes down your throat. Can't make it any clearer than that... Sorry Chris!
Re: Water filter Reply #70 – March 03, 2018, 06:06:24 pm Steve,“You and I should sit down and reminisce about the places we've hiked.” That would be nice. My backpacking days were great adventures. Far fewer than I would have hoped for. Back in the 35mm film camera days I got some great shots at Golden Trout Lake just below Piute Pass. And some awesome views of the river below as I hiked through Manzanita groves on the way to Evolution Valley. I never made it there but the hike and the images are etched in my mind. On that trip rain storms made their way through camp three times a day and made the river near Camp boil with the downpour of the High Sierra Spring storm. I used to love running along the rocky paths in my high top moccasins even while carrying my 40 lb Kelty. Imagine...Now a cup of coffee and a camp chair suit me fine. Brewed from some seriously filtered water from my very own Glamp Mobile. Plenty to talk about. Only wish I had done it more often.Kent 2 Likes
Re: Water filter Reply #71 – March 03, 2018, 07:15:41 pm Unless you dip into an artesian well, there is some herd upstream of you. I still have fond memories of dipping the sierra cup without harm. Still have the sierra cup. What vestiges of the joys of dipping into the clear sparking water that remained after a Field Sanitation in medical corps school were obliterated by a later parasitology class 1 Likes
Re: Water filter Reply #72 – March 03, 2018, 07:22:00 pm Quote from: JCT - March 03, 2018, 04:09:38 pmDon't let your dog(s) drink out of the creek (river, etc.), either; water from 'iffy' sources may not only contain giardia, but other bad stuff as well, i.e., E. coli, leptospira, salmonella, and campylobacter. And another addition in recent years is bluegreen algae cyanobacteria which builds up in low flowing rivers in the summertime and whose toxins have been fatal to dogs in N. Cal. Coming to a stream near you.
Re: Water filter Reply #73 – March 03, 2018, 07:36:51 pm Quote from: joel wiley - March 03, 2018, 07:15:41 pm I still have fond memories of dipping the sierra cup without harm. Still have the sierra cup. What vestiges of the joys of dipping into the clear sparking water that remained after a Field Sanitation in medical corps school were obliterated by a later parasitology class 60 years ago, there were were less people in the backcountry and the water was a lot purer.Even then, one of my backpacking buddies caught giardiasis while on an Outward Bound trip, in the Rockies.Giadia wasn't a well known problem and it took the docs a bit of time to figure out what was wrong with him.By the time he was finally given Flagyl, a particularly nasty medicine, he had lost 25 ponds.Since then, my wife, myself and several other friends have had waterborne illnesses. It made us believers in high-end water filters. Even when camping in the Alaskan wilderness, we have used water filters. A few minutes work can save days of misery.Our LD has a effective sink filter from the Water Store.I do miss drinking straight out of a stream .Larry 3 Likes
Re: Water filter Reply #74 – March 03, 2018, 07:41:00 pm "I do miss drinking straight out of a stream ."----Leah says she understands. 2 Likes
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