Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #25 – October 24, 2017, 09:47:20 am My wife refuses to even consider a B. She's looked inside a few and declared them too small and cramped.From an engineering perspective, part of the reason Bs are so expensive is because the motor vehicle has to be *converted* to a coach. In other words, builders have to literally hack, cut & saw significant portions of the van to re-work the body/chassis to route plumbing (gas & water)/electrical and then fit all the regular appliances, fixtures, etc.Logically, the best solution overall is a dedicated, custom built coach specifically designed for travel. Whether it's a towable unit (TT or 5W), a truck camper, or a class C, the true essence of RVing is to consider the coach separate from the motor vehicle. They are two completely different applications that require two distinct and different solutions. Not only infrastructure, but technology, depreciation, use, wear & tear, service & maintenance, etc.IMO, the class C is the true genius application. It makes sense a woodworking pro making truck campers realized he could remove the truck bed and expand the coach. Not only is LD the best in its class, its the originator of the model. We don't use our 22' very much, but when we do, I am always struck by how perfect it really is - so well conceived, thought out and executed. 5 Likes
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #26 – October 24, 2017, 03:03:55 pm Quote from: snerf - October 24, 2017, 09:47:20 amIMO, the class C is the true genius application. It makes sense a woodworking pro making truck campers realized he could remove the truck bed and expand the coach. Not only is LD the best in its class, its the originator of the model. It's amazing what a talented woodworker can accomplish! Here is another success story for all you guitar pickin' folks!Our Story | Gallagher Guitar
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #27 – October 25, 2017, 01:09:40 pm This is a class B I wouldn't mind having. Better on the Ford Tranist, but still pretty cool.Custom Mercedes Sprinter Airstream Trailer Motorhome - rvs - by owner -... 2 Likes
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #28 – October 25, 2017, 07:41:48 pm Step 1: buy a brand-new Airstream trailer.Step 2: gut it....chip
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #29 – October 25, 2017, 11:27:09 pm Quote from: Chip Chester - October 25, 2017, 07:41:48 pmStep 1: buy a brand-new Airstream trailer.Step 2: gut it....He spent a lot of money to buy a shell.Who knows why he ripped out a nicely done, new interior when an old Airstream would logically have been a better choice.Maybe he wanted a shiny, new aluminum skin.He must have had a dream...later he woke up.Larry
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #30 – November 05, 2017, 10:06:29 pm Looks like Foretravel is getting into the Class B game.I don't like the layout, for what they give you, it is very expensive $185,000 and very long too.Foretravel Motorcoach - 2018 Foretravel MicroVilla
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #31 – November 06, 2017, 07:46:04 am 17 fresh, 9 gray, 9 black tanks. 3.1 cu ft fridge.Pass.
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #32 – November 06, 2017, 08:19:16 am I believe that's a prototype and the only one they've built - they are trying to figure out what to build for those who want to downsize or don't want a 45' 13'6" high behemoth. Suspect it's very heavy with the choice of materials.Too bad the company sold in 2005 - they used to build a lower-profile (11' 6" tall), smarter DP, including some that were 34' long. The current ownership is targeting a completely different customer demographic.
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #33 – November 06, 2017, 09:26:09 am Quote from: Michelle C - November 06, 2017, 08:19:16 amI believe that's a prototype and the only one they've built - they are trying to figure out what to build for those who want to downsize or don't want a 45' 13'6" high behemoth. Suspect it's very heavy with the choice of materials.Too bad the company sold in 2005 - they used to build a lower-profile (11' 6" tall), smarter DP, including some that were 34' long. The current ownership is targeting a completely different customer demographic.Do you miss your "behemoth", Michelle?Chris
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #34 – November 06, 2017, 09:50:37 am "17 fresh, 9 gray, 9 black tanks. 3.1 cu ft fridge."Those were the first stats that jumped out at me! Add they say "up to 5,000 pounds towing capacity" when their own figures show a maximum of 4,220 . . . proofreader needed! Well, maybe the "up to" is expected to be comforting to the buyer."• 11030 lbs. GVWR • 15250 lbs. GCWR"It seems to me to be a "people mover", executive style, from one luxury venue to another. Going in style, fur sure! Virtual hugs, Judie 1 Likes
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #35 – November 06, 2017, 10:52:12 am Quote from: Chris Horst - November 06, 2017, 09:26:09 amDo you miss your "behemoth", Michelle?Ha Ha! Ours wasn't anywhere near that big - we were one of the last "good years" So far we are really enjoying our LTV Unity. In a few years we'll probably upsize to a DP again, but definitely not one as big an an IH or Realm. I do miss having the larger galley and washer/dryer for the type of cooking and multi-month travel we typically do, but the Unity is absolutely perfect for what we need and want right now.
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #36 – November 06, 2017, 11:48:58 am This Earthroamer is not a 'B', but if I spent $438,000 bucks for a rig, having a real toilet and adequate black water capacity would be a must! This thing has bells and whistles and shiny stuff galore - and a 5-gallon cassette toilet! "Our black water cassette system is simple and convenient to empty without having to search far and wide for a standard RV dump station, which are often closed in winter."There's so little logic to this loopy statement that one hardly knows where to start with a rebuttal. Since this is a go anywhere, offroad vehicle, designed to camp and travel where there are no facilities, 'simple and convenient' apparently translates to just dumping the effluent behind a bush or in a ditch wherever and whenever the pot happens to need emptying?! Another 'WTH?' (The last consonant is usually not an 'H'!) moment.
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #37 – November 06, 2017, 12:53:24 pm I give up. What the heck is holding up that awning? I can’t imagine the stress being placed on those struts and the fittings at the coach. Maybe ok in perfectly calm conditions but . . . And are they proud of the unfinished wood inside the one cabinet? Guess they’ll be sleeping in sleepsacks cause that “bed” looks mighty tough to make up. As a trial balloon, this is a lead weight — Jon
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #38 – November 06, 2017, 02:18:29 pm The awning will not be deployed often, the wind sensor will have it closed most of the time.I applaud them for trying. It can't be cheap to try and come up with a new design using an all new chassis.I wish Lazy Daze could afford to play around like this.
Re: Class B suggestions? Reply #39 – November 06, 2017, 02:35:03 pm "What the heck is holding up that awning?"The awning looks to be a Fiamma or a Fiamma copy (see attached photo), only Foretravel didn't bother to mount the lower attachment points for the side struts. I guess they thought it would spoil the sleek looks. But wind sensor or not, Jota's right: this awning won't be usable most of the time.I think Judie nailed it: "It seems to me to be a 'people mover,' executive style, from one luxury venue to another." Looking at the seating, plus the minimal galley and tank sizes, I agree: this is not be meant to an RV; rather, it's an executive limousine.
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