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RV Storage Garage
I am trying to determine proper dimensions for building a RV garage, so two questions:

1. Are the exterior coach dimensions listed on the LD website for the 2017 models the same for the older models, let's say mid-2000 models?

2. Any feedback from those that either have, or have built, a RV garage would be appreciated. Specifically, I'm trying to determine how much height, width and length beyond the coach dimensions would be adequate? Ideally, there will be enough room on one side for storage of RV related items and a small workbench. I'm told by a contractor that anything higher than 12 ft. sides (not including roof height) requires additional engineering (and costs, of course).

Thanks!
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: Dimensions for RV Garage
Reply #1


1. Are the exterior coach dimensions listed on the LD website for the 2017 models the same for the older models, let's say mid-2000 models?

In 2008 the overall length grew by some 6" so if you use current sizes, you will be slightly on the conservative side.

Ed

Re: Dimensions for RV Garage
Reply #2
Hi

I am interested in hearing some stats and costs too. I would also want to have it wired for 30 amp so the LD can be plugged in if so desired.  We are also considering just a nice carport  (brick and concrete tile roof) with two closed sides to block the sun and heat. Wondering about building costs and the increase in property tax after building it.  Any info appreciated.

Thanks!
Corky 2014 TK
2013 TK

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Reply #3
Two items.

1) if you are limited to a 12' exterior wall the entry door will be a challenge.  You will most likely  not be able to install a 12' high garage door. Not enough height for the header.  A standard 10' door won't be tall enough. Special order sizes/types  are available but pricey. 
Of course, you could simply build a  barn door high enough to squeak under.  Two 5'  wide x 11' tall doors would work.  You will need some serious hinges but there are lightweight building materials available to build the door from.

2) to gain extra interior headroom while maintaining a 12' exterior wall,  for working on the RV  roof,  you can use a scissor truss or a plenum/coffer style truss. Once your span and pitch have been determined, the truss plant can give you a sketch of your options and a price.



Enjoy your project. Wish I had the room to do it now. When I did, a 14' pole barn (easier on the budget) was my choice although we sold the property before it got built.

Ed



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Reply #4
Wondering about building costs and the increase in property tax after building it."

Your taxes and property insurance will both increase based partially, on the construction cost you declared when you pulled the permit.  Permit info is shared with the appropriate taxing agencies.  This does, however, vary from municipality to municipality.
You will want to add the improvements to your homeowners policy just in case.


Ed

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Reply #5
Most important rule of building this type of structure- when done, whatever size you built, it is too small.

My barn is 40Lx36W. 200sq ft of this is devoted to an office/studio/guest room. Also, It houses a the 26.5 LD, with room behind it to store misc junk that accumulates, disappears, reacumulates. I park a car inside always. Leftover space makes a very small workshop with a good array of tools. It had no appreciable affect on our property taxes. We live in rural Washington. I'm Not sure of the impact in your local situation.
Paul
'92 Mid Bath

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Reply #6
"I would also want to have it wired for 30 amp so the LD can be plugged in if so desired."

Just be very sure your electrician understands the difference between standard household 30 A outlets and RV 30 A outlets. I've heard a few horror stories from people who had RV ports or garages installed and ended up with incorrect wiring and/or outlets.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: Dimensions for RV Garage
Reply #7
We have a 2008 24' FD Lazy Daze, and a 1985 Jeep CJ-7 plus kayaks, bikes, and assorted fishing and other gear. It all fits nicely in a 25' X 30' building with 13' sidewalls, a 12' roll up door for the RV and an 8' for the Jeep. It's heavily insulated with 2x6 framing, heated, and drywalled. Cost was ~30k in 2008. I hope this helps. In our climate it was worth it. The coach is like new. In warmer climates you could probably do it for less. Maybe a metal building?

