How many quarts? June 03, 2016, 12:14:27 pm I'm out running errands. How many quarts for the Ford V10? I have the viscosity in my notes in the road trip app but never added the amount.
Re: How many quarts? Reply #1 – June 03, 2016, 01:16:32 pm Per the Ford manual (you don't have a manual?), 6 quarts of 5W-20. I've stuck with the Ford-recommended fluids and parts and have used Motorcraft Syn-blend and the Motorcraft oil filter for 95k miles. (I use the dino-blend because I change the oil and filter about every 3k miles.) Others use different brands of oil, either a blend or a full synthetic; Mobil 1 seems to be very popular. As ever, YMMV.
Re: How many quarts? Reply #2 – June 03, 2016, 01:20:25 pm With filter change I used 6 quarts total.Good Luck,
Re: How many quarts? Reply #3 – June 03, 2016, 01:29:18 pm Thanks. I have the manual - at home. My errands took me near AutoZone so I figured I would pickup oil. I put the quantity next to the oil type (entered when just after I got the "Road Trip" app).
Re: How many quarts? Reply #4 – June 03, 2016, 01:36:11 pm If you're near a Walmart (!), their prices on oil and the Motorcraft oil filter (FL-820-S) are usually quite a bit less than the "car store". I get the 5-quart jug (cheaper than buying by the quart) and a 1-quart container. 2 Likes
Re: How many quarts? Reply #5 – June 03, 2016, 02:19:40 pm And carry an extra quart in the rig.Larry 1 Likes
Re: How many quarts? Reply #6 – June 03, 2016, 04:24:00 pm Quote from: Larry Wade - June 03, 2016, 02:19:40 pmAnd carry an extra quart in the rig.LarryAlways! 😜 I also carry "top-off" fluids, including a tightly-capped quart jar of pre-mixed (50/50) gold coolant and distilled water. Just precautionary...
Re: How many quarts? Reply #7 – June 03, 2016, 05:04:49 pm Just had the oil changed in the LD and went with the Ford Synthetic. Ford rep told me that the synthetic oil sticks to the metal parts being lubricated better than standard oil. He cautioned me that going synthetic can be a bad decision for some because they believe that synthetic will allow them to go 10,000 miles without an oil change. I never go much past 3,000 miles between changes in any of my vehicles.He also mentioned that synthetic keeps the engine running cooler and can improve gas mileage. If this is true, I am pleased to pay the few extra bucks for the upgrade.Another thing he mentioned was that it is not unusual for the E450 to burn a quart every 1,000 miles though it may not. He warned against driving more than a 1,000 miles without checking the oil. Prolonged travel without checking the oil could mean you are dangerously low on oil. Not a good thing.I, too, carry extra fluids to top off things when needed. The list of must carry's is significant. Keep track of all my stuff in my notebook app on the iPhone. Pretty handy and easy to add stuff to the "must have" list as they pop up.Prepping for the next trip.Kent
Re: How many quarts? Reply #8 – June 03, 2016, 05:31:18 pm it takes seven. six is for a smaller engine .
Re: How many quarts? Reply #9 – June 03, 2016, 05:49:38 pm Quote from: flyfish30738 - June 03, 2016, 05:31:18 pmit takes seven. six is for a smaller engine . I don't know which 'smaller engine' you have in mind, but the manual spec for the V10 is 6 qts.Steve 1 Likes
Re: How many quarts? Reply #10 – June 03, 2016, 05:51:40 pm Quote from: flyfish30738 - June 03, 2016, 05:31:18 pmit takes seven. six is for a smaller engine .From 2014 E-Series Owner's Manual page 273 "Six (6) qt"
Re: How many quarts? Reply #11 – June 03, 2016, 06:06:53 pm "...it is not unusual for the E450 to burn a quart every 1,000 miles though it may not. He warned against driving more than a 1,000 miles without checking the oil."----Checking the (cold) oil level frequently is certainly good advice, but if my 2003 burned through a quart of oil every 1000 miles, it would be in the shop for a thorough diagnostic procedure! At 95k, it uses a little oil, 1/3-1/2 quart at most, between change intervals of 3000+ miles. The engine gurus on this board will speak to this, but I can't think that burning through a quart of oil every 1000 miles is a "normal operation" indicator!
