iPhone Storage Freedom September 04, 2016, 11:30:44 am Hi folks,Ok so this is a quick and easy if you use Google Earth on your iPhone. I use it a ton and often while zooming around the planet, the app will tell me that I am out of storage space.I would then delete a bunch of "stuff". You know...unused apps, photos that I have already uploaded to my lap top...things like that.Today I was "managing" my storage on my 16 gig iPhone 5C and noticed that Google Earth was sucking up over 1/2 a gig. I checked the App Store and found it only required about 40 MB. So...I deleted the app and reinstalled it. That move freed up over 500 MB of space. Yippee!Apparently the app stores your adventures around the globe. Why? I have no idea.Back to taking picks of my pets.Kent 3 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #1 – September 04, 2016, 03:17:27 pm LOVE the furbaby pix--how did you get the ears to do that in #3 (industrial strength hair gel??)
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #2 – September 04, 2016, 04:10:55 pm Quote from: Lynne Broyles-Greenwood - September 04, 2016, 03:17:27 pm"... furbaby"..."industrial strength hair gel??..."Lynne,Funny. That's Muppet our blind "Morky". That's pretty much a normal look for her. When we adopted her, we thought she was both blind and mute until a week later she "found" her voice. Oh, my! That little girl can shout. Sweetest little thing, although she certainly knows how to keep the others in line. Where "storage" is concerned, there are just some things I can't delete. Here she is on her first day with her new family.Kent 3 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #3 – September 04, 2016, 09:09:39 pm Ok so I got back on Google Earth for a few seconds just now and within seconds I was up from 40 MB to 97. MB.Hold it one MB I thought. Opened the menu on the app and there it was...CLEAR CACHE. "Click"...done. That's a relief. Simple as that. You can actually send images directly to your camera roll. Wow!Who knew?Kent
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #4 – September 04, 2016, 10:47:01 pm Your pets are cute! Love the little gray cat🐾
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #5 – September 05, 2016, 12:15:53 am Sooty is special in so many ways. Born as a stray out back he has become a very important part of the family. He absolutely loves the dogs. As an outdoor pet (if cats can be pets being the independent spirits that they are), he greets you in the morning and welcomes you home at night. Can't imagine a day without him.Here's a shot of him in a more fierce moment.Kent 4 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #6 – September 05, 2016, 01:09:08 am Here's a picture of two firballs Spaghetti (bk cat belongs to housemate) and Meatball (mine) enjoying a spot of sun. Cynthia 4 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #7 – September 05, 2016, 01:32:08 am Cynthia,Purr-fect...Great names-never met a Cat-talian I didn't like.Kent 2 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #8 – September 05, 2016, 10:27:09 am Kent,May I suggest google Photos. As you take the images they can be uploaded to the 'cloud.' You can then remove them from your iPhone freeing up space for more photos. BTW if you have a gmail account you already have Google Photos - just need to d/l the app and enable it.My two fav boys -- Syman and Dylan. 4 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #9 – September 05, 2016, 10:46:47 am Quote from: colddog - September 05, 2016, 10:27:09 amKent,May I suggest google Photos. As you take the images they can be uploaded to the 'cloud.' You can then remove them from your iPhone freeing up space for more photos. BTW if you have a gmail account you already have Google Photos - just need to d/l the app and enable it.My two fav boys -- Syman and Dylan.Thanks for the suggestion, Glen. This thread pushed me to look at storage on my iPhone, and I'm almost at the limit and photos are the space hog. Google Photos looks like a winner. I found this link with some good tips about GP features: 18 Things You May Not Have Known Google Photos Can DoChris
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #10 – September 05, 2016, 10:49:52 am Colddog,Adore your two companions. The cloud kinda scares me. I'm not sure what it is about it the that I feel uncomfortable with. Maybe it's the thought of having my "stuff" out there, somewhere, that I can't control. Just me, I'm sure. One day, perhaps.So far, though, my lap top seems to work well as a storage medium. Although for "real" photos taken with the Nikon in RAW, things pile up quite quickly (external storage-what's that?)Hey, I'm still young. There are still plenty of tricks I can learn. Thanks for the tip.Kent 1 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #11 – September 05, 2016, 11:47:09 am Kent said:"The cloud kinda scares me. I'm not sure what it is about it the that I feel uncomfortable