Eternabond September 10, 2015, 11:04:01 am Yahoo Message Number: 155507I imagine there is a lot of info on this topic, but I can't find what I'm looking for.So, for those of you who have applied Eternabond to roof seams, do you recommend 4" or 6"? Do I need the roller that is sold in the Eternabond site for $28? Do I need to caulk any needed spots on the seams first? Or do I tape right over them? Can I use rubbing alcohol to clean it first? Thanks, Tanya
Re: Eternabond Reply #1 – September 10, 2015, 11:41:38 am Yahoo Message Number: 155509We used 6 inch and bought a wallpaper seem roller at hardware store.Tom and Kristen
Re: Eternabond Reply #2 – September 10, 2015, 12:06:41 pm Yahoo Message Number: 155516Tanya Try searching my user name and "Eternabond". I have post a dozen or more article on how do use it, sealing a few dozen roofs with teach you everything you need to know. The 4" tape is OK for beginners, the 6" wide tape is much more difficult to handle. Make sure to have extra tape, there is a learning curve to using it.A wall paper roller is OK, I use a veneer roller. The surface needs to be very clean. I scrub the door seams with soap and water and then clean again with acetone or lacquer thinner. I use a organic filter mask to prevent breathing of the fumes.Larry
Re: Eternabond Reply #3 – September 10, 2015, 01:10:10 pm Yahoo Message Number: 155524I did mine a couple of years ago using the 4". It was sufficient, but if I were doing it again, I'd go with 6". Here are pictures and notes of my job. As you'll see, I used some 3M 5200 sealant over the cracks and exposed screwheads before applying the E-bond.I used an old small wooden wall-paper roller - it worked fine.Good luck with your project!WxToad www.wxtoad.com www.ultimatecampgrounds.comPosted by: teblakey Date: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:04 am ((PDT))I imagine there is a lot of info on this topic, but I can't find what I'm looking for. So, for those of you who have applied Eternabond to roof seams, do you recommend 4" or 6"? Do I need the roller that is sold in the Eternabond site for $28? Do I need to caulk any needed spots on the seams first? Or do I tape right over them? Can I use rubbing alcohol to clean it first? Thanks, Tanya
Re: Eternabond Reply #4 – September 10, 2015, 01:29:05 pm Yahoo Message Number: 155526I used the 6 inch tape. I read all Larry published, then looked at what others did as well and watched a few videos just for extra. The roof seams on my 2007 MB were in good shape but the age was starting to show. I washed with soap and then acetone. I was not careful enough with the acetone and careful inspection of the paint work on either side shows evidence of few drips (the paint is lighter where the drip landed). The help of a friend made the work go much quicker. One would pull the backing of a foot or so of tape and keep it straight and stretched while the other would press it in place and hit it with the roller.The advantage of the 6 inch tape is it is much easier to cover the existing seam with some overlap. The disadvantage of the 6 inch tape is that it is harder to keep stretched and straight. Also on drivers side of a mid bath there is a lot of trimming needed with the wider tape.I did two sides and then the front seam. Working from the back to the front for each side seam. I also did the passengers side first because it was a straight run with no vents or other roof structures to work around. That let me build my confidence some.https://dac.smugmug.com/Cars/Individual-cars/Lazy-Daze-improvements-gadgets/Sealing-the-LD/
Re: Eternabond Reply #5 – September 10, 2015, 03:30:48 pm Yahoo Message Number: 155528Anyone know anything about Sticknbond tape? Appears to be manufactured by Eternabond for Leisure Time Marking a big distributor of RV products http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=sticknbond&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=43819883249&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7607512263725861430&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_4juegmhj0f_e http://www.leisuretimemarketing.com/#!our-products/c1bvuI see they also have 6x6 patch if you don't need a whole roll. As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Eternabond Reply #6 – September 10, 2015, 05:02:20 pm Yahoo Message Number: 155538I don't want to stir things up but Vince at the Lazy Daze factory strongly advises against using eternabond. If you have a newer rig you might want to check before you apply it.
