Outside temperture October 15, 2016, 09:59:45 am Been looking for a replacement of the factory clock. I have two issues (ok only two issues with the clock problem). One - I'd like a clock that changes time automatically (or reasonably automatically) depending on location. Two - more or less accurate outside and inside temp. Three - (ok I lied) DW would like to see outside temp while driving.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #1 – October 27, 2016, 06:26:22 pm Colddog -- Not exactly a direct answer, but we use our iPhones to keep time while passing through different time zones, and to monitor regional temps. When stopped and set up, we have a common Wal-Mart indoor/outdoor temp sensor with clock that we use. I am a nut about outside temp, and monitor it frequently, particularly in high elevations and when it is snowing. We place the sensor on the front running board, out of direct sun. We use to set it on top of the rear dual tire, but of course we forgot that it was there and drove over it. While we are on the subject, I would also take any recommendations on a cheap, portable, and relatively reliable anemometer. 1 Likes
Re: Outside temperture Reply #2 – October 27, 2016, 09:52:23 pm I have removed the batteries from the factory clock and also just use my iPhone for outside temp. For indoor temp I have a indoor/outdoor thermometer which tracks indoors and inside the refrigerator. I have little need for clocks now that I am retired. If I need to wake at a unnatural hour the wife or my iPhone alarms work without fail. John (camping again) DaCremao7 MidBath the color of GO. That is green by the way.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #3 – October 27, 2016, 10:07:55 pm Quote from: John DaCrema - October 27, 2016, 09:52:23 pm "...If I need to wake at a unnatural hour the wife or my iPhone alarms work without fail......John (camping again) DaCremao7 MidBath the color of GO. That is green by the way..."I won't remember till it's too late to post, but I don't recall the factory clock changing as we travel into Utah although my iPhone does (I think...yikes).Still watching the time for at least two more years, although it's good to know when the local theatre starts the upcoming feature.By the way, it's good to hear your on the road again, John.Kent 1 Likes
Re: Outside temperture Reply #4 – October 28, 2016, 10:36:11 am I won't remember till it's too late to post, but I don't recall the factory clock changing as we travel into Utah although my iPhone does (I think...yikes).This is one of my major concerns about the factory clock. It's an atomic clock but it only tacks time based on the time zone you manually set. <smile> yes I know if this is the only thing that bothers me then I need a 'real' life - I agree.DW wants a method to check the outside temp as we drive. She gets very comfy as copilot. She is not a fan of getting up then walking back just to check the outside temp. I brought a paste on fish tank thermometer. My plan is to put it on the windshield. I'm sure it will not be accurate but I'm thinking it would put us in the ballpark. We'll see how this works.Thank you all for the replies.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #5 – October 28, 2016, 11:22:27 am If you have a ScanGauge or equivalent, it can be set to read 'intake temperature', which should be the outside temperature as long as you aren't climbing a hill or sitting in rush hour traffic.Steve 2 Likes
Re: Outside temperture Reply #6 – October 28, 2016, 12:37:50 pm Going to chime in here, just for the heck of it!I've got temp senders up the kazoo... fridge, freezer, inside, outside, etc. The location of the outside sender is adequate only for ambient air conditions. It is held in place on the upper surface of the propane tank with heavy duty velcro. The caveat is that it's only accurate if the engine has been shut down for an hour or more due to the fact that engine heat flows back around that tank and gives a false reading on the thermometer.
Follow-ups Roof Storage Re: Outside temperture Reply #7 – October 28, 2016, 01:11:40 pm "If you have a ScanGauge or equivalent, it can be set to read 'intake temperature'..."I've tried that, but in my experience, intake temperature on my Ford V10 is always at least ten degrees F. warmer than ambient temperature, so that's not a useful way to gauge outside temperature.Unfortunately, there really is no perfect place for an outside temperature sender. I tried mounting to the underside of the overcab, where it's shaded but exposed to ambient air, but after driving in rain killed two sensors in a row, I gave up on that idea. Mounting under the spare cover is OK except when the sun is shining on the rear of the rig, when the indicated temperature skyrockets by twenty degrees or more. There's not much airflow in that compartment, so heat builds up.The propane compartment offers a shady area with plenty of ambient airflow... but as Steve noted, when you've been driving, the engine and exhaust system spread a blanket of hot air under the rig, so a thermometer mounted in that location will read way too high for at least an hour after you stop. And even when you're parked for long periods, if there's sun on that side of the rig, it will heat the ground under the rig and yield unrealistically high readings at certain times of day.I wish I had a good answer, but I have yet to come up with one.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #8 – October 28, 2016, 01:32:45 pm Low tech method (and this is useful ONLY when stopped) - hang a regular thermometer on a shoestring from the outside mirror. This has worked on both a 1985 TK and a 2005 RB! ;-> Virtual hugs, Judie•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•