with. Maybe it's the thought of having my "stuff" out there, somewhere, that I can't control. Just me, I'm sure. One day, perhaps." ******************************** Having had our main credit card compromised twice in the last three months, it seems to me to be prudent to keep as much of one's personal data as possible out of the cloud. If one's device is connected, there is probably access to more than just photographs that are available in said cloud. Do you have any financial data on your phone, or passwords?I am not conversant with the limitations and costs of cloud storage, but there is a monthly charge over some small allowed amount, correct? It would seem to me that for ordinary personal use, it would be prudent to purchase outright (no monthly fees and no connection vulnerability) a large-capacity hard drive where you can offload your excess photos to your heart's content and never worry about if you can find an Internet connection for up/downloading photos. You can get at them any time you wish.Mind you, I have not tried this because I have 43 free GB's on my phone even with storing over five years' worth of photos (5435 of 'em for 12.74 GB) on there. I also have 482 apps (ridiculous amount) that take up 30 GB, and 23 GB of other documents. In looking at prices, it seems that even a 2 TB drive is less than $100. at Amazon. A great way to squelch those monthly fees, not to need an Internet connection, have everything securely at hand, AND to support the good folks who bring us this venue!Apart from just storing photos, a back-up drive could really save your bacon. It has mine. Using a back-up program at the end of each day that your computer is used can go a long way to solving lost information situations. There are probably plenty of other options, but we use Super Duper, which backs up my entire computer every night, and provides a bootable disk in case there is a need. It takes about five minutes to verify the hard disk in my computer and the partition in the back-up disk, and then about 30 minutes or so to do the back up itself. It will do this all by itself and shut your computer down when it is finished. In the morning, everything is fresh and ready to go.While I am at it, I would like to throw in a plug for actually backing up your computer on a regular basis. These little drives are great for this if you are traveling and don't have access to your ordinary system at home. My computer's hard drive is only 500 GB, so two small 750 GB drives allow me to leapfrog back up my computer every night. Why leapfrog? If something goes wrong with a drive (and they are vulnerable to such), hopefully the other drive will be intact, so I should never lose more than one day's activity. It gives me peace of mind, and goodness knows . . . I need it! ;-> Virtual hugs, Judie 1 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #12 – September 05, 2016, 01:11:13 pm I'll second everything Judie said. Reading the tech industry trade press, hardly a day goes by without some cloud-based service or storage going down. (As a friend says, "The thing about clouds is that sooner or later, they always blow away.") I prefer not to put all my eggs in somebody else's basket, so I follow Judie's procedure.
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #13 – September 05, 2016, 02:07:41 pm COPY THAT.As well as on board storage & external storage, I generally have two DVD's, or at a minimum CD's, backing up my photography. If I'm feeling extravagant, I keep the original Compact Flash card or memory cards intact. This big guy can use all the support he can get.Kent
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #14 – September 05, 2016, 02:37:53 pm Kent said: "If I'm feeling extravagant, I keep the original Compact Flash card or memorycards intact. "We do that, too. They just get labeled and tossed into a box. Never have had to access one, but there are surprisingly few physical cards needed, so it is a cheap way to keep your originals. Just keep your eye on changing technology! A lot of my "pre-turn-of-the-century" digital snaps were on large-sized cards ( from my Nikon 990) and backed up onto cartridges that fit into machinery that we no longer have. Multi-slot card readers are available, but I never can find either of mine.A great benefit, though, over the large box of Koda- and Ektachrome slides and the mountains of printed snapshots of our trips that languish in their own housing next to the fireplace in my living room! What has everyone done with all of the expensive film camera equipment SX-70, anyone? Virtual hugs, Judie
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #15 – September 05, 2016, 03:02:24 pm Quote from: Judie Ashford - September 05, 2016, 02:37:53 pmWhat has everyone done with all of the expensive film camera equipment SX-70, anyone?Sigh. I just take my 60s-era Canon FT QL and its four fabulous lenses out of their containers and gaze wistfully. None of my digitals has ever matched the photo quality I got with that outfit. A lot easier and cheaper these days though. -- Jon