Re: Eternabond Reply #7 – September 10, 2015, 05:37:22 pm Yahoo Message Number: 155541I am pretty sure that a big reason the factory "strongly advises against using Eternabond" is that stuff is *very difficult* to remove if/when an owner brings their rig into the factory for any work on the roof or anything else that was "Eternabonded". Done properly, i.e., *thoroughly* cleaning and prepping all surfaces to be sealed and *carefully* applying and pressing down the tape, an Eternabond job can last for a long time. There is very little room for do-overs with E-bond; diligent prep and careful application are essential.Joan
Re: Eternabond Reply #8 – October 10, 2016, 06:34:54 am I finally did the roof!! Only took a year to get around to it. The job wasn't nearly as bad as I'd made it in my head. For those that have done this job I have Two questions: 1. The directions say to caulk the front edge of the Eternabond to protect against wind and the elements. Did you guys do this? Should I use the 5200 marine sealant?2. Did you do all the way around the refrigerator vents and other vents?Thanks,Tanya
Re: Eternabond Reply #9 – October 10, 2016, 01:22:41 pm I used 4", it covered, barely. I also bought their roller. It made the job quite a bit easier, because it is so heavy. I have used wallpaper roller, home made roller, cans. The Eternabond roller made that part of the job ridiculously easy.
Re: Eternabond Reply #10 – October 10, 2016, 05:48:29 pm Quote from: Tanya B - October 10, 2016, 06:34:54 amI finally did the roof!! Only took a year to get around to it. The job wasn't nearly as bad as I'd made it in my head. For those that have done this job I have Two questions: 1. The directions say to caulk the front edge of the Eternabond to protect against wind and the elements. Did you guys do this? Should I use the 5200 marine sealant?2. Did you do all the way around the refrigerator vents and other vents?Thanks,TanyaHopefully Larry will chime in as I think he was the one who discussed the caulking. I think you would want to use a regular polyurethane caulk. I used it at the front where I laid down three pieces. I put a bead at the leading edge of the first strip to prevent lifting due to wind. I also put a bit anywhere it seemed possible to lift but that wasn't a great deal. I didn't go all the way round vents because I assumed it would any possible future replacement of those vents, if necessary, all the more difficult.Jim
Re: Eternabond Reply #11 – October 10, 2016, 07:47:40 pm Quote from: Jim & Gayle - October 10, 2016, 05:48:29 pmI think you would want to use a regular polyurethane caulk. I used it at the front where I laid down three pieces. I put a bead at the leading edge of the first strip to prevent lifting due to wind. I also put a bit anywhere it seemed possible to lift but that wasn't a great deal. I didn't go all the way round vents because I assumed it would any possible future replacement of those vents, if necessary, all the more difficult.That's mostly what I do, using 3M 5200 to seal the ends. I don't use Eternabond on the vents, it doesn't stick and is a waste of material. If the Factory coating of sealant, on the vents, is getting thin, top coating with 5200 or a Dicor product is suggested.Amazon.com: Dicor 501LSW-1 Self-Leveling Lap Sealant, 4 Pack: AutomotiveThe actual seal is between the roof and the vent, something that cannot be renewed without destroying the vent. The sealant top coating protects the vent's exposed plastic mounting flanges from sun damage.For the longest life, you should have vent covers over each 14"X 14" roof vent, to provide all-weather ventilation and to protect the exposed plastic .Larry 2 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Eternabond Reply #12 – October 10, 2016, 08:30:11 pm Larry, I have had vent covers from the beginning. Under some of the covers on the sealant you get some black grime build up. What is the most effective way of cleaning that off without having to use soap, water and a hose to rinse off and not cause damage to the sealant? Or is it just soap and water?Jim
Re: Eternabond Reply #13 – October 10, 2016, 11:10:35 pm Quote from: Jim & Gayle - October 10, 2016, 08:30:11 pmUnder some of the covers on the sealant you get some black grime build up. What is the most effective way of cleaning that off without having to use soap, water and a hose to rinse off and not cause damage to the sealant? Or is it just soap and water?JimSoap and water, used with a kitchen scrub pad, should take most of it off. The black stuff is just the oxidized stuff that falls from the sky.If top coating, and the surface is still dirty, wiping it with lacquer thinner or acetone will give better adhesion. Use appropriate safety gear and please don't fall off.Larry 1 Likes
Re: Eternabond Reply #14 – October 11, 2016, 10:53:18 am Quote from: Jim & Gayle - October 10, 2016, 08:30:11 pmLarry, I have had vent covers from the beginning. Under some of the covers on the sealant you get some black grime build up. What is the most effective way of cleaning that off without having to use soap, water and a hose to rinse off and not cause damage to the sealant? Or is it just soap and water?Jim Living on the 'wet' side of Oregon we get lots of black grime build up. It builds up under the solar panels, TV antenna , and vent covers. I just use a soft brush or wash rag to clean and remove it. I wash of the roof about three, four times a year. 1 Likes
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