Larry in Monument
 
Larry in Monument, CO
2008 24' FD

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Reply #8
As Andy suggested, it's not uncommon for an electrician unfamiliar with RV requirements to install the wrong type of wiring and/or outlet; the result of an inappropriate installation will go far beyond blown fuses!  :o  I'd make sure that the installer understands exactly what is required and has the know-how and experience to do the job right.

http://www.myrv.us/Imgs/PDF/30-amp%20Service.pdf

RV Electric

Mis-wiring a 120-volt RV outlet with 240-volts | No~Shock~Zone

(The last link is a segment from the 12-part "No Shock Zone" series; essential information for RVers, IMO.)

As ever, YMMV.

Joan
2003 TK has a new home

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Reply #9
Another way, is to future proof your installation and actually install 220v. That is, have a 50 Amp 4 prong RV outlet installed and use an easily obtained 50A to 30A adaptor plug, much like you might need to do on the road at some campgrounds. If it were my installation, I would set it up to look like a campground. 50A and 30A, separate plugs and breakers, might as well throw in a 20A 110v. outlet too. Hopefully the electrician would realize that this wasn't for a dryer and would get the wiring right. I would still check the RV 30A plug for the proper 110V. You might someday have a motorhome with a 50A system, You might have visitors with a 50A system, or (when heck freezes over) Lazy Daze might switch to 50A systems. When the time comes to sell your home, future buyers may want the option of 50A or 30A. RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB

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Reply #10
"Hopefully the electrician would realize that this wasn't for a dryer and would get the wiring right."

I hate to see the word "hopefully" used in conjunction with electrical wiring. I would have said "Make damn sure" the electrician realizes this is for an RV, not a dryer! If he or she doesn't--and apparently many do not--then explain it. This website gives the needed information. From what I've read, the consequences of relying on hope in this situation could range from expensive to dangerous.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: Dimensions for RV Garage
Reply #11
As I have mentioned before, I told our electrician and the builder it was to be a 30A RV receptacle during our electrical review.  Luckily I checked it with a DVM before using.  Sure enough it was wired as a 30A drier receptacle (240 VAC). I rewired it myself.  Be SURE to check it out!!  Also be aware that standard garage door dimensions are for the unfinished opening not the actual final clearance dimensions.

 
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Reply #12
I built our pipe barn at 24 feet wide, 35 feet long, 12 feet tall at the corners and 15 feet tall at the top of the center.  Concrete floor.  30 A receptacles all around (3 on each side and back) and water at each side.  LED bulbs, 5 on each side and 3 across the back at the 12 foot corners.  If I had to do it again, I'd have made it 40 feet long. 24 wide allows a 8'6 fishing boat and the Lazy Daze with 30 inches on each side and about the same between them.

I put shelves 8 feet tall and two feet deep across the back and the kids store their junk between moves and life situations.

I really like the barn and am out there in it nearly every day. If it had a fridge and a bathroom, I might not come into the house at night.

HD
2014 27 MB
Towd: Either the Jeep Wrangler or trailer containing the BMW R1200GS and 2 E-bicycles
Happy wife=Happy life

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Reply #13
I built our pipe barn at 24 feet wide, 35 feet long, 12 feet tall at the corners and 15 feet tall at the top of the center.  Concrete floor.  30 A receptacles all around (3 on each side and back) and water at each side.  LED bulbs, 5 on each side and 3 across the back at the 12 foot corners.  If I had to do it again, I'd have made it 40 feet long. 24 wide allows a 8'6 fishing boat and the Lazy Daze with 30 inches on each side and about the same between them.

I put shelves 8 feet tall and two feet deep across the back and the kids store their junk between moves and life situations.

I really like the barn and am out there in it nearly every day. If it had a fridge and a bathroom, I might not come into the house at night.

HD

 Thanks for your post! Do you have any photos you could share as I'm not familiar with a pipe barn?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

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Reply #14
LD in pipe barn.jpg

Well, I haven't quite figured out how to include a photo with my reply.  Hopefully, I'll figure this out and get you a photo of the pipe barn with the LD inside.
2014 27 MB
Towd: Either the Jeep Wrangler or trailer containing the BMW R1200GS and 2 E-bicycles
Happy wife=Happy life

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One advantage of metal building construction is a much greater ceiling height due to the greater load bearing strength of the steel trusses vs wood, especially when a heavy snow load is an issue.