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #16 – September 05, 2016, 03:44:17 pm Quote from: Jon & Loni - September 05, 2016, 03:02:24 pmQuote from: Judie Ashford - September 05, 2016, 02:37:53 pm"...What has everyone done with all of the expensive film camera equipment SX-70, anyone?...""...None of my digitals has ever matched the photo quality I got with that outfit. A lot easier... -- Jon"My DW asked what I was going to do with all my "old" rolls of 35mm film I have stored in the fridge at home. My reply..."Hey! Hands off my iCloud."The best thing about old school photography was the simplicity of the shoot. Film in...focus...meter...refocus...check shutter speed...refocus...take shot....wait for proofs... Oh the simple pleasures of old school technology. Honestly though, today's photography goes beyond the instant gratification of the digital world. I seldom come back with more than a couple of "savers". So I have No Regerts of deleting the stuff that would otherwise cost money to develop on film.Quality of the shoot? I suppose it all depends on your film gear. I am pleased, however, with the 36 megapixel sensor in my Nikon. Back in the day I would never have had the time or money to get the shots that I get today. But that's just me.Here are a few of my fav's. Perfect? Maybe not, but they store easily edit just the same and I can share them digitally.Kent 4 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #17 – September 05, 2016, 08:24:36 pm I am a bit of a hack, but I think digital has made me a better photographer. I get to explore different settings and then learn what I did. I was never very good of keeping a log with the lens and exposure info for a role of film. With digital the info is stored in the meta data. You can even hang a gps and to give coordinates and altitude info for the shot as well (Nikon GP-1, I'm sure Cannon has something similar). I keep the raw files on my computer's hard drive, and have that backed up on a second drive once an hour - because I am lazy. The backup drive just fills up and wrights over the files with the new. That way I do not have to remember to back up anything.My problem is the nut behind the viewfinder... 3 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #18 – September 05, 2016, 11:58:36 pm Quote from: John DaCrema - September 05, 2016, 08:24:36 pm"...My problem is the nut behind the viewfinder..."John,You should be proud. What with both a gifted photographer AND a mechanic in the family. It just doesn't get any better than that. All my kids want to do is bark at the mail carrier. Kent 1 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #19 – September 06, 2016, 10:48:54 am Quote from: Judie Ashford - September 05, 2016, 11:47:09 amKent said:"The cloud kinda scares me. I'm not sure what it is about it the that I feel uncomfortable with. Maybe it's the thought of having my "stuff" out there, somewhere, that I can't control. Just me, I'm sure. One day, perhaps." ******************************** Having had our main credit card compromised twice in the last three months, it seems to me to be prudent to keep as much of one's personal data as possible out of the cloud. If one's device is connected, there is probably access to more than just photographs that are available in said cloud. Do you have any financial data on your phone, or passwords?If I may humbly point out when you use your credit card you trust the vendor will take care of your personal data. There are a host of good solutions to this problem. Technology like Apple Pay and Android Pay solve this problem. Nothing -no personal data ie credit card number and your name is left with the vendor. Problem is vendors like your personal data ie Walmart, Safeway, Target etc. With most all transactions we left behind mountains of personal data ie banks, cable companies, phone companies, medical insurance, and the like. Verizon puts a super cookie on your phone to follow all your internet use. This is not a new thing. All those groups collect and sell this information about you to interested parties. What is new is the collection storage not the collection itself. Getting back to Google Photos - you don't leave behind a credit card or any 'real' personal information to get a Google account. Yes they do 'track' you but you are carrying cell phone that knows were you are at all time you have it turned on. Google has a google dashboard. this allows you to view, correct and download your data. Is it prefect - no but its better then alot of other companies that collect your data.I understand the distrust of the 'cloud'. I get it. I've worked (now very happily retired) for a large international company in IT security. Sadly we live in a world were out personal information is worth money. And we all know there are folks that like to make money.
