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kayak hauling
We have a problem I have not seen mentioned anywhere before.   We have two 12 ft fishing kayaks and were wondering if any LD people had experience hauling such items with their LD without a trailer or a toad.   We have hauled ours so far on top of a toad which are easy enough to get them on top of.  Getting them on top of the lazy daze would be a real trick.  There are times we would like to take the kayaks but not have to drag a toad.  We wondered if anyone had tried some mounting hauling method that we might learn about.   
Thanks for any info
jim
2005 Front Lounge

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Reply #1
We carried two full size Necky sea kayaks on the roofs of both our 1983 and 2003 LDs.
Now we have lighter boats but still use the LD's roof, along with the toad's.
New Years day at Morro Bay | The first trip | lw5315us | Flickr
1983 Kayak rack | Flickr
2003 Kayak rack | Flickr

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

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Reply #2
Larry,
One of the first Lazy Daze motorhomes that I took notice of was yours at Morro Bay some years ago. I watched you load your kayaks on top and I wandered over and asked you about your hoist construction. You were gracious and showed me how you built them.

My plan was to build a similar hoist for for our kayaks on my Lance camper.  Instead, we now have a Lazy Daze motorhome!

Thanks!
Harold
2014 27 MB
Towd: Either the Jeep Wrangler or trailer containing the BMW R1200GS and 2 E-bicycles
Happy wife=Happy life

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Reply #3
Thanks much Larry;   Just goes to show that what granny said is still true today;  Where there is a will there is a way :-)
I have one question that comes to mind first on your cranes you use the one side for loading both by swinging one to far side first and second to under crane , is this kinda correct?
jim
2005 Front Lounge

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Reply #4
[quote author=Esther Spradlin date=1487001224 link=msg=168859
I have one question that comes to mind first on your cranes you use the one side for loading both by swinging one to far side first and second to under crane , is this kinda correct?
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The crane's arm, with the winch, can be placed on either side of it's sliding base, enabling the loading or unloading of the boats, first on one side and then the other. When complete, there is a boat on either side of the LD.
Front crane frame and arm | lw5315us | Flickr
Crane on opposite side | lw5315us | Flickr

The rack's two cross bars transfer the weight the boats into the side walls, keeping it off the roof.
The crane can easily pickup a fully loaded boat, weighting over a 150-lbs. When we used to take extended kayak camping trips, the boats were used a storage pods, while traveling to put-in spots.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

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Reply #5
I may not have posted here, I constructed Larry's style roof rack last summer, and am happily traveling with out 17' canoe on top. Larry was a big help answering the few questions I had via PM.

I opted not to use his ingenious boom and crank loading. I get on the roof, and haul the canoe up over the "luggage rack" via the bow painter while my diminutive wife lifts and guide the stern until I can grab the canoe and place it in it cradles. The canoe weighs ~40#.  I clears the AC unit, the swamp cooler and the rear vents with no overhang on the side.

It's a great setup! I tried uploading photos but the bandwidth here won't allow it. It takes on average 8 minutes to take it down, gather equipment and go, and 15 minutes to reverse the process.
Paul
'92 Mid Bath

 

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Reply #7
As posted elsewhere, we're trying to make a paddling decision which will allow two (2) of us to be in the same boat.  We tow a Subaru Forester which has a roof rack.  If we ever do find something,  I'm considering that roof rack plus "something" else to hold whatever we find to paddle.  I'm confident I could (mostly) lift it by myself with a little help from DW.  So is anyone hauling their kayak or other type of boat on the roof of their towed vehicle?

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Reply #8
I saw a vertical rack this year in FL. Nice setup for those short foto molded kayaks or SUPs along with bikes. The owners liked it.
Paul
'92 Mid Bath

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Reply #9
Has anyone tried a vertical rack?
The Original Vertical RV Kayak Racks - Made In The USA. RV KAYAK RACK
From the highest spot, on our LD's roof, to the bottom the rear bumper is less than 9', a little short for a usable kayak.
Now if you upgrade to a DP, you can can a couple feet to the boat's length.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

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Reply #10
So is anyone hauling their kayak or other type of boat on the roof of their towed vehicle?
Here is a photo taken last summer at Mono Lake.
On top of the jeep are a Pygmy Selkie and Eddyline Samba.
Selkie Kayak Kit: Designed for Smaller Paddlers
Kayak: Samba - Eddyline Kayaks and Paddles

This two light weight boats replaced our big, heavy touring kayaks and are light enough to easily car top.
Yakima mounts and crossbars are used along with homemade cradles, with ratchet straps securing the boats.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

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Reply #11
Esther...We carried two Necki Kayaks (14 ft) and a canoe on top of our 2009 Lazy Daze for seven years.  Finally sold the canoe but always carried the kayaks with us.  We used a very simple approach to the challenge.  We had two metal bars placed on the roof with suitable attachments.  To get the kayaks up and down I climbed up our outside ladder to the roof with a rope attached to one of the kayaks.  I balanced a kayak against the back of the rig to make it easy to pull up.  I could do it myself and sometimes my wife would steady it.  Then, I simply pulled up the kayak, grabbed the bow of the boat and pulled it up to rest on the metal platform.  Then I tied it down with apropriate straps.  Just reversed it for unloading.  Never had a problem in the seven years we had the Lazy Daze.  Made all of the difference in our travels as we kayaked or canoed all over the USA.

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Reply #12
thanks everyone for all the great information, in return I would like to tell anyone hauling on the toad what we have done.
we have a grand Cherokee toad and a rack that folds down from sportsman warehouse or dicks sporting or those places all carry the things they mount to the top rack on suvs and you raise the center stand bar and mount a kayak to each side, our two 12 ft ones work great and not to terrible to load and unload our only problem was we are hoping to not have to take a toad everywhere and find a suitable method to haul with just the motorhome. the toad racks are like159.00 .

thanks again
jim
2005 Front Lounge