Re: How many quarts? Reply #12 – June 03, 2016, 06:32:16 pm My 2006 does not need oil added between oil changes. I change oil every 5000 miles. Best deal in Denver ls Freeway Ford. Ten oil changes for $175 with semi synergic bulk oil. Price includes filter.Paul
Re: How many quarts? Reply #13 – June 03, 2016, 06:39:27 pm My LD ventures are, so far, less than 500 miles one way. I check my oil level before the drive and again prior to the return trip. With a little less than 3500 miles on my LD, I have not noticed a drop in the oil level.The Ford tech did say that it "can" burn up to a quart in a 1000 miles, but it may not. I think his comment was a precautionary one to help prevent a catastrophe. I appreciated his acknowledgement of an issue that may present itself.On a similar note, my sister has a Suburu Breeze (I think that's the model) and she does burn through a quart on regular intervals. All the "pros" she spoke to said that is normal. I was shocked and said that she should have gotten a Toyota. Anyway, I'm still curious as to validity to the claim of improved gas mileage. I'll know for sure on my next trip to Zion.Kent 1 Likes
Re: How many quarts? Reply #14 – June 04, 2016, 10:46:37 am Almost any dealership will tell you that a car can burn up to a qt every thousand miles. When using our 07 MB to visit family in FL the first leg is about 680 miles running mostly 55-65 mph. That is about the most I have ever done in a day, but I have done that several times. I too have never seen any oil consumption. When I do a oil change the amount coming out is about equal to what goes in. I always have a qt or two in storage. Just a habit from owning a Austin Healey 3000, that was a mosquito killer (oil smoke).
Re: How many quarts? Reply #15 – June 04, 2016, 01:01:32 pm Well I had a new 88 Ford Ranger that used a quart every 800 miles and Ford claimed that was in normal range. Never got better but never got much worse..Had a union rep that bought a new Ford around 1980 and it also burned a quart every 800 or so miles and Ford refused to do anything,. So I think they say it to cover themselves but it sure isn't usual.
Re: How many quarts? Reply #16 – June 04, 2016, 01:31:15 pm Quote from: John DaCrema - June 04, 2016, 10:46:37 amAlmost any dealership will tell you that a car can burn up to a qt every thousand miles. With many brands, 750 miles per quart is considered "normal". It reduces warranty work, good for Ford's bottom line.This has become an issue for some owners of newer V10s. Oil burning has occurred due to defective valve oil seals and has resulted in two know engines removed for new seals. I'm sure it has been corrected by now, due to the huge cost to replace $10 worth of seals.As for conventional vs. synthetics, our V-10s came with Ford's semi-synthetic oil and it is perfectly adequate as long as recommended change intervals are observed. If you use synthetics, realize the true benefit is longer change intervals.If you insist on the 3000 miles severe duty change intervals, save your money and use Ford semi-synthetic 5-20-wt oil or equivalent.Many new engines require synthetics due to tighter machining, very high power outputs and the use of turbo chargers (which DO need synthetics, to keep the oil from burning and turning into coke). Use what the owner's manual recommends.Synthetics were originally developed to cope with the extremely high temperatures of jet turbine engine bearings where traditional oils would burn. FYI, about 15 years ago, when I was still employed, we ran an extensive testing on synthetics vs. conventional oil, in the fleet at LAX.The test vehicles were given periodic oil analysis in an attempt to determine how long oils remain in good condition, as the miles increased. Testing showed that conventional oils were still in good shape at 7500 miles, including vehicles that idled for hours on end (such as maintenance vehicles used on runways and taxiways). This group included a lot of V-10 trucks, which were common years ago, Interesting to have an engine