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #20 – September 06, 2016, 11:36:59 am Oh, I totally agree with this premise, colddog. I am not phobic about using the net for financial transactions, just trying to limit the possibilities of compromise. Hopefully Apple Pay will come to my computer directly very soon.My comments about using one's own equipment for backing up photos was more for convenience purposes, and for not needing to find/use/rent that storage space in anyone's "cloud", and to not need to find/pay for an Internet connection to save/access one's own photos. I want to be able to access my photos at my own convenience, not just when there is a suitable Internet signal available.Since I don't use the cloud for photo-storing needs, I may be all wet about how it works, but from what I can glean from reading, it would seem that if one is connected to this "service", then every time you take a photo (whether you want to keep it or not), it is transmitted to the "picture cloud" of your choice, and your Internet connection account is charged for this transfer.I can see a couple of real downsides to this, even disregarding the cost of all this transferring.1) If you have more than one device, then are all your photos (even the unwanted ones) "available" on each device immediately? If so, then you will need to go to each device to delete any unwanted photos. Or can one simply delete directly in the cloud, and they automagically disappear from each device? If it can be done directly in the cloud, then something must be done via a paid connection to get rid of unwanted photos.2) If this transfer process is done automatically, then are you charged "air time" for this transfer? I read somewhere that an RV'ing couple could not figure out why they kept going over their allowed data limit when they were just not using their computer/pads that often or heavily. Turns out that whole folders of photos were being uploaded to the cloud in the background, and they were unaware of this. I do not know the mechanism by which this was happening, so it may have been something that they did inadvertently, but the data was still consumed at an astounding rate, apparently.3) If storage space to keep your photos/information is at a premium, is it really practical to have a complete set of the same photos on each device? Are all of the same photos available to you on each of your electronic devices? If so, that would seem to limit the storage volume possibilities. I can see where this would be convenient for someone with a huge-capacity memory device, but from what I read, many are bumping up against the limitations of the device quite often. Virtual hugs, Judie •~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•Quote from: colddog - September 06, 2016, 10:48:54 amIf I may humbly point out when you use your credit card you trust the vendor will take care of your personal data. There are a host of good solutions to this problem. Technology like Apple Pay and Android Pay solve this problem. Nothing -no personal data ie credit card number and your name is left with the vendor. Problem is vendors like your personal data ie Walmart, Safeway, Target etc. With most all transactions we left behind mountains of personal data ie banks, cable companies, phone companies, medical insurance, and the like. Verizon puts a super cookie on your phone to follow all your internet use. This is not a new thing. All those groups collect and sell this information about you to interested parties. What is new is the collection storage not the collection itself. . . . .
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #21 – September 07, 2016, 11:04:04 am Judie, i am no professional, but I always go to cellular settings and turn off the use of cellular data for applications, including camera and photos, that I don't want to use my limited data when I am running low. I then let all that photo backing up, and everything else occur when I find a decent wifi connection. Of course that means I am "at risk" of losing photos taken on my phone in between. When I use my camera the backup work flow is completely different, and more paranoid, involving the usual laptop drive, duplicate remote hard drives, SD cards and off site storage. Why use the cloud at all? Convenience is the only reason. I can access a low resolution version of all the photos I have taken in the digital age on my phone, laptop or iPad, and load up the full res version on demand from the cloud. Since I travel sans laptop this works out well. Cost for this is $2.99 per month, on iCloud. I wonder how much this will matter or even work when I sit with my family to look at memories in 30 years like I do now with my mother?
