LevelMatePro August 27, 2016, 02:36:33 pm There is a recent You Tube video by the RV Geeks on the LevelMatePro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh_5Nwu9T8E. On our MB we level with Lynx leveler blocks. The LevelMatePro looks like it would simplify the leveling process. Does anyone have any experience with the LevelMatePro and/or have a suggestion on where to mount the LevelMatePro unit in a MB?Paul H. 2 Likes
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #1 – August 27, 2016, 05:09:18 pm That is very cool! I'm wondering if it could be mounted in the cab to make it more convenient to the driver?
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #2 – August 27, 2016, 07:57:00 pm Quote from: HiLola - August 27, 2016, 05:09:18 pmThat is very cool! I'm wondering if it could be mounted in the cab to make it more convenient to the driver?Why would you need it convenient to the driver. There is nothing on it to read or adjust. Hide and forget.
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #3 – August 27, 2016, 08:00:34 pm Quote from: paul373 - August 27, 2016, 02:36:33 pmThere is a recent You Tube video by the RV Geeks on the LevelMatePro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh_5Nwu9T8E. On our MB we level with Lynx leveler blocks. The LevelMatePro looks like it would simplify the leveling process. Does anyone have any experience with the LevelMatePro and/or have a suggestion on where to mount the LevelMatePro unit in a MB?Paul H.Mount it anywhere you want it makes no difference, it is self calibrating..I just use a level app on my phone and lay it on the floor beside me.. How to Use the iPhone Compass and Level - dummies
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #4 – August 27, 2016, 09:33:45 pm Quote from: Garry Foster - August 27, 2016, 07:57:00 pmWhy would you need it convenient to the driver. There is nothing on it to read or adjust. Hide and forget.My bad. When I wrote this, I was thinking you had to read the numbers on the unit itself, forgetting that you read the smartphone app. This is coming from a person who doesn't own a smartphone so . . . 2 Likes
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #6 – August 28, 2016, 12:13:03 am This is a useful device if you pull a travel trailer or a 5th wheel but it just seems like an extra thing to fail when few dollars worth of stick-on bubble levels, from Camping World, do the same task, need no batteries and are just about fail-safe when properly installed.In our LD, one level is mounted on the dash, to right of the steering column, the other on the driver's door, above the power window switches. Both are visible from the driver's seat. With experience you learn to read the levels and approximate the amount of blocks needed and where to place them. 90% of there time, leveling takes only a couple of minutes, usually faster than most automatic levelers.Before sticking the bubble levels on the door and dash, level the rig so the refrigerator is spot on. LevelsHopkins Graduated RV Levels - Stick-on - Qty 2 Hopkins Tools HM08525The LevelMate is a very accurate level, probably more than what is needed to be comfortable, in a RV and a little too high-tech for what should be a simple task.It would interesting to compare it to an iPhone level app. The app seems to work fairly well. Build a leveled dash mount for your smart phone and use its sensors, along with a level app. It would be a cheap experiment.Larry 1 Likes
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #7 – August 28, 2016, 01:31:19 am I have one of these mounted on the dog house near the cup holders. A quick glance as I'm parking is all it takes.Fail proof. Fool proof. Cheap.Small level 1 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #8 – August 28, 2016, 09:26:49 am I place my levels exactly as Larry has described. Ed's tool is slick too. I then use the level built into the compass app on my iPhone placed directly under the fridge which is back near the kitchen in the RK to make sure there isn't something screwy going on near the back of the rig. If 2* or less shows on the level I'm done. If not, a few Lynx Levelers are in order.I started with one pack of LL and am now up to three. I see no need to go beyond 30 leveling blocks. I can only recall needing all or nearly all of three packs once but I was glad to have them.