that was obsolete ten years ago still in production. Better engine sealing and fuel injection have had a very positive effect on oil life, due to the lack of excess fuel washing into the oil, especially when idling. Previously, carburated engines needed much more frequent oil changes.The oil testing showed synthetics were still going strong at 12,000 miles. A fleet-wide 7,500 change interval was adopted since we wanted to give each vehicle at bumper to bumper inspection at that mileage, 12,000 miles was considered to be too long an interval, without inspection.I ran my 1997 Dodge Dakota on Mobil 1 and used a 12,000 miles change interval for the first 100,000 miles. Oi analysis was used to check the condition of the oil. I sold the Dakota to a friend, who has continued using synthetic. It now has over 250,000 miles on the original engine. Guess the stuff works.Larry 2 Likes
Re: How many quarts? Reply #17 – June 04, 2016, 01:34:57 pm Quote from: Garry Foster - June 04, 2016, 01:01:32 pmWell I had a new 88 Ford Ranger that used a quart every 800 miles and Ford claimed that was in normal range. Never got better but never got much worse..In college, I drove delivery for a blue-print company and had a new Ford Pinto, with the 2-liter 4-cylinder. It burned oil from day one, about 1-qt per 500 miles. After six months of fighting with Ford, new valve guide seals were installed that somewhat reduced the burning. It wasn't much of a car.Larry
Re: How many quarts? Reply #18 – June 04, 2016, 03:22:30 pm Larry, a question regarding the 12,000 mile change interval you used on your truck. Was that 12,000 miles regardless of months or do you think months matter when using synthetic?Jim
Re: How many quarts? Reply #19 – June 04, 2016, 05:34:49 pm somewhere in this e-series 2005 owners guide it say's seven quarts for the 6.8 liter v10. 5.4 liter v8 takes 6qts. I had been changing my own oil for ten years and putting in 6 qts. until a mechanic pointed this out to me. apparently doesn't hurt it running six qts. The mechanic said you have to account for the oil filter. i also found this info on the just answer.ford site or just answer .com
Re: How many quarts? Reply #20 – June 04, 2016, 06:32:50 pm Below is a link to the Ford-recommended maintenance intervals/services; drill through the options (year, model, # of cylinders, type of use) to locate the desired vehicle type. For a 2005 E-450, the first item on the list (under: MEMO) may be of interest:Maintenance Schedules | fleet.ford.com
Re: How many quarts? Reply #22 – June 05, 2016, 10:14:03 am For those that have a problem converting km to mileskm to miles - kilometers conversion[1] 1 1KM = .6213 Mile ↵
Re: How many quarts? Reply #23 – June 05, 2016, 11:08:05 am Quote from: flyfish30738 - June 04, 2016, 05:34:49 pmsomewhere in this e-series 2005 owners guide it say's seven quarts for the 6.8 liter v10. 5.4 liter v8 takes 6qts. I had been changing my own oil for ten years and putting in 6 qts. until a mechanic pointed this out to me. apparently doesn't hurt it running six qts. The mechanic said you have to account for the oil filter. i also found this info on the just answer.ford site or just answer .comPerhaps you could post verbatim what you found and where. When I do an oil and filter change with 6 qts, run the engine briefly to circulate, then check the dipstick after a few minutes - the level is full. An extra quart could cause problems.Steve
Re: How many quarts? Reply #24 – June 05, 2016, 02:05:19 pm Overfilling the engine oil is will cause the oil to become aerated and frothy; the crankshaft whips the oil into overheated "foam". Frothy, overheated oil is unable to "stick" to lubricate the moving parts; the oil pressure drops and the engine may seize. (Too much oil is as bad as [way] too little; neither sludge nor foam is an effective engine lubricant.)Oil levels (like tire pressures) should be checked when the engine is cold; a "hot read" will provide inaccurate oil level information.
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