New ad for 1998 26.5 MB February 19, 2017, 11:36:57 am Saw this posted this morning 1998 26.5 MB just posted on CL 1998 Lazy Daze 26.5' Mid Bath 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #1 – February 19, 2017, 04:18:13 pm Thanks for posting. I'm scheduled to see it tomorrow. It looks like a nice rig.Mimi 2 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #2 – February 19, 2017, 04:44:06 pm Good Luck Mimi I hope it's in good shape with no leaks. I like the green even better than my blue one. 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #3 – February 19, 2017, 04:58:45 pm The ad lists this 1998 as being on an E350 Ford chassis; according to the "Changes by Year" doc, 1996 was the last year for the 26.5' on the E350 chassis (460 engine) with a 11500 pound GVWR. Again, according to the above doc, the 1998 26.5' should be built on the early E450, and the GVWR should be 14050 pounds; obviously, the greater GVWR is a plus. I think that the early E450s were just labeled "Super Duty" without the actual E450 badge, so the owner may have assumed that the chassis was an E350.Information in a seller's ad is not always accurate, so anyone interested in this rig might want to run the VIN to make sure that the actual rig specs jibe with what's stated in the ad. Joan 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #4 – February 19, 2017, 04:58:59 pm Please keep in mind that it is the 350 chassis, i.e. VERY tiny payload. Towing will be VERY iffy, particularly with a heavy tow car.Virtual hugs,JudieAdventures of Dorrie Anne | Photographing the WestToday: Moros y Christianos ****************************** 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #5 – February 19, 2017, 05:08:50 pm "Please keep in mind that it is the 350 chassis, i.e. VERY tiny payload."----Definitely agree on that point, but, using the "Changes by Year" document as the source of information, if the rig in question is a 1998, it should be on the E450 chassis. 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #6 – February 19, 2017, 05:17:54 pm Joan I bet you are right and it is a e450. The ad states v10 and not the 460 engine. I wouldn't think the original owner would make a mistake on the year. But I could see a mistake on the e350 if not badged with anything but super duty. 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #7 – February 19, 2017, 05:24:50 pm That was the first thing that came to my mind, too, i.e. that the year/chassis was wrong, but was too lazy to go look it up. I thought it was mid-year 1996, or maybe even 1997, so my "scam alarm" went off. I know I am maybe too suspicious for my own good, but what can I say - I grew up in Miami !!! With the year 2003 being a milestone year, I would limit myself to units at that age or newer, but not everyone has the same criteria. Virtual hugs, Judie•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~• 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #8 – February 19, 2017, 05:36:12 pm Wow! You guys and gals are amazing! I'll look at the changes by year. I haven't done that yet. The larger GVWR would be a welcome benefit.
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #9 – February 19, 2017, 05:42:26 pm Judie,I am pretty new to the LD products. What makes 2003 a milestone year? Looking at the changes by year. I don't see much difference between 2002 and 2003 just windows and bathroom carpet. Was there other changes? 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #10 – February 19, 2017, 07:06:48 pm Quote from: Duro - February 19, 2017, 05:42:26 pmJudie,I am pretty new to the LD products. What makes 2003 a milestone year? Looking at the changes by year. I don't see much difference between 2002 and 2003 just windows and bathroom carpet. Was there other changes?Thermopane-style (air gap-about ¼") windows replace laminated windows (2 panes sandwiched together). Although this was supposed to be an upgrade, there have been fogging problems with the thermopane windows.Chris 4 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #11 – February 19, 2017, 07:33:22 pm 2003 was the first year that the 23.5' was built on the E450 (14050 pound GVWR) chassis; the 2550-pound GVWR chassis upgrade from the 11500 GVWR E350 was the reason I waited to order the TK. 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #12 – February 19, 2017, 07:43:26 pm Another big change in 2003 was the upholstery fabric. 2002 and earlier had upholstery that was soft like velour. 2003 was the first year for fabric that is densly woven, with dirt hiding patterns. Somebody described the pattern of the fabric as an explosion in a paint factory . I can say that it has proven very durable!Steve K. (2003 midbath) 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #13 – February 19, 2017, 08:03:11 pm Quote from: Steve K. - February 19, 2017, 07:43:26 pmAnother big change in 2003 was the upholstery fabric. 2002 and earlier had upholstery that was soft like velour. 2003 was the first year for fabric that is densly woven, with dirt hiding patterns. Somebody described the pattern of the fabric as an explosion in a paint factory . I can say that it has proven very durable!Steve K. (2003 midbath)Sounds like LD went back to what they had in the older models. The denser fabric you describe sounds similar to what they used in my '85- very durable! 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #14 – February 20, 2017, 01:13:53 am That should be a 4kw generator, Onan Emerald Plus, not a 2.8. The MicroLite was 2.8kw. The MicroQuiet was 4kw. Both had an internal muffler. In 1998 LD installed the 4.kw. Onan Emerald Plus with an external muffler. Noisy devil but durable. Maybe the generator was replaced with a MicroLite? Ronb 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #15 – February 20, 2017, 11:19:08 am I haven't studied generators much (perhaps I should before typing this:-) but I was wondering, if the later generators were more efficient than the earlier ones and, if so, regardless of how many hours remain, does it make sense to get a new one when purchasing a 90's rig? Is the difference between 2.8kw and 4.0kw significant?Thanks...Mimi