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #9 – August 28, 2016, 10:51:50 am Quote from: Ed D. - August 28, 2016, 01:31:19 amI have one of these mounted on the dog house near the cup holders. A quick glance as I'm parking is all it takes.Fail proof. Fool proof. Cheap.Small levelThe Lazy Bones team uses this method also but the new tech way looks cool too! 😎Cynthia As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #10 – August 28, 2016, 11:48:32 am We have learned to triangulate a series of leveling systems to ensure optimum results:1) when we look out the windows, do we see horizon, or are we looking at all sky or all earth2) when we open the door does it seem to open smoothly and easily3) when we get out are we surprised by the slope of the land4) does it look levelOnce all those systems are nominal we move to fine tuning with Lynx Levelers (which, IMHO are completely misnamed, they don't level the rig without a lot of help from yours truly!) 5) does the bathroom door swing open or closed, or does it pretty much stay where you put it6) do those darn cheap plastic stick on levels someone put on the dashboard and drivers door say level7) does my 12" machinist's level concur, when layers on both axis, in at least two locations 8- can I get the darn iPhone bullseye level app to work. Note: step 8 is usually accompanied by someone glaring at me, exhaling strongly, and eventually going for a walk. She doesn't appreciate tech. 3 Likes
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #11 – August 28, 2016, 03:58:05 pm Quote from: Lazy Bones 2 - August 28, 2016, 10:51:50 amThe Lazy Bones team uses this method also but the new tech way looks cool too! 😎Cynthia Any leveling scheme, or product, that comes with an instruction manual is too complex for me.I like simple stuff.Ed 2 Likes
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #12 – August 28, 2016, 10:34:59 pm Retail is $139.99. I want one! Was thrilled to see that it works with leveling blocks too. (The little bubble on our dash is too hard to see.)
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #13 – August 29, 2016, 12:55:17 pm Quote from: paul banbury - August 28, 2016, 11:48:32 amWe have learned to triangulate a series of leveling systems to ensure optimum results:1) when we look out the windows, do we see horizon, or are we looking at all sky or all earth2) when we open the door does it seem to open smoothly and easily3) when we get out are we surprised by the slope of the land4) does it look levelOnce all those systems are nominal we move to fine tuning with Lynx Levelers (which, IMHO are completely misnamed, they don't level the rig without a lot of help from yours truly!) 5) does the bathroom door swing open or closed, or does it pretty much stay where you put it6) do those darn cheap plastic stick on levels someone put on the dashboard and drivers door say level7) does my 12" machinist's level concur, when layers on both axis, in at least two locations 8- can I get the darn iPhone bullseye level app to work. Note: step 8 is usually accompanied by someone glaring at me, exhaling strongly, and eventually going for a walk. She doesn't appreciate tech.I would guess, Paul, that you would need a nap after going through all these maneuvers.Chris
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #14 – August 29, 2016, 01:14:44 pm I am not at all familiar with the LevelMatePro, but the steps Paul goes through . . . well, yeah! We have defined two places (one for front to back, and the other for side to side) in the rig that match up with the freezer floor, and use a good-sized carpenter's level ad hoc in each of the places to determine levelness at each stopover. The bathroom door is a particularly useful tool. ;->I haven't tried my iPhone's leveling app in use yet, but have it at the ready.Virtual hugs,JudieAdventures of Dorrie Anne | Photographing the WestToday: One-inch HopperQuoteI would guess, Paul, that you would need a nap after going through all these maneuvers. Chris 1 Likes
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #15 – August 29, 2016, 02:16:23 pm I want one! Unfortunately I don't need one. Hubby doesn't like the price. What appeals to me is that it tells you exactly how many inches you need to raise each wheel. No trial and error with the blocks! Maybe I'm slow but after RVing for 35 years I still don't always get it right the first time!I loved the driving around the parking lot looking for the "best" spot!
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #16 – August 29, 2016, 02:44:19 pm I have struggled a bit with leveling over the years and have finally adopted a fairly simple system. First, nobody has mentioned what to me is the most important spot to level, which is the stove top. I want level pans when I'm cooking. So I keep a small, foot long, carpenters level in the implement drawer and put it on the stove top to check how level that surface is. Going forward and backward, side to side, and on the diagonal is enough to give me a fairly accurate picture of which corner(s) need adjustment. Second, using Lynx Levelers I adjust appropriately and usually get it right based on experience on the first or second try. Also worth mentioning is the guidance in the owners manual that recommends putting levelers under both sets of tires in the rear. For that reason, I carry four sets of 10 LLs in the left rear upper compartment.