Re: Outside temperture Reply #9 – October 29, 2016, 06:22:16 pm "I would also take any recommendations on a cheap, portable, and relatively reliable anemometer."For what it's worth, I use this little anemometer that plugs into my iPad. (It also works with most iPhones except the new version 7 ones.) It's small, simple, and reasonably priced. I have no way to calibrate it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it seems to work well when used in combination with the company's free iOS app. As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #10 – October 30, 2016, 11:12:18 am Quote from: Andy Baird - October 29, 2016, 06:22:16 pm"I would also take any recommendations on a cheap, portable, and relatively reliable anemometer."For what it's worth, I use this little anemometer that plugs into my iPad. (It also works with most iPhones except the new version 7 ones.) It's small, simple, and reasonably priced. I have no way to calibrate it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it seems to work well when used in combination with the company's free iOS app.Andy, is there a gadget, device or accessory that you don't own? <grin>Chris 1 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #11 – October 30, 2016, 11:24:44 am Quote from: Andy Baird - October 29, 2016, 06:22:16 pm"...For what it's worth, I use this little anemometer that plugs into my iPad..."Andy,From the looks of this device, it could also signal "The Mothership". ET eat your heart out.Kent 1 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #12 – October 30, 2016, 07:16:08 pm Quote from: Judie Ashford - October 28, 2016, 01:32:45 pmLow tech method (and this is useful ONLY when stopped) Actually this would work even when moving. I'm thinking maybe a transmitter on or near outside the front bumper. Airplanes have been doing something similar for years.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #13 – October 30, 2016, 08:44:31 pm eBay to the rescue.Check out the weather transmitters that send outdoor temps via wireless transmitter to the indoors.Here's a screen shot of one available as I type.Kent
Re: Outside temperture Reply #14 – October 31, 2016, 01:47:27 am The perfect location for a remote temperature sensor doesn't exist on a LD. Each location has issues.While moving, ours is stored in one the cab's console's cup holder. Once parked, it gets placed under a wiper blade or on one of the cab's running boards, depending on which location isn't exposed to the sun.Using the ScanGauge, after the engine's cooled overnight or when cruising at 45MPH or higher, the 'intake air' temp should be very close to the ambient temperature. If it isn't, the engine's intake air temperature sensor may be bad.Larry
Re: Outside temperture Reply #15 – October 31, 2016, 08:05:05 pm I bought a new clock w/indoor and outdoor temperatures at Mothership last year. It was cheap - I think about $45. Vince showed me where they locate the outside sensor and how to build the case (out of PVC pipe). I took pictures and built the case and installed it - works fine. I don't know if I can figure out how to add pictures to post but if you'll contact me I can send them to you and talk you thru it.In my RK, I decided to leave the existing clock in place for time up front and mounted the new clock in the kitchen - where we spend most of our time.Bob'01 RK360-901-3060
Re: Outside temperture Reply #16 – October 31, 2016, 08:54:55 pm "Vince showed me where they locate the outside sensor"And that was...?
Re: Outside temperture Reply #17 – October 31, 2016, 10:24:17 pm Quote from: Andy Baird - October 31, 2016, 08:54:55 pm"Vince showed me where they locate the outside sensor"And that was...?Right here...Below the rear left bumper. The PVC pipe with the nut is for the batteries and I believe the angled PVC is the sensor.It's dark outside and the creepy crawlers are out.Happy Halloween.Kent
Re: Outside temperture Reply #18 – November 01, 2016, 12:39:13 pm I use this small anemometer, when on the water, to determine wind speed and temp.Amazon.com: Ambient Weather WM-2 Handheld Weather Meter w/ Windspeed,...Larry As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #19 – November 01, 2016, 09:33:26 pm Good tip, Larry! It makes more sense to buy that one for $30 than the one I have for $40.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #20 – November 02, 2016, 12:48:13 pm Vince showed me on a rig at Mothership that they mount the sensor housing in front of the rear bumper on the left side. I took pictures but don't know how to upload them to this forum. I'll have to learn how. But if you'll send me your email address I can email the pictures to you but will probably still have to talk you thru it because the location picture is hard to decipher As far as location sensitivity, I don't think you find a perfect place because our "houses" move and always in different locations, directions, etc. I note that with the existing location, it reads high when I'm on the road driving over a hot highway. Otherwise, it seems to work pretty well.Bob, '01 RK360-901-3060
Re: Outside temperture Reply #21 – November 02, 2016, 01:13:55 pm OK, I'm attempting to attach my first pictures on this forum. I hope there are 2 pictures attached. 5693.jpg shoes the housing sitting on the floor. It is made of 1.5" PVC. I just sized mine to fit the sensor. I didn't ask Vince about how he holds the sensor inside the pipe but I decided to use a little foam rubber at the bottom to keep it from rattling but tried not to block air flow to sensor.Picture 5693.jpg shows the sensor in place in a Lazy Daze at Mothership. I am shooting up lying on the floor on the left side under the rear bumper. I think this will make sense if you crawl under there. Note the Lazy Daze mode of using lots of sealant - both sides of lag screw penetrations of the housing. You can see 2 places where they covered, with sealant, the lag screws they used to attach the housing to the rig. I found dealing with the messy sealant to be the most difficult part of installing the housing. Think thru how you're going to apply the sealant, protect yourself and clean up before you start.Let me know if you have any questions.Bob, '01 RK
Re: Outside temperture Reply #22 – November 02, 2016, 01:15:56 pm Oops, I see I referenced the wrong picture in the 1st paragraph. It should be 5694.jpg showing the housing on the "floor". It is actually sitting on top of the bumper of the rig.
Re: Outside temperture Reply #23 – November 02, 2016, 06:24:38 pm Quote from: Bob Elliott - November 02, 2016, 01:15:56 pmOops, I see I referenced the wrong picture in the 1st paragraph. It should be 5694.jpg showing the housing on the "floor". It is actually sitting on top of the bumper of the rig.Now that I see what the Mothership has done, there's probably no reason one couldn't accomplish the same thing with a temp sensor sealed in PVC and somehow glued/attached someplace in the propane tank cavity.Chris
Re: Outside temperture Reply #24 – November 02, 2016, 06:33:20 pm "...in the propane tank cavity."ChrisRefer to my message #6. The propane tank area gets a lot of engine heat and any sensor mounted there will show higher than ambient temperatures until the engine has a chance to cool off.
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