You might talk to a contractor that specializes in such buildings.

Have fun.

Ed

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Reply #16
I kind of like this design, a Quonset hut, plenty of roof clearance and eye appealing, at least to me.

Jota
96 23.5 FL

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Reply #17
And though not as pretty looking, this one is functional and would be easy to do.
Jota
96 23.5 FL

RV Storage Garage
Reply #18
I'm currently working with a design firm to build a small two stall garage to house a RV. The building will be located on an adjacent empty lot to our home place.  The interior length of the garage is about 36' 6". I'm trying to decide if a 12' overhead door is sufficient. Both of the garage doors will be 12' wide.  Should I build it with 14' side walls and 12' overhead door or 16' side walls and 14' door. Since we live in an older part of town and the building lot is quite small, the building needs to look proptional to the neighboring single story homes. We can't build the garage any longer in length due to zoning restrictions

Thoughts?  My wife is 100% committed to Lazy Daze 31 Twin.  Is a 12' door high enough?  The approach and driveway will be flat - like all the landscape here in the Red River Valley.

Thoughts ...?
Respectfully --  Jay & Shari

2022 — 31’ Twin Bed

Re: RV Storage Garage
Reply #19
We just built one 30'x40' with 14' ceilings and 12x12 doors and that is plenty big enough for our 30' Laze Daze.
2006 50th Anniversary Blue/Gold Edition

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Reply #20
One suggestion if you are using wood trusses.
 In order to give you room to crawl around , or work on, the roof of the RV, have the architecture specify a style of roof truss that is commony used in homes with cathedral ceilings, or a tray/raised center  style truss.
This may allow you to use lower exterior walls thus keeping the overall cost down plus have the building fit better with the neighborhood.
Plus a high pitch like 5/12 and you will have lots of head room.


A steel roof structure is even better because you have lots of headroom.

Have fun.
Ed



Re: RV Storage Garage
Reply #21
Jay, you may find some information that is useful for your project in this thread:

Dimensions for RV Garage
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

Re: RV Storage Garage
Reply #22
Jay,
I built a pipe barn to store our Lazy Daze and another vehicle.  It measures 35 feet long by 24 wide and is 12 feet tall at the shoulders and 15 feet tall at the peak.  Concrete floor.  I wired it all the way around with a high current circuit so I can run the little welder inside and put LED lights along the shoulders and the peak.  Changing bulbs (yes LED bulbs do fail) is easy when standing on the Lazy Daze roof.  Storage buildings and barns quickly fill up with "stuff".  The height is fine, but if I had it to do over again, I'd make it a little longer.

Today's job is to remove the Lazy Daze and use the empty bay to work on another vehicle in the cool interior.  I really love the ability to store things as well as work on them out of the elements.  Shady on the hot days and dry when it is wet outside.  If I had cooking facilities and a bathroom, I might never come into the house.  You are going to love your garage!

HD
2014 27 MB
Towd: Either the Jeep Wrangler or trailer containing the BMW R1200GS and 2 E-bicycles
Happy wife=Happy life

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Jay, our barn has an RV bay that is 40x12, 18’ walls, with a 12’ door.  It has been long and tall enough for our Bigfoot camper on the truck, a 34’ trailer, and now our 27’ LD with the John Deere parked in front of it.

When I work on a big project I pull out the RV and expand my shop.  There is an attached guest apartment, which we use often.

Next time I will consider a steel building, insulation, lights along the top of the walls, radiant floor heat. And bigger. A shop or shed is never big enough.
Paul
'92 Mid Bath

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Jay, our barn has an RV bay that is 40x12, 18’ walls, with a 12’ door.  It has been long and tall enough for our Bigfoot camper on the truck, a 34’ trailer, and now our 27’ LD with the John Deere parked in front of it.

You're breaking my heart Paul.  That kind of RV storage isn't even on our wish-list for the next life.   I've tried to find inside storage but they're rare and expensive.  The best we've been able to do is 34' covered with protection on 3 sides for our 27'.  The front of the LD gets a bit of early morning sun and points away from prevailing wind and storms.  Inside storage ... oh my!!