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #16 – February 20, 2017, 01:13:51 pm 2.8 Kilo watt generator will run a 11,000 BTU Air Conditioner. 4 Kw will run a 13,000 BTU air conditioner. 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #17 – February 20, 2017, 01:17:52 pm Quote from: rodneyhelfrich - February 20, 2017, 01:13:51 pm2.8 Kilo watt generator will run a 11,000 BTU Air Conditioner. 4 Kw will run a 13,000 BTU air conditioner. It runs our 15,000 BTU AC also.Jim 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #18 – February 20, 2017, 01:24:38 pm Thanks Jim. I thought the 4Kw generator would run a 15,000 BTU Air Conditioner. I just could not find the PDF document that told me so. 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #19 – February 20, 2017, 06:23:26 pm Looking at the Onan/Cummings site I found this is what they say about their Microlight 2.8kw"Air conditioner operation:2.8kW generator set will start and run one 13500 Btu high efficiency air conditioner(15.5 Amps or less) plus 600 watt base load with an additional 300 watts of power available. 2.5kW generator set will start and run one 13500 Btu high efficiency air conditioner (15.5 Amps or less) plus a 600 watt base load with no additional watts of power available. 2.3kW generator set will start and run one 7800 Btu high efficiency air conditioner(5.5 Amps or less) plus 600 watt base load with an additional 100 watts of power available." 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #20 – February 21, 2017, 09:02:36 pm The 4K Microquiet will run the 15,000 BTU A/C and microwave concurrently, that is, until the fridge (on electric) kicks in.With that revelation behind us, our policy is give the A/C unit a rest while using the microwave.Steve 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #21 – February 21, 2017, 10:10:03 pm Mimi did you go check out the 1998 MB 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #22 – February 22, 2017, 04:01:38 am The right rear outer window pane is fractured. Funny how that wasn't pictured in the ad. The caulk around the shower vent looks like cracked and blistered petrified lava rock. This rig has -never- been sealed. I couldn't find any water damage (doesn't rain much in Vegas) but the heat has definitely taken its toll on this rig. Buckled and rippled wall paper, vinyl, etc. made me wonder what else the heat damaged inside that I couldn't see ie. belts, hoses, washers, etc. Tires are from 2009, but he doesn't agree that they need to be replaced because he's kept it parked next to the garage in the sun, but he said the garage shaded all the uncovered wheels. I mentioned that I would not drive all the way home on those tires. They did not agree that the tires were an issue. The engine hesitated when starting. It runs very bumpy and noisy, odd noisy. They had it repainted in 2010 I think it was, so it looks good. The inside looks good too, but there are problems. The side mirrors don't function horizontally. The backup camera is all but pretty useless. Problems with the air conditioner leaking. Not entirely sure it's functioning normally now. He mentioned to me on the phone that he brought the rig to Vegas from NM. I thought that meant they were living in NM. Actually, they've lived in Vegas for over 30 years, so, I'm not sure how he can be the original owner. I asked for maintenance records. He gave me a sheet of paper with about 8 items he typed on it. I asked if he had original maintenance paperwork, he said he might have a couple of things. The scrapes are on the right side of the rig from mid-front to mid-back and partially bent one of the door hinges. I didn't see any water stains inside, but it's Vegas.On the upside, it is nice inside. It really looks good, but for the cracked vents. Still, for a 20 year old rig, it looks pretty good.In summation, given the lack of documentation, given that they were less than forthright about the issues in the ad and during our conversations, the fact that he told me the window didn't need to be repaired because it hadn't gotten worse, and the blistering heat this poor rig has been subjected to for years in Vegas without shelter, wheels never covered and the lumpy, bumpy noisy engine, I'm not interested. If they sold it to me for 8K, I might buy it knowing that I could easily put 10K into it, but even then I fear the hidden issues caused by the blistering desert sun and heat and the lack of maintenance.So, this is the last time I will ever drive to see a LD.
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #23 – February 22, 2017, 09:01:40 am Sorry to hear that this particular unit was not up to par, Mimi. It is disappointing when a seller misrepresents the rig and poo poos your valid concerns. On the upside, I believe you said you are located in SOCAL so it's only a matter of time before the right LD comes into your life. In the meantime, the inspection experience you are gaining is priceless- keep the faith! 1 Likes
Re: New ad for 1998 26.5 MB Reply #24 – February 22, 2017, 12:16:00 pm Quote from: HiLola - February 22, 2017, 09:01:40 amMimiBy the time you are done with this quest, you might be qualified to perform RV inspections ;-)The more RVs you look at, the better you will become.We look at a couple dozen used LDs before buying our 1983 22' FL, in 1995.Most were trashed or heavily smoked in.Larry 1 Likes