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #22 – September 07, 2016, 12:13:13 pm Lots of good points, Paul. I am very fortunate to have unlimited data (grandfathered in on Verizon), so data use is not a concern. Truth is, I am almost always home using the house WiFi, so my usage is usually less than a GB per month. I'm sure Verizon loves that! When/If I am lucky enough to be on the road, that changes, but at least data restrictions will not be part of my worries. Ditto the iPhone capacity. I have 43 GB free on there, even with my overabundance of unused apps and books I seldom look at. I got my first iPhone in February of 2011, and almost every photo I have ever taken with that iPhone 4, and the subsequent model, a 6+ that takes larger-sized photos, is still on the phone for perusal. Seems like I am always snapping at something, but maybe I take fewer than the average number - no pets or grandchildren.I regularly back up the phone photos to my hard drive (well, now and then, anyway!), so they are backed up onto the regular drives that take care of my computer.So . . . all that said, I am really just talking through my hat because I have not ever utilized the cloud for storage. Maybe it would somehow be easier, but I don't see how. It isn't the $3./month cost; it is the extra layer of having to remember to do all the shutting off of "switches" to keep the transferring from happening when it isn't appropriate. I can see that with unlimited data, I wouldn't need to worry about that, but still . . .Even with unlimited data, I frequently turn on "Airplane Mode" when we are traveling since leaving it on, I understand, causes the phone to search for cell towers as we move along, which runs down the battery. I carry two battery gizmos that will replenish the phone's battery at will, but have never had to use them. You know - belt and suspenders! There is even a third option in the battery jumper gizmo that we carry.It has been my practice to always acquire the highest capacity memory and storage in any electronic device because that usually means a longer viable life with the least amount of hassle for storage. Even my mid-2010 MacBook Pro (500 GB drive) has 113 GB free on it, and I am really not careful at all in what I save - and I have been saving things on my computer since 1986, when I went to work at Apple. The incremental cost to acquire the highest capacity offered is usually a concern at purchase time, but it (to my mind) definitely saves a lot of hassle as the years roll by.I do admit to some apprehension in waiting for today's Apple presentation wherein I will hopefully be mightily tempted to spring for a new MacBook Pro and an iPad Pro 9.7 to replace my current MacBook Pro and iPad 2. It is mostly the speed and performance that I am after, though, rather than yet even more storage space, although it will definitely be welcomed. The current iPad 2 is about as old as will function, but function it does - and there is plenty of free space on its 64GB drive - about a quarter of its capacity is unused. But when I get a new one, this one will become our "reader", and will hold more books than our local library, no doubt. Virtual hugs, Judie < -- tapping my foot, waiting for the big announcements•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•Quote from: paul banbury - September 07, 2016, 11:04:04 amJudie, i am no professional, but I always go to cellular settings and turn off the use of cellular data for applications, including camera and photos, that I don't want to use my limited data when I am running low. I then let all that photo backing up, and everything else occur when I find a decent wifi connection. Of course that means I am "at risk" of losing photos taken on my phone in between. When I use my camera the backup work flow is completely different, and more paranoid, involving the usual laptop drive, duplicate remote hard drives, SD cards and off site storage. Why use the cloud at all? Convenience is the only reason. I can access a low resolution version of all the photos I have taken in the digital age on my phone, laptop or iPad, and load up the full res version on demand from the cloud. Since I travel sans laptop this works out well. Cost for this is $2.99 per month, on iCloud. I wonder how much this will matter or even work when I sit with my family to look at memories in 30 years like I do now with my mother?
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #23 – September 07, 2016, 02:40:13 pm You are indeed in good shape on this topic. My solution is a differential approach, demonstrating that there is always more than one way to skin the cat. When I convinced my wife to rely on iCloud, my support tasks diminished to minimal. I only have to remind her to plug into the USB 12v port when we drive, or go to bed. I back up with Time Machine when we get home, about 2x per year, and do a full disk image 1x a year. We only switch off cellular when overseas, because our Apple Watches need to be linked to get all that joy. I'm with you on buying the biggest storage possible. Now back to the Apple event! 256gb, should work! 1 Likes
Re: iPhone Storage Freedom Reply #24 – September 07, 2016, 03:33:51 pm "Cost for this is $2.99 per month, on iCloud. ". That gets you 200GIf 50G works for your needs, that's only $0.99/month.Between our free 5G on iCloud and our free 15G at Google, we have all the cloud storage required for our modest needs.Plus on Google you get unlimited, free, photo storage.Google Photos - All your photos organized and easy to findEd 1 Likes
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