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #17 – August 29, 2016, 03:41:35 pm Chris, I always need a nap. But rarely indulge. That is why I am cranky.
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #18 – August 29, 2016, 06:03:04 pm Maybe blocks are the best way to level...From a post today on irv2 I quote...We Have a 2014 SOB 1. Just got back from a trip out west and had the jacks extend down while on the road (I80). Had 3 quick beeps from the jack panel and then heard metal scrapping the road. Was able to quickly get the unit off the road to berm. By the time I got out the door, all the wheels were 4 inches off ground. This was in a heavy rain storm. The retract jacks button did no good. Able to do the emergency retract process to get jacks back up.Short term fix was remove power wire to motor until needed.SOB is at the dealers now to try to figure out.One mile before this happened, just came thru a tunnel - could have been VERY bad.__________________
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #19 – August 29, 2016, 06:19:25 pm Yikes!I love my leveling blocks. I made 'em , they're there when I need 'em and if I get cold, I can throw 'em on the fire.Now that's one way to recycle.Kent
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #20 – August 29, 2016, 06:23:03 pm I don't have the ref. owners manual handy but it says something to the effect that if you're comfortable walking around, the ref. is happy.I always thought getting the absolute perfect level was a guy sort of thing. Now it's clear that this affliction is not gender specific. Ed 1 Likes
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #21 – August 29, 2016, 06:24:39 pm Quote from: Kent Heckethorn - August 29, 2016, 06:19:25 pmYikes!I love my leveling blocks. I made 'em , they're there when I need 'em and if I get cold, I can throw 'em on the fire.Now that's one way to recycle.KentMine came from the dumpster when a new house was being built down the street. A similar brand to yours.Ed
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #22 – August 29, 2016, 07:20:42 pm I've read threw the threads on automatic levelers vs blocks. On our '99, we happily level with blocks which is fast and easy. Any rocking is minimal, although stabalizing the coach would be one reason to get them. Our coach is too old for such consideration, but we'll need to cross that bridge eventually when we buy a new RV. As I immerse myself in IRV2, I note slides and hydraulic levelers as the 2 systems most often mentioned in connection with various troubles. Both can extend while in motion! Terrifying (to me).
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #23 – August 29, 2016, 10:46:06 pm Quote from: Todd - August 29, 2016, 07:20:42 pmI've read threw the threads on automatic levelers vs blocks. On our '99, we happily level with blocks which is fast and easy. Any rocking is minimal, although stabalizing the coach would be one reason to get them. Our coach is too old for such consideration, but we'll need to cross that bridge eventually when we buy a new RV. As I immerse myself in IRV2, I note slides and hydraulic levelers as the 2 systems most often mentioned in connection with various troubles. Both can extend while in motion! Terrifying (to me).It would appear, Todd, that the more you read IRV2 the closer you are to ordering a new Lazy Daze Chris 4 Likes
Re: LevelMatePro Reply #24 – August 30, 2016, 09:52:35 pm Ed D & Kent--My dad had the same brand ya'll mention with his Pace Arrow in the '90s (Mother sold it & the levelers shortly after he died Xmas '96, because women can't operate things like that...something about the Y chromosome ). Mother grew up on a farm close to the Iowa line & ran a tractor with her dad during WWII ("...there weren't any hired men to be had."), but for some reason she thought the XX chromosome combination had many limitations (she was never into Helen Reddy).I have loved every minute of spending daddy's money on LDy Lulubelle (despite the current gremlin infestation), and despite the the weight/CCC issue, I love sitting inside when it's wet/snowy/generally ucky & putting her BigFeet down. I've got Dad's carpenter's level that I can use on the front or bedside tables, & my own little torpedo level that I can put on the stove or on the wall thermostat next to the fridge). I've been accused many times through the years of being at least a half-bubble off , so this is one time I get it right. 